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[1.Joint Board Meeting: HSE Schools & City of Fishers]

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>> OPENING THIS MEETING, FISHERS OF CITY COUNCIL AND HSE SCHOOL BOARD.

PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> I WILL NOW OPEN THE MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

CONFIRMING WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ANY MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY AGAIN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP AND SPEAK WITHIN THE TIME FRAME ALLOTTED MOVING ONTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER

[3.Mayor Fadness]

3. PRESENTATION BY MAYOR. >> YOU CALLED FOR PUBLIC COMPLEMENTS WHICH WOULD BE A WAY BETTER TERM OF EVENTS THAN PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> RIGHT. >> FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH CITY COUNCIL AND OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM AND DEPARTMENT HEADS.

WE'VE DONE THIS FOR THE MOST PART EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR SEEMS LIKE OUR RELATIONSHIP GROWS IN-DEPTH AND VARIETY AND I THINK TONIGHT WILL BE ANOTHER EVOLUTION OF THAT AND WE ARE EXCITED AND BEFORE WE GET TO SOME OF THE MORE SPECIFIC AND FORMAL AGENDA ITEMS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO TONIGHT SHARE WITH YOU AN UPDATE FROM OUR TEAM ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION ON BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS HAPPENING.

I'M NOT SURE WE ARE ALWAYS AWARE OF THINGS WE ARE WORKING BACK AND FORTH ON.

FIRST AND FOREMOST TO SET THE STAGE FOR THIS, I TOUCHED IN MY STATE OF THE CITY THAT WE WERE IN PROCESS OF A FORMAL COMMUNITY SURVEY TO UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND PRECISION OF LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE RECEIVING AND THOSE RESULTS ARE NOW IN AND WE HAD INCREDIBLE TURNOUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS AND SOME OF THOSE RESULTS KIND OF TOUCH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALBRIGHT, PR DIRECTOR TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

HERE IS THE SLIDE. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, ASHLEY ALROD FOR THE RECORD. CONDUCTED A SURVEY, SURVEY GROUP.

WE HAD NEARLY 3,000 RESIDENTS TO COMPLETE THAT AND VERY EXCITED ABOUT THOSE OF LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT THAT FISHERS RESIDENTS ARE OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY IS GOING AND SO WE DID PROVIDE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE SCHOOLS AS WELL.

WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? WHEN YOU ARE -- WHEN YOU HAVE A HAPPY RESIDENT BASE THEY HAVE EXPECTATIONS. WITH THAT LEVEL OF SATISFACTION, OUR RESIDENTS ARE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD INVESTMENTS AND EXPERIENCE CONNECTIVITY, LIFESTYLE AND AMENITIES AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WHILE MOST OF THESE TYPES OF INVESTMENTS, AGENCIES, SCHOOLS, COLLABORATIONS WE CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT AND SO WHAT'S EXCITING WITH MAYOR SHARED 90% OF THE RESIDENTS WILL RECOMMEND HSE SCHOOLS SOMEONE WHO ASKS AND 92% OF RESIDENTS RECOMMEND LIVING IN FISHERS IF ANYBODY WHO ASKED. ANYBODY IN PERFECT COMMUNICATIONS OR PERFECT MARKETING WOULD PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO GET THAT KIND OF SCORE AND EXCITED ABOUT AND REALLY HELPS TO UNDERSCORE THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING AND IT'S REALLY PAYING OFF IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SPEAKING OF SOME OF OUR COLLABORATIONS, I'M ALSO GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING. FIRST STARTING WITH THE COMMUNITY-BASE LEARNING.

WE HAVE BEEN A PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOLS ON COMMUNITY-BASE LEARNING SINCE OUR NATURE FIRST PROGRAM ROLLED OUT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. IT IS AN AWARD-WINNING FIRST GRADE EXPERIENCIAL LEARNING PROGRAM THAT THOUSANDS OF FIRST GRADERS COME THROUGH NATURE PRESERVE. ONLY NATURE PRESERVE TO EXPERIENCE HANDS ON LEARNING IN BIOLOGY IN FIRST GRADE AND -- AND THE NATURAL SCIENCES. BUT TO DATE SINCE 2018 WE HAVE FOCUSED ON BRINGING OUT EXPERIENCES THAT INCLUDE SECOND GRADE AND BRINGS ALL SECOND GRADERS TO AG PARK TO LEARN MORE ABOUT PLANTING HOW THE ENVIRONMENT IMPACTS RESOURCES

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AND RESIDENTS OUT THERE THAT BRING TO LIFE. THIRD GRADERS COME TO CITY HALL WITH WHOLE EXPERIENCE AND THIS YEAR WITH AN EXPANDED EXPERIENCE IN THE SPRING WHERE THEY GET TO MAKE A CITY COME TO LIFE, SO CITY PLANNERS MAKING SURE RESIDENTIAL AREAS HAVE PARKS AND WALKABILITY AND IT'S A PRETTY FUN EXPERIENCE TO SEE THIRD GRADERS REALLY THINK ABOUT IF YOU SHOULD PUT A MANUFACTURING FACILITY NEXT TO A SCHOOL. NEXT OUR FOURTH GRADE EXPERIENCE, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2018 WITH CONNOR PRIORY, NOTI ALSO BRING IN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY INTO THAT EXPERIENCE AS WELL AND THEN FIFTH GRADERS WITH OUR MAKER PLAYGROUND, THEY LEARN ABOUT ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND BRINGING ALL OF THAT TO THE CLASSROOM.

SO OVERALL, THE -- THE CITY AND THE SCHOOLS ARE ENRICHING THESE STUDENTS ALMOST OVER 8300 STUDENTS ANNUALLY AND THE NEWEST PROGRAM OUR KINDERGARTNERS THIS YEAR PILOTING OUR ARTS FOCUSED EXPERIENCIAL LEARNING, IGNITE SPACE AND THE LIGHT CENTER AT CITY HALL AND IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE KINDERGARTNER COME DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY DOWNTOWN AND EXPERIENCE.

THAT IS IT ON THAT. AND NEXT, MY TEAM SPECIFICALLY COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE CITY HAS BEEN A COLLABORATING RECENTLY WITH AGENCY HIGH SCHOOL, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE LEVERAGING NEEDS TO HAVE THE STUDENTS STORY CREATE STORY TELLING AND REPORT ON NEWS THAT'S HAPPENING BOTH IN THE SCHOOLS, THE CITY CAN SHARE WITH OUR AUDIENCES AS WELL AS HELP US HAVE SOME BOOTS ON THE GROUND AT SOME OF OUR KEY NEWS MAKING EVENTS.

SO THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM BEHIND WITH THE SCENING AT THE FISHERS EVENT CENTER TO JUST HELPING US CREATE CONTENT TO PARKS AND THING LIKE THAT. SO IT'S A REALLY GREAT EXCITING HANDS-ON INTERNSHIP THAT WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE THE STUDENTS THAT ARE -- THAT ARE RUNNING THE HSE PROGRAM THERE AND IT'S BEEN REALLY, REALLY GREAT. SO THAT IS IT ON MY END.

>> THANKS, ASHLEY. ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE HERE WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE COMMUNITY-BASE LEARNING PROGRAMS THE KINDERGARTEN ART PROGRAM THE CITY OF FISHERS IS FUNDING THAT PROGRAM. WE FUNDED THE START OF THE PARK PROGRAM FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS. PART OF OUR FULL-TIME STAFF AT THE MAKER SPACE IS SPENT PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO THE -- THE KIDS.

OUR THIRD-GRADE PROGRAM IS DONE EXCLUSIVELY BY OUR STAFF AND OUR VOLUNTEERS SO WE HAVE A FULL-TIME PERSON WHO SPENDS ABOUT 40% OF HER TIME DOING THAT WORK AS WELL AS OUR LEADERSHIP AN OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT LITERALLY ROSS, PLANNING DIRECTOR IN THE MEETING WITH THE THIRD GRADERS WORKING ON CITY PLANNING ALONG WITH HIS STAFF. NOT ONLY IS THIS A COMMITMENT, HEY, COME USE ASSETS TO THE CITY, WE ARE DEDICATING EVERY YEAR REAL DOLLARS TO BE A PARTNER IN THE EDUCATION OF OUR KIDS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT TIME AND TIME AGAIN AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND PROBABLY NO GREATER EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE NEXT PROGRAM THAT WILL HAVE JORDAN ALEXANDER CHIEF OF STAFF TALK ABOUT WHICH IS OUR INNOVATION GRANTS. JORDAN.

SO, YEAH, WE LAUNCHED THIS INNOVATION GRANT PROGRAM BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2024, SO COMING UP ON TWO YEARS NOW. AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE TIME WE SAID REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM WAS TO PROVIDE EDUCATORS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING INNOVATIVE CURRICULUM INTO THE CLASSROOMS, SO TO DATE, WE HAVE AWARDED JUST UNDER $385,000 THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.

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THAT INCLUDES -- LET ME GET MY SLIDES GOING. THAT INCLUDES 24 GRANTS IN ALL, WE HAVE HIT ALL GRADE LEVELS NOW SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING POINT AND THEN THAT'S ACROSS 13 DIFFERENT SCHOOLS WITHIN THE DISTRICT AS WELL.

SO JUST TO SPEAK TO SOME OF THE REACH OF THOSE PROGRAMS. AND ON THE ONE PAGE I HAVE PROVIDED YOU, COUNCIL ALREADY GOT THIS IN OCTOBER AND I HAVE A COPY FOR YOU GUYS AS WELL.

WE TALKED ABOUT TOP AWARD CATEGORIES SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THESE.

THE FIRST ONE BEING VIRTUAL REALITY. SO WE AWARDED OVER $125,000 IN VIRTUAL REALITY RELATED CURRICULUM SO THAT INCLUDED EVERYTHING FROM A WELDING SIMULATION PILOT PROGRAM HSE, WE AWARDED 2 PROJECTS BOTH HSE AND FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL AROUND VIRTUAL REALITY TO SUPPORT OUR ENGLISHES IS A SECOND LANGUAGE STUDENTS AS WELL AND THEN ALSO DID ANOTHER PILOT PROGRAM BETWEEN HSE AND HIGH SCHOOLS IN CAREER EXPLORATION AS WELL.

A LOT OF TRACTION AND INTEREST IN THAT SPACE. STEM AS WELL UNSURPRISINGLY WAS AN AREA OF INTEREST FOR APPLICANTS. WE AWARDED 10 STEM-BASE PROJECTS SINCE THE START OF THIS GRANT PROGRAM WHICH INCLUDES 5 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND ALL THREE INTERMEDIARY SCHOOLS WERE AWARD STEM PROJECTS AS WELL. SO I THINK THAT REALLY POINTS TO EDUCATORS WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, CREATE SOME OF THE ENTRY POINTS EARLY ON IN THE LOWER GRADE LEVELS TO REALLY ALLOW STUDENTS TO KIND OF PROGRESS AS THEY GO INTO JUNIOR HIGH AND HIGH SCHOOL WITHIN STEM. AND THEN THE LAST ONE I JUST WANTED TO NOTE MEDIAN FILM GRAPHY, WE AWARDED UNDER $75,000 THESE ARE BOTH HSE HIGH SCHOOL BUT TO AWARD ONE TO FISHER HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AROUND THEIR MEDIA PROGRAM AND ONE OF THE PROGRAMS AT HSE WAS ACTUALLY BY JAMIE FALLACE, A SHORT FILM PROGRAM FOR STUDENTS AND I THINK THAT'S JUST SPEAKS TO SOME OF THE REALLY SCHOOL CURRICULUM THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR HIGH SCHOOLS AND THEN I JUST ALSO WANTED TO NOTE REALLY THE POINT OF THIS PROGRAM WAS FOR PILOT PROJECTS, RIGHT, SO I THINK IT'S OUR GOAL AND THE COMMITTEE'S GOAL SEEN AS SUCCESSFUL AND WHAT THE OUTCOMES HAVE LOOKED LIKE BUT IF THERE IS INTEREST IN CREATING LONGER-TERM SUSTAINABILITY THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE SCHOOL -- SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO STAY IN COMMUNICATION AND GIVE YOU GUYS

THESE UPDATES BUT I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE F UPDATE FOR YOU ALL. >> THE COMMON THEME IS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DURING BUDGETING PROCESS IS CONTINUING MONEY INTO GRANT.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE PUT ANOTHER 50,000 INTO THAT FUND S WELL.

WE ARE CONTINUING TO TRY TO SUPPORT OUR EDUCATORS, OUR SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AND WHAT'S NOT INCLUDED ON HERE THE GREAT WORK THE PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING ON DAILY BASIS, SNOW REMOVAL, GROUND MAINTENANCE OR WHAT HAVE YOU TRYING TO DO THAT AT A SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED COST TO THE SCHOOLS AS WELL SO WE KEEP AS MUCH MONEY IN CLASSROOMS. NEXT UP I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MONICA, PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR OVER INITIATIVES SHE'S WORKING

ON. >> HELLO, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, CITY COUNCIL, MONICA HEALTHS FOR THE DIRECTOR. PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, SOME OF WHICH YOU PROBABLY KNOW ABOUT SOME OF WHICH YOU DON'T. WE DO HAVE A SCHOOL NURSE LIAISON IN PLACE AND THAT ALSO INCLUDES AN EDUCATOR IN PLACE SO WE ARE IN THE SCHOOLS AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS VERY, VERY FREQUENTLY. I'M GOING TO MOVE AROUND THOSE BULLETS BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP SUPPORT THE WELLNESS OF STUDENTS IN DIFFERENT LEVELS AND WORKING WITH AMY HANNAH AND HER TEAM AND GETTING FOLKS TO VACCINATION APPOINTMENTS OR WHATEVER ELSE WE CAN FACILITATE TO GET KIDS BACK INTO SCHOOL WE'RE DOING AND WE HAVE A HEALTH EDUCATOR WHO IS IN THE SCHOOLS ALMOST CONSTANTLY HITTING ALMOST EVERY GRADE LEVEL OF EVERY HEALTH TOP THAT I CAN YOU CAN THINK, CASEY, I THINK SHE AGENT EDUCATES OVER 20,000 FISHERS RESIDENTS MOST OF THEM CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOLS. WE ALSO RUN TEAM PUBLIC HEALTH ACADEMY THAT TEENS CAN APPLY FOR, HANDS-ON EXPERIMENTAL LEARNING.

ANYBODY CAN DO THAT. WE ARE RUNNING IN OUR FOURTH YEAR IN THAT PROGRAM AND HAS BEEN INCREASINGLY SUCCESSFUL AND WE GET A LOT OF STUDENTS THAT WANT TO RETURN TO THAT.

THE LAST TIME WE HAD THIS MEETING AND I STOOD UP IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS, WE ANNOUNCED A CLUB GRANT PROGRAM SO WE HAVE BEEN AWARDING GRANTS OUT OF THAT CLUB GRANT PROGRAM.

WE STILL HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT PROGRAM SO ANY SCHOOL-BASE CLUB CAN APPLY FOR A 500-DOLLAR IN

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THE INITIATIVE, SO WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CLUBS HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THOSE GRANTS AND WE HAVE AWARDED GRANTS AND WE HAVE SEEN COME TO FRUITION SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.

THAT'S PRETTY COOL. ONE OF THE THINGEST WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY HEALTH ASSESSMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF RESIDENTS, FOCUS GROUPS, ET CETERA, WAS A NEED TO FOCUS ON YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH.

MENTAL HEALTH ACROSS THE LIFE SPAN BUT SPECIFICALLY YOUTH MENTAL HEALTH.

THIS YEAR WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH A NUMBER OF PARTNERS TO TRY TO PUT IN PLACE NAVIGATOR POSITION AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN SCHOOLS TO MAKE SURE IT'S SUPPLEMENTING AND NOT REPLACING ANYTHING. BUT THE IDEA IS WHEN FAMILIES DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START, THAT WE HAVE A PERSON THAT CAN HELP THEM FIGURE THAT PART OUT. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN TALKS WITH ASPIRE, HEALTH CENTER IN OUR CLINICAL SPACE WHICH IS RIGHT AT THE FRONT OF THE FISHERS COMMUNITY CENTER SO ANYBODY COULD WALK IN AND ASK QUESTIONS, MAYBE THEY NEED AN APPOINTMENT THE SAME DAY, ALL OF THAT CAN BE FACILITATED TO ASPIRE ANY ORGANIZATION IN THE CITY.

WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT CONTRACTING RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S KIND OF NEGOTIATION, BUT OUR FRIENDS AT ASPIRE ARE VERY EAGER TO SEE THIS COME TO FRUITION SO WE DO EXPECT COMING OUT IN THE

NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. >> THANK YOU, MONICA. LAST BUT NOT AT LEAST AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE HE CARRIES A GUN I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CHIEF GAPART TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRESSION WE'VE MADE AND MAKING SURE OUR STUDENTS, TEACHERS AND SCHOOL SYSTEM IS A SAFE PLACE FOR

EDUCATION TO OCCUR. [LAUGHTER] >> I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S SLIDES ATTACHED HERE. IF NOT, I'M ABOUT TO WING IT AND THAT'LL BE YOUR PROBLEM, NOT MINE. YEAH. THERE WE GO.

PERFECT. NO. I CAN DRIVE THIS THING.

THANK YOU SCHOOL BOARD, THANK YOU MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FOR HAVING US AT GAPART CHIEF OF POLICE FOR THE RECORD. BASICALLY I WANT TO TALK SOME OF THE RELATIONSHIP BUILDING THAT'S GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE'RE COMING TO AND WHERE WE'RE HEADING. BEFORE THAT, I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THE FIRST TWO SENTENCES FOR THE MISSION TO PROTECT OUR CITY AND SECURE FUTURE OF OUR CHILDREN AND WE TAKE THAT SERIOUS AND WE TAKE IT SERIOUS THROUGH THE YEAR AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AND PARTNERSHIP TO GROW OUR SRO UNIT. BUT CURRENTLY AS OF 2026, WE HAVE 16 CURRENT STAFFING AND INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS TO PUT OFFICERS IN SCHOOLS. WE HAVE 31 POLICE CADET ACADEMIES AND TEAMS GOING THROUGH CONTINUED EDUCATION AND VOLUNTEER IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS HAND IN HAND. AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO START OUR 2013 ACADEMY SESSION. THAT'S A LOT OF TOUCH POINTS FOR THE YOUTH.

OVER TO THE NEXT SIDE YOU WILL SEE A TIMELINE THAT WE PUT FOR YOU OF THE BEGINNING OF SRO, SSO AND THE ONLY THICK THAT'S MISSING IS 2,000. I USED TO WORK AS SRO.

YOU'D WALK TO THE SCHOOLS AND GO HOME AND ONE OFFICER THAT DID THAT A WAY.

SO WE HAVE COME QUITE U A LONG WAYS AND UPDATE THIS IN FUTURE SLIDES.

GO TO THE NEXT -- I WILL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

SO IN PARTICULAR WE LOOK AT OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR YOUTH AND WE'RE BUILDING STRONG RELATIONSHIPS OVER ON THE HOME-GROWN OFFICER SIDE YOU'LL SEE THE OFFICERS IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE COME THROUGH YOUR SCHOOL DOORS INTO OUR HALLWAYS TO SERVE.

A COUPLE OF THESE CFI AND ALSO CAMERON, I THINK WE RAISED THEM PRACTICALLY.

I REMEMBER CAM AT 12 YEAR'S OLD TELLING HE WAS GOING TO BE A POLICE OFFICER AND I REMEMBER JENNA COMING IN RIGHT BEFORE HIGH SCHOOL SAYING SHE WAS GOING TO BE AN FBI AGENT AND SHE ENDED UP IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A CRIMINAL FORENSIC INVESTIGATOR FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE BOTH DOING EXCELLENT BUT I ALSO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT JUST TO BRIEFLY READ THIS TO YOU BECAUSE THIS IS THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE GOING ON EVERY DAY IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

IF IT HASN'T BEEN FOR THAT ONE SMALL CONVERSATION I WOULD NOT BE WHERE I AM NOW IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU. AN HSE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT SAID, BACK THEN SHY SKINNY KID WITH NO REAL GOALS OR PASSIONS. I HAD NO IDEA WHAT I WANTED TO DO AFTER HIGH SCHOOL.

MOST OF THE EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE HAD, THE FRIENDS I'VE MADE, THE THINGS I'VE ACHIEVED WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF NOT FOR ONE SMALL CONVERSATION WITH YOU. THIS IS SRO THAT HAD CONVERSATION WITH YOUNG MAN AND ENLISTED IN THE NATIONAL ARMY COMBAT MEDIC TO COME BACKFILL

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GOAL OF BECOMING POLICE OFFICER. IT'S EXCELLENT. EVERY DAY WE HEAR STORIES OF SRO'S INTERACTING AND OUR SRO'S ARE THE ONE THAT IS TAKE CARE OF TEEN ACADEMY ON THEIR OWN.

THEY COME OUT AND DO IN THE SUMMER TIME MAKING SURE THE YOUTH HAVE GOOD EXAMPLE AND GOOD MENTORSHIP AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE FACE THAT IS YOU'RE SEEING. I WANT TO UPDATE YOU BECAUSE I SAID 2016 BUT IN 2018 THE MAYOR AND MYSELF WERE GOING TO ADD TWO MORE TO THIS LIST. BY THE END TO HAVE YEAR WE SHOULD HAVE 18 OFFICERS IN OUR SCHOOLS TO CONTINUE THAT COMMITMENT TO SAFETY FOR OUR YOUTH AND OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT'S SOME OF THE OFFICERS THERE BEFORE YOU SO YOU

CAN BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> OKAY.

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WELL THAT WAS A BID OF A RAPID FIRE OF WHAT HAS BEEN AND WHAT CURRENTLY IS AND WHAT MIGHT BE COMING BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN MY 15 YEARS EVERY TIME WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER IT'S BETTER PAN FOR SCHOOL COMMUNITY AND THE RESULTS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND TONIGHT ANOTHER CHAPTER OF OUR RELATIONSHIP OF ACTUALLY KIND OF TWO DIFFERENT CHAPTERS TO THINK ABOUT.

THE FIRST ONE I'D LIKE TO KIND OF START WITH A BROADER CONTEXT AND TURN OVER JORDAN ALEXANDER OR CHIEF OF STAFF HAS BEEN RUNNING POINT ON THIS. BUT ONE OF THE AREAS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN FOCUSING ON RECENTLY IS ENSURING THAT WE'RE PUSHING THE ENVELOPE ON EVERY ASPECT OF QUALITY OF LIFE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND AS YOU KNOW VERY WELL RUNNING A SCHOOL SYSTEM AND I SEE IT EVERY DAY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR, FOLKS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY YOUTH ATHLETICS AND ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FISHERS - CONTINUES TO REMAIN AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN TERMS OF FACILITIES AND EXPERIENCES FOR OUR KIDOS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WAS -- LAST SUMMER I WAS IN THE SWIMMING AND THEY WERE DOING NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD SWIMMING MEETING AND I WAS THERE STANDING TALKING TO A WOMAN WHO DID NOT KNOW WHAT I DID FOR A LIVING AND WE WERE -- SHE HAD JUST MOVED TO FISHERS AND I ASKED HER, WHY DID YOU PICK FISHERS, SHE WAS CHOOSING BETWEEN TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES AND SHE TOLD ME BECAUSE OF FISHERS BECAUSE FAST SWIM PROGRAM AT HIGH SCHOOL.

NOW ONE MIGHT SAY, REALLY, YOU PICKED WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO LIVE BASED ON YOUTH ATHLETICS AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT IS AN INCREDIBLE PART OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT PEOPLE EXPECT IN OUR COMMUNITY. HOW DO WE GET BETTER AT THAT? WE ARE GOOD AT IT TODAY, WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERS LIKE MUD SOCK AND OTHERS AND HOW DO WE CREATE SOMETHING MORE IMPACTFUL TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST CATERING TO ONE ASPECT OF OUR COMMUNITY BUT TO THE WHOLE ASPECT OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND -- AND SO IN THIS LAST BUDGET YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL PUT SIGNIFICANT, HISTORIC AMOUNTS OF MONEY INTO OUR ABILITY TO UPGRADE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE TUNE OF AROUND $10 MILLION OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT INTO YOUTH ATHLETICS.

NOW, WE COULD GO DO THAT ON OUR OWN AND JUST LOOK AT OUR CITY PARKS AND I THINK WE COULD DO INCREMENTALLY BETTER THAN WE ARE TODAY, BUT IF YOU START TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS AS A COLLECTIVE PROGRAM THAT THESE ASSETS THAT THE TAXPAYERS PAY FOR WHETHER IT'S A SCHOOL PARK OR, EXCUSE ME, A SCHOOL FIELD, CITI FIELD, IF WE LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE SYSTEM, THEN WE SHOULD REALLY BE MAKING THOSE INVESTMENTS HOLISTICALLY INTO THE SYSTEM.

AND SO TODAY WE WANT TO TAKE A BIG STEP FORWARD AND SAY, I DON'T VIEW HSE'S FIELDS DIFFERENTLY THAN I VIEW THE CITY'S FIELDS AND IF WE ARE LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY AND WE PRIORITIZE THAT WAY, BOY, WE COULD MAKE SOME REALLY SMART INVESTMENTS AN INCREASE OUR CAPACITY AND IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE FOR ALL OUR KIDS WHETHER THEY'RE REPRESENTING A ROYALS OR TIGERS JERSEY OR WHETHER THEY ARE PLAYING FOR MUD SOCK OR ANY OTHER YOUTH SYSTEM.

NOW ONE TO HAVE THINGS THAT I THINK I'VE TRIED TO MAKE A CAREER OUT OF OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS IS THIS YOU TRY TO TACKLE COMPLEX SYSTEMS LIKE THIS AND YOU TRY TO MAKE THEM BETTER.

THE FIRST THING I TRY TO FIGURE OUT IS WHO, WHO CAN BE THE ARCHITECT THAT CAN LEAD, WHO SHARE IT IS SAME VALUES THAT I HAVE AROUND THIS OR THE COMMUNITY HAS AND HAS THE DEEP SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE BUILT OUT OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT ALTOGETHER AND KIND OF BE THE CHIEF ARCHITECT FOR IT AND WE WRESTLED WITH THAT A LOT AT THE CITY BECAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF EXPERTISE WHEN IT COMES TO -- TO ATHLETICS AND SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK VERY FAR TO REALIZE THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENTS THOSE VERY THINGS, THAT SHARES THE SAME VALUE THAT IS WE HAVE AND THAT HAS DEEP SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE AND A DESIRE TO TRULY SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND SO, I SHAMELESSLY WENT AND TRIED TO RECRUIT JIM SELF TO PLAY A ROLE IN THIS, BUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WHAT WE REALIZED IS IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL TO STAY WITHIN THE

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SCHOOL SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE SO MUCH OF THE HEAVY-LIFTING WHEN IT COMES TO ALL THINGS ATHLETICS, BUT THAT THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY A ROLE FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL TO PLAY OUTSIDE OF JUST THE CONFINES OF THE SCHOOL BUILDING. AND SO WE REALIZED THAT AND WE SAID, WE WANT TO BE AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN THAT AND CAN WE ELEVATE TO BE THE CHIEF ARCHITECT OF SPORTS COLLECTIVELY IN THE COMMUNITIES AND IN DOING SO, THE CITY WOULD PARTICIPATE IN THE FINANCIAL COST OF THAT INDIVIDUAL BEING THERE FOR TUNE OF PAYING THEIR ENTIRE SALARY AND AT THE SAME TIME WHAT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO IS HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL REALLY DRIVE PARTIZATION ABOUT WHERE WE INVEST IN ASSETS, DRIVE POLICIES AND ALSO SCHEDULING AND THICKS OF THAT NATURE SO WE HAVE HOLISTIC APPROACH TO THIS AND I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE SUPER OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS AT THE CITY. WE THINK WE CAN GO FROM HERE TO HERE IN SHORT ORDER AND ENSURE THAT FISHERS REMAINS A VERY ATTRACTIVE PLACE FOR FAMILIES TO WANT TO BE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, TOMORROW AND WELL INTO THE FUTURE.

TO GET MORE SPECIFICS INTO WHAT WE ARE ATTEMPT TO GO DO HERE, I'M GOING TO ASK JORDAN ALEXANDER CHIEF OF STAFF TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS INITIATIVE AND THEN WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER

ANY QUESTIONS. JORDAN. >> THANK YOU.

>> YEAH, I WILL TRY NOT TO REITERATE TOO MUCH THAT THE UMA YOUR TOUCHED ON.

YOU WILL SEE SCOPE OF WORK ON THE CITY'S END AND THE SCHOOL'S END AND I WILL LET BRIAN CHIME IN ON ANYTHING THAT I MISSED FROM THE SCHOOL'S PERSPECTIVE BUT I WILL SAY FROM BOTH OF OUR STANDPOINTS THE MAYOR ALLUDE TODAY THIS, THE OVERARCHING GOAL IS TO BRING ALIGNMENT TO THE YOUTH SPORTS PHASE IN FISHERS. I MENTIONED A COUNCIL LAST WEEK BUT TO DATE THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN A PERSON KIND OF OWNING THIS SPACE AND REALLY SERVING AS THAT CENTRAL COMMUNICATOR AMONG ALL THESE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND THAT HAS RESULTED IN SOME MISSED OPPORTUNITIES WHEN IT COMES TO THE MAYOR'S POINT OPTIMIZING OUR ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ACCESS TO SOME OF THESE ASSETS TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE HIGH PERCENTAGE OF HSE AND FISHERS KIDS PLAYING ON THEM. SO THIS ROLE WILL REALLY SERVE TO KIND OF TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND ULTIMATELY JUST CREATE ALL-AROUND BETTER EXPERIENCES FOR OUR KIDS THAT ARE PLAYING IN YOUTH SPORTS WITHIN FISHERS.

SO SPECIFICALLY WITH THE ROLE WE ARE PROPOSING A FIVE-YEAR TERM. JIM WOULD REMAIN A SCHOOL EMPLOYEE, HOWEVER, THE CITY WILL BE REIMBURSING THE SCHOOL FOR THAT SALARY.

YOU'LL ALSO SEE NOTE OF THIS CENTRALIZED SCHEDULING SYSTEM WHICH THE MAYOR KIND OF MENTIONED, SO JIM WILL BE OVERSEEING THIS ASPECT BUT WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF COMBINING ALL CITY OUTDOOR FIELDS WITH SCHOOL ATHLETIC FACILITIES ON ONE CENTRALIZED LIKE SCHEDULING SOFTWARE, SO OBVIOUSLY FROM ONE STANDPOINT THAT REALLY HELPS WITH JUST STREAMLINING, SCHEDULING AND BOOKING OF FIELDS, BUT ALSO WE HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOME BETTER SCHEDULING DATA OUT OF THAT TO REALLY ADVISE ON MAINTENANCE AND WHERE WE ARE PUTTING SOME OF THESE DOLLARS INTO THE FUTURE IN TERMS OF INVESTMENT BECAUSE REALLY GET A BETTER IDEA HOW THE FIELDS ARE BEING USED, WHEN THEY'RE BEING USED AN WHO'S ACTUALLY UTILIZING THEM.

ALSO, WELL, SCOTT MENTIONED I WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL OF THE FIELD INVESTMENT SO THIS IS AN EXHIBIT IN THE INTERLOCAL AS WELL BUT BETWEEN BOTH HSE AND FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL, WE WILL BE INVESTING 3.6 MILLION INTO IMPROVEMENTS, SO THAT INCLUDES A NEW ARTIFICIAL TURF FIELD PLUS LIGHTING ON THOSE FIELD AT BOTH HSE AND FISHERS ADDITIONALLY WE WILL BE -- OR IN THE PROCESS OF UPGRADING ABOUT 20 ACRES OF EXISTING NATURAL FIELDS THROUGHOUT, SO AGAIN THESE INVESTMENTS ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON ELEVATING THE SPACE THAT WE DO HAVE, SO WE CAN REALLY OPTIMIZE WHAT WE DO HAVE FOR HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES, MUD SOCK ATHLETES AN TRAVEL WHERE APPROPRIATE. AND THEN BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO BRIAN TO TOUCH ON ANYTHING ELSE, I DID JUST WANT TO ALSO TOUCH ON AND ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, SO THIS IS SPECIFIC TO CITY FACILITIES BUT WE ARE BRIG AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL ON MONDAY WHICH WILL ESSENTIALLY GIVE THE CITY AUTHORITY AND SCHEDULING OUR ASSETS, SO UNDER OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY, SECOND TO MUD SOCK WHICH IS KIND OF PROHIBITED EFFICIENT USE OF THOSE FACILITIES OR WE'RE MAKING THAT TWEAK UNDER THE ORDINANCE MUD SOCK ATHLETICS WILL STILL RECEIVE FIELD USE, NO CHARGE ASSUMING THEY'RE STILL HAVING 100% PARTICIPATION OF HSE ATHLETES BUT, AGAIN, THE GOAL OUT OF THAT ORDINANCE AGAIN IS DRIVING TOWARDS THIS ENSURING THAT WE'RE EFFICIENTLY SCHEDULING OUR FACILITIES AND CREATING OVERALL BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR STUDENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN YOUTH ATHLETICS.

SO WITH THAT, BRIAN, I DON'T KNOW I YOU WOULD LIKE TO CHIME IN ON ANYTHING I MISSED.

>> I JUST HAVE A FEW THINGS. MY NAME IS BRIAN, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF OPERATION.

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IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH THIS CITY AND JORDAN AND HER TEAM THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE PROCESS TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE MANY PARTNERSHIP THAT IS WE HAVE WITH THE CITY. IT'S TRULY UNIQUE NOT JUST INDIANA BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IT'S A VERY GOOD THING AND SOMETHING I'M VERY PROUD OF.

I JUST WANT TO REITERATE A FEW THINGS JUST FROM THE SCHOOL'S PERSPECTIVE AND I WILL MAKE THEM BRIEF BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, SOME OF THEM, WE ARE GOING TO GET TWO TURF FIELDS FOR THE STUDENTS. IT'S A NICE THING YOU CAN USE THEM ALL OF THE TIME.

OUR FIELDS LITERALLY WEAR OUT. THE GRASS GETS WORN DOWN WHERE THEY AREN'T USABLE AT TIMES.

THAT'S A GREAT THING. REALLY NICE BENEFIT FOR US AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO OPTIMIZE FACILITIES, FACILITY USAGE, OPTIMIZE AND POSSIBLY ENSHARE STAFF THROUGH THE SCHEDULING NEW SOFT U WARE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND WE WILL HAVE A DISTRICT WIDE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR WHO WILL MENTOR, SUPPORT, COACHES, ALL THE WAY TO MUD SOCK YOUTH PROGRAM AND REALLY BUILD OLD-SCHOOL PROGRAM IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE IN KINDERGARTEN. THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE IN FIFTH AND REALLY SHOW GROWTH JUST LIKE WE DO IN ACADEMICS AND THIS ONLY HAPPENS TO BE ON THE ATHLETIC SIDE. THE CITY WILL PAY THE SALARY, WE WILL PAY FOR THE BENEFITS, SO IT'LL BE CLEAR THAT YOU WON'T HAVE NOTHING IN THIS BUT YOU WILL GET SOME FAIRLY NICE THINGS WHILE YOU PAY THE BENEFITS FOR THIS NEW POSITION. AISLE ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS

SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD STARTING WITH

SUZANNE THOMAS? >> WELL, I HAD SEVERAL IN THE VERY BEGINNING BUT I'M RAISING 5 KIDS IN THE DISTRICT AND A BONUS DAUGHTER THAT HAVE BEEN VERY ATHLETIC AND VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY HAS DONE NOTHING BUT BE PHENOMENAL SUPPORT OF OUR STUDENT YOUTH AND SPORTS BUT I DID HAVE IN MY ROLE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FINANCIALS AND THE STRUCTURE AND I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH IN THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN SO I'M JUST GOING TO CONCLUDE WITH A SIMPLE STATEMENT THAT SAYS HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE BOARD AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL THOSE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING.

PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN HAMILTON, SOUTHERN SCHOOLS AND THE CITY OF FISHERS HAVE HISTORICALLY CREATED VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS AN COMMUNITY. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION PROVIDED REGARDING THE STRUCTURE, FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES, THE OVERSIGHT OF THIS AGREEMENT, SO BOTH THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THIS PARTNERSHIP WILL FUNCTION. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL SPOTLIGHT IN ALL THE WAY THAT IS THE CITIES HAVE SUPPORTED HSE IN THEIR EDUCATION, FOR STUDENTS AND OUR TEACHER SUPPORTS AND I'M APPRECIATIVE WITH THE CITY OF THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

>> YEAH, I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS. SO LET'S START WITH THE LAKE COACHES. SO DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY MAY GET FROM THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, YOU TALKED ABOUT KIND OF ATHLETIC PROGRESSION. IS IT ALSO GOING TO INCLUDE CHILD DEVELOPMENT SORT OF THING, HOW TO WORK WITH CHILDREN BECAUSE SOME OF THEM DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT THEIR JOB. >> WELL, I CAN SPEAK TO SPECIFICS ABSOLUTELY.

THEY AREN'T TRAINED EDUCATORS AND LEARN TO GO WORK WITH STUDENTS, HOW THEY GROW, WHERE THEIR MIND IS AT THE TIME IS ONE OF THE KEY -- ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE CAN -- WE CAN

PROVIDE TO STUDENTS THAT WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR EMPLOYEES ON. >> OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT'S PART OF IT FOR SURE. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THE CONTRACT AND I DIDN'T HEAR JORDAN TALK ABOUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE REVISION.

TO BE HONEST, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT SOME TO HAVE BENEFITS TO HSE, I SEE A LOT MORE BENEFITS TO THE COMMUNITY THAT I DO TO HSE SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HSE STUDENTS LIKE OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS GET FIRST SCHEDULING PRIORITY.

I WONDERED IF THAT WAS A DISCUSSION. >> IT HAS BEEN A DISCUSSION IF

YOU DON'T MIND. >> AT THIS POINT, THEY'RE NOT NEEDED, OF COURSE, WE WOULD GIVE THEM TO THE CITY OR WHATEVER INTERESTED IN RUNNING THOSE FIELDS BUT AT THIS POINT, THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN WE'RE GOING TO USE AND THE CITY IS GRACIOUS WITH THAT.

>> IS THAT GOING TO BE ADD TODAY THE CONTRACT OR IS THAT JUST A GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENT.

>> YOUR ORDINANCE ISN'T CHANGING. YOUR FIELD ORDINANCE OR COURT USE ORDINANCE. WHEN JORDAN TALKED ABOUT OUR ORDINANCE CHANGING, THE FIELDS THAT WE OWN, THE PRIORITY WOULD CHANGE BUT FOR YOU GUYS I BELIEVE YOUR ORDINANCE ALREADY

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SAYS SCHOOLS COME FIRST AND EVERYONE ELSE AFTER THAT. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO CHANGE

THAT ORDINANCE. >> BECAUSE THEY'RE ON OUR PROPERTY --

>> THEY'RE YOUR FIELDS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

OH, LET'S SEE. AND THEN ARE WE ADDING LIKE PATHS OR SIDEWALKS THAT GOES TO

THESE FIELDS? >> YES, ON THE CITY'S DIME WE ARE ADDING A CROSSWALK ON 131ST STREET TO ALLOW FOR SAFE PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS FROM THE PARKING LOT -- I GET THE SCHOOLS MIXED UP. SANDS CREEK. SIMILAR TO 126TH STREET WHERE YOU SEE ELEVATED CROSSWALK WITH THE LIGHTS. WE WOULD HAVE A SIMILAR ONE THERE TO ALLOW FOR SAFE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC BACK AND FORTH IN CASE PEOPLE DECIDE TO PARK AT THE ELEMENTARY IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE FOR ANY TYPE OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY AS WELL.

>> AND I'M THINKING LIKE I JUST -- I DON'T THINK THERE'S PATHWAYS EVEN FROM LIKE THE

SCHOOL, LIKE ARE THERE SIDEWALKS THAT FAR BACK? >> THEY DON'T GO THAT FAR NO,

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER ADDING, FOR SURE. >> OKAY.

I'M JUST THINKING IT WAS MENTIONED THAT PERHAPS THE MARCHING BAND OR SOMEONE MIGHT

WANT TO USE THAT. >> SURE. >> THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO PUSH

THEIR PROPS THAT FAR THROUGH THE MUD. >> SURE.

>> FOR EXAMPLE. OKAY. LET'S SEE.

AND SUZANNE ALLUDED THAT A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED THROUGH, YOU KNOW, E-MAIL PRIOR TO -- I JUST WANT TO BRING SOME OF THEM FORWARD JUST TO ASK THEM ON THE RECORD.

AT THE END OF THIS FIVE-TERM CONTRACT, KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS THEN?

>> GO AHEAD. >> ILL IMAGINE WE WOULD REEVALUATE WHETHER WE NEED TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS OR TO CARRY ON THE PROJECT BUT I THINK IT'S GOOD PUBLIC POLICY TO SET A SUNSET IN ANY TYPE OF PROJECT LIKE THIS SO WE CAN COME BACK AND REE-MAILUATE WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS TO BE AMENDED IN ANY WAY OR WE WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH IT?

>> AND WHICH ORGANIZATION IS HANDLING THE BIDDING PROCESS, CONTRACTOR SELECTION, ALL OF

THAT? >> ALL OF THE BIDS ARE DONE BY THE CITY OF FISHERS AND HAVE FOLLOWED ALL STATE LAW PROCUREMENT LAWS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.

>> AND I WAS TOLD THEY WERE GOING MATCH WHAT WE DID IN OUR PREVIOUS TURF AND EVERYTHING, IS

THAT CORRECT? >> YOU MIGHT HAVE STUMPED ME ON THAT ONE, I DON'T KNOW.

>> IT'S NOT EXACTLY A MASH. THE FIELDS ARE BUILT TO THE SAME STANDARD BUT ARE THEY AN EXACT MATCH, THEY ARE NOT. HOWEVER, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PAD UNDERNEATH FOR CONCUSSION PROTOCOLS WHICH I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ON THE OTHER FIELDS.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE ANSWER -- THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING. >> GOOD OPPORTUNITY, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ARE TRYING TO GET UP TO SPEED WORKING ON THAT ROUTE AND OTHERS TO SEE IF WE CAN TAKE OVER THE BASIC MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE TURF FIELDS CURRENTLY THAT'S A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT YOU'RE PAYING AND I THINK WITH THIS AMOUNT OF TURF, THERE'S AN ECONOMY OF SCALE THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DO THE BASIC MAINTENANCE.

WE WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT AVOID WARRANTIES BUT THE STANDARD MAINTENANCE.

BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH MATT AND OTHERS TO GET UP TO SPEED ON THAT.

>> AND THEN JUST TO CONFIRM THIS THE SPONSORSHIP REVENUE AND THE RENTAL REVENUE, BOTH OF THOSE

REMAIN WITH HSE? >> YOU ARE CORRECT. THE RENTAL REVENUE, THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN THAT AT THIS POINT AND OUR SPONSORSHIP REVENUE IS IN A BUCKET ALTOGETHER.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND I THINK THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

>> DR. ALBRIGHT. >> ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, THANKS.

>> LATRICIA? >> MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT WE WILL BE LOSING HSE, AD AND WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE LOSING HFSE AT THE SAME TIME, ARE THEY BEING IN PLACE NOW TO REPLACE THEM?

>> GO AHEAD. >> WE ARE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW LEADING THAT EFFORT WORKING WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPALS. PRINCIPALS IN BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS TO GO THROUGH THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. WE HOPE TO HAVE SOME NAMES OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT'S VOTE IS PENDING WHETHER MR. SELF MOVES TO THIS ROLE AND WE WOULD SEEK OUT SOMEONE TO REPLACE HIM AND DO THE SAME WITH MR. BROWN WHO IS RETIRING FROM FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL.

I HOPE TO BRING YOU NAMES IN APRIL. >> BEN ORR.

>> AS IS OFTEN THE CASE HERE WHEN WE GET THIS FAR ON THE LIST I THINK I'VE HAD MOST OF MY

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QUESTIONS ANSWERED SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I JUST WANT TODAY STRESS HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP AND EVERYTHING YOU ALL DO FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS NOT JUST ATHLETICS BUT ESPECIALLY CHIEF GAPART, YOUR SRO TEAM, JUST FANTASTIC KEEPING OUR STUDENTS SAFE AND JUST -- JUST LIKE YOU MENTIONED, KIND OF A UNIQUE THING THAT WE HAVE HERE, BEEN A LOT OF PLACES, LIVED A LOT OF PLACES AN HAVEN'T SEEN SOMETHING KIND OF AS SIMBYACHTIC SO IT'S REALLY FANTASTIC SO THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, MR. MAYOR, CHIEF, EVERYBODY, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THIS SO THANK YOU.

>> DON LING? >> I THINK MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE ALSO BEEN ANSWERED BUT AS A 31-YEAR RESIDENT TO HAVE CITY I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I KNOW MY KIDS HAVE DEFINITELY BEEN INVOLVED WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY HSE SPORTS, EVOLVED INTO MUD SOCKS AND THROUGH THAT TENURE NOT A LOT CHANGED SO THIS IS A NICE EVOLUTION AND INNOVATION TO WHAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY AS FAST AS IT HAS GROWN. ALSO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INK SIGHTS AROUND THIS TOO BECAUSE WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE DO MOVE TO A CITY BECAUSE OF THE SPORTS AND IT'S VERY ACTIVE IN -- IN CITIES AND OTHER STATES NATIONALLY AND THEY ATTRACT AS WE HAVE SEEN NOT ONLY WESTFIELD AND CLOSE BY NEIGHBORING CITY BUT CITIES, MY KIDS TRAVEL SOFTBALL, BASEBALL, RECREATION OF ACADEMIC DEVELOPMENT SPURRED FROM ATHLETICS AND FINANCIALLY BENEFITED FROM OUR HOTEL STAYS SO, YEAH, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

SAD TO SEE JIM SELF NOT NECESSARILY LEAVING THE DISTRICT BUT HE'S BEEN A GREAT ASSET TO THE DISTRICT BUT I KNOW HE WILL CONTINUE TO STAY ON AND BE, I THINK, VERY INFLUENTIAL IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COACHING STAFF TOO. SO IT'S A WIN-WIN ON BOTH SIDES,

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. >> I JUST WANT TO STATE MY GRATITUDE FOR THE COMBINATION OF HAVING OUR CITY CONTINUOUSLY WORK TOGETHER WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.

A LOT OF OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE THAT AND IT'S ALSO BEEN NOTED EVEN FROM PREVIOUS SUPERINTENDENTS THAT THAT TRULY IS A TREASURE AND I ONLY HOPE THAT WE COULD BE AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER CITIES TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER AND JUST THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND PUT SECURITY AND SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS AND SUCCESS FIRST BECAUSE IT TRULY IS SIMILAR YACHTIC RELATIONSHIP.

DR. >> I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK YOU AS WELL AND I APPRECIATE THE OVERVIEW FOR THIS ROOM AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE ENCOMPASSING A ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITIES AND SCHOOLS ARE DOING TOGETHER. ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE A GREAT ENDEAVOR ON THEIR OWN, BUT WHEN YOU PUT THEM ALL ON ONE PAGE AND YOU LISTEN TO THE REPAP AND EVERYTHING, I MEAN, WOW. SO THIS IS JUST ANOTHER LAYER IN ALL OF THOSE AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL, THE MAYOR AND HIS STAFF, ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONE IN BEHIND THIS AND CAN'T

WAIT TO MOVE FORWARD, THANK YOU. >> CLOSING QUESTION AND DISCUSSION, TURNING IT OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS AND TO LEAD A MOTION IN THE VOTE ON YOUR SIDE.

>> THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE INTERLOCAL

AGREEMENT. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE FISHERS CITY COUNCIL? >> SEEING THAT THERE NONE, I

WILL CALL FOR A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. MANY DAM PRESIDENT WE PRESENT TO YOU THE FISHER CITY COUNCIL APPROVE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

>> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED? >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE

INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> CLOSING DISCUSSION AGAIN AND CALLING THE QUESTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED SAY NAY? PASSES 7-0.

[APPLAUSE] >> MOVING ONTO AGENDA ITEM 4.02, SRO AGREEMENT BY CHIEF GAPART.

>> THIS ONE IS NOT NEARLY DEPARTURE FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST BUT CONTINUATION TO HAVE RELATIONSHIP. I THINK THERE'S BEEN REFINEMENT, IT'S IN THE MOU BUT NOT ANYTHING MORE THAN TV STEP MOVING FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S FAIR, MATT, SO CHIEF AND I ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT REALLY THIS IS NOT A DEVIATION FROM ANYTHING WE'VE HAD TO DATE. I THINK IT'S JUST UPDATING OUR MOU.

>> QUESTIONS OR -- >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> I WILL GO FIRST AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE SRO IS DOING. THE CITY PROVIDES THEM, I WENT THROUGH THE CONTRACT, I DID NOT

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SEE ANY DRASTIC CHANGES. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT, I'M SURE YOU GUYS WILL POINT IT OUT TO US, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THE SRO'S DO DO FOR OUR

DISTRICT -- THEY DO DO FOR OUR DISTRICT. >> I WILL LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE

IT'S THEIR WORKDAY TO DAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR

COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION, WAS THERE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY

DIFFERENT BECAUSE I DIDN'T -- >> THE ONLY SIGNIFICCOUPLE NUANCES THAT ARE IN THERE THAT ARE DIFFERENT IS CARS, WE ADDED CARS TO SRO SIDE BECAUSE THEY ARE TIER ONE, VERY EXPERIENCED OFFICERS AND WE JUST FELT LIKE THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET MOBILE TO EACH OTHER'S SCHOOLS IN CASE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY TO HELP OUT, THAT'S ONE ADD AND THE COST ASSOCIATED IS THEIR SIDE AND THE CAR IS OUR SIDE. ANOTHER SHARED PROGRAM. THE OTHER IS THE GROWTH OF THE UNITS SINCE IT'S MOVING SO FAST WE KIND OF LEFT THAT NUMBER OPEN IN INTERPRETATION LIKE THIS YEAR THE CITY IS TAKING ON TWO ADDITIONAL SRO'S TO OUR COST AND TRAINING BECAUSE THE UNIT IS GETTING SO BIG AND WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY SEND THEM TO TRAININGS TO KEEP CERTIFICATIONS

UP TO PAR, THAT'S A SHARED COST AS WELL. >> I THINK THAT'S ONE COMMENT I WOULD MAKE, THE CHIEF JUST BROUGHT IT UP. THERE'S TWO SSO'S COMING ON THIS YEAR THAT NORMALLY UNDER OUR RELATIONSHIP WE WOULD SPLIT 50-50 IN COST, BUT GIVEN THE FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT THE SCHOOL ARE IN WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD TAKE ON THE FULL COST OF THOSE TWO OFFICERS. WE DIDN'T WANT NOT ADD TWO OFFICERS BECAUSE THE -- THE SCHOOLS WERE IN A FINANCIAL CHALLENGE, SO WE'RE GOING BEAR THE BURDEN OF THOSE OFFICERS.

MAYBE AT SOME POINT THINGS TURN AROUND WITH THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND REFERENDUMS AND GET BACK TO WHERE WE ORIGINALLY STARTED BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO NEGATE THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS AND THE PROGRESSION OF THE PROGRAM OVER THOSE FINANCIAL CHALLENGES SO WE JUST -- THE CITY COUNCIL AND CHIEF AND I JUST SAID KEEP THE PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.

>> THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE

REAL QUICK NOT DETAILED BETWEEN SRO OR SSO? >> RESOURCE OFFICER THAT COME FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TEST INTO POSITIONS AND THERE'S 11 OF THOSE POSITIONS AND THEY WILL REMAIN THE SSO ARE TIER ONE VETTED PROCESS RETIREES PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE ENERGY AN ENTHUSIASM AND A WANT TO BE IN THE YOUTH'S ATMOSPHERE AND THEY HAVE COME ON AND DONE TREMENDOUS JOB IN THE SCHOOLS THAT THEY'RE ON.

SO LIKE ONE OF THEM IS A 25-YEAR IMPD VETERAN. WE HAVE A 25-PLUS YEAR CARMEL PD VETERAN THAT CAME OVER AND THE PROGRAM IN ITSELF ALLOWS THEM TO WORK THE SCHOOLS WHICH THEY LOVE TO DO AND WANT TO DO AND WE ALLOW THAT BUT THEY STILL GET VETTED AN TRAINED, THE SAME AS ALL OF THE OTHER OFFICERS AND THEY WEAR UNIFORM AND TRAIN LIKE THE OTHERS OFFICERS.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

TURNING TO CITY COUNCIL. >> AT THIS TIMELY ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SRO

AGREEMENT? >> SO MOVED. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE? THOSE OPPOSED? MADAME PRESIDENT, WE PRESENT TO YOU THE FISHERS CITY COUNCIL

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOU BETWEEN HSE SCHOOLS AND FISHERS POLICE DEPARTMENT AS PRESENTED?

>> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. >> CLOSING DISCUSSION CALLING THE QUESTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY? PASS 7-0. MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, MAYOR, PRESENTATION. YOU HAVE

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ANOTHER ONE. >> HONESTLY I THINK THE NUMBERS GOT MIXED UP.

WE ARE CONCLUDED -- WE'VE CONCLUDED OUR BUSINESS SO WE WILL CLOSE OUT OUR MEETING AND GET OUT OF YOUR HAIR AND ALLOW YOU TO CONTINUE THE MEETING. AGAIN MYSELF, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR BEING INCREDIBLE PARTNER AND BRIGHTER DAYS AHEAD FOR

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NOW OPENING UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

SHOEMOCKER TENNIS COURTS. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU TO THE BOARD FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES. I'M REPRESENTING PAVING COMPANY, IT'S OUR FOURTH GENERATION BUSINESS.

WE BUILT COUNTLESS ROADWAYS ALL OVER CENTRAL INDIANA, WE BUILT MULTIPLE PROJECTS FOR SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WE ARE PREQUALIFIED CONTRACTOR WITH THE INDIANA DEPARTMENT HIGHWAYS AND ADMINISTRATION. IN THE PAST FIVE AND A HALF YEARS THERE HAVE BEEN PUSH FOR CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES TO BUILD NEW TENNIS SPORTS USING A METHOD USED POST CONCRETE.

CONCRETE IS NOTHING NEW, IT'S A METHOD BUT NOT WIDELY USED FOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES FOR THIS PART OF THE COUNTY.

THE POST CONCRETE IS FAST BECOMING AN ALTERNATIVE.

SCHOOLS IN RESENT BID REQUEST FOR 2026 RESTRUCTION OF FISHERS HIGH AND MIDDLE SCHOOL COURTS. OUR COMPANY SUBMITTED A BID TO BUILD THE PROJECTS SUPPORTED BY SOME OF THE BEST PARTNERS IN CENTRAL INDIANA. OUR BID WAS 3.5 MILLION AND THAT WAS THE LOWEST OF THE THREE BIDS SUBMITTED.

PER THE PUBLISHED AGENDA, THERE IS GOING TO BE A RECOMMENDATION TOOT SCHOOL BOARD SIGN A CONTRACT FOR 4,320 WHICH IS 15 PERCENT THAN GLOEFIS BID. SO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PAY PREMIUM TODAY.

150,000 OF THAT IS FOR A 50-YEAR WARRANTY, THAT THEY PROVIDE. TARQUET IS A VISION OF FRANCE MULTI MANUFACTURE AND RESENT YEARS THEY HAVE EXPANDED INTO IF THE ATHLETIC SERVICES. THEIR U.S. DIVISION IS VERY GOOD AT MARKETING AND SALES BUT FOR $500,000 YOU'LL BE PURCHASING THE DEALING WITH THEM INSTEAD OF LONG TIME LOCAL CONTRACTORS. IF THERE IS A CLAIM AGAINST THE WARRANTY, IS IT GOING TO BE THE SAME COMPANY THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW? BY THE FINE PRINT WARRANTY.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

>> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER P

BOL SEE SECOND READ. >> SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING, TYLER, PRESIDENT. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND DR.

KEGLEY I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE POLICY AND BARGAINING TEAM STAND IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS POLICY BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO ATTEND KEY DISTRICT MEETINGS AS SILENT OBSERVERS. THESE INCLUDE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND AD HOC OR DISTRICT LEVEL BUDGET REDUCTION MEETINGS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY COLLECTIVE BARGAINING SESSIONS.

WE BELIEVE THIS POLICY ALIGNS WITH OTHER DISTRICTS WHO PRACTICE SIMILAR PROCEDURES DURING THEIR OWN BARGAINING CYCLES. BOARD MEMBERS HAVE SAT IN ON NEGOTIATING AND TAKEN THAT GIVES THEM PROOF OF THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN TT UNION AND ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY CAN SPEAK TO. ADDITIONALLY, WE BELIEVE THIS POLICY PROMOTES TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY FOR BOARD MEMBERS, GIVEN THAT THE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING, HAVING BOARD MEMBERS OBSERVE CAN PROVIDE VALUABLE INSIDE INTO HOW BOTH SIDES COLLABORATION AT THE BARGAINING TABLE.

BECAUSE OF THIS, WE ASK THAT YOU VOTE YES TO APPROVE THE POLICY THAT WAY MORE STAKEHOLDERS ARE ABLE TO SPEAK TO BARGAINING, ITS PROCESS AND INEVITABLE OUTCOME THAT IS OUR CONTRACT BECAUSE UFT THE VOTE O NOT THAT, WE FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE PRIVY TO HOW ADMINISRATION COLLABORATE HOW THEY ATTEMPT TO PROBLEM SOLVE COLLECTIVELY AND HOW WE WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE GOALS NOT JUST THE BARGAINING TEAM

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BUT FOR ALL TEACHERS IN OUR DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, CONSENT AGENDA, FOUR ITEMS. 9.01, THE.02, AND 9.03. AND .04. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE

AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY.

THERE IS A NAY? YES, THANK YOU.

I CAN'T SEE, SIX. MOVING ON TO 10.01, INTERIM

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SUPERINTENDENT PRESENTED BY MYSELF, AND PRESIDENT PASCOE.

CURRENT PAY RATE WITH ADDITIONAL STIPEND WHILE CARRYING OUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS MOTION AS PRESENTED.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MOU, OOPS I'M ON THE WRONG ONE.

I MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

FROM THE BOARD? >> I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT, I WANT TO THANK DR. KEGLEY FOR ONCE AGAIN, STEPPING UP AND SERVING THE COMMUNITY AND THE DISTRICT, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. SO NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE, THANK YOU. CLOSING DISCUSSION, CALLING THE QUESTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED SAY NAY.

PASSES -0. MOVING ON TO 10 .02.

>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, OUR CADENCE IS MOVING ON A MARCH TIMELINE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEARS AND YEARS.

I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THESE CONTRACTS ARE NOT CONNECTED TO ANY FINANCE PER SE, MEANING THERE IS NO CHANGE IN SALARY.

THIS IS SIMPLY AN EXTENSION OF THE CONTRACTS FOR THE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE LISTED BEFORE YOU IN THE BOARD PACKET.

I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE

AS PRESENTED. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE 10.02 AS

PRESENTED. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> CALLING FOR A ROLL CALL.

SUSAN TOMAS. >> YES.

>> SARAH PARKS REESE. >> YES.

>> DR. ALBRIGHT IS OUT. PATRICIA SCHOOL'.

>> YES. >> BEN ORR?

>> JUST A QUICK POINT OF ORDER, >> I NEED TO ABSTAIN ON THIS

ONE. >> GO AHEAD.

>> OKAY, CAN I CONTINUE. >> PLEASE.

>> YES. >> DAWN.

>> YES. >> AND I'M A YES.

PASSES 5-0. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> MOVING ON TO 10.03. >> SPEAKER: MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IT'S MY HONOR TO ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE ADOPTION FOR TIER 3 INSTRUCTION IN JUNIOR HIGH.

THE MATERIAL THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE IS HMH READ 180 FOR DESIGNED FOR TIER 3 INSTRUCTION.

AGAIN TIER 3 IS HIGH INTENSITY INSTRUCTION FOR STUDENTS WHO HAVE NOT QUITE MASTERED THOSE FOUNDATIONAL SKILLS ESPECIALLY READING, READING 180 HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.

AS YOU CAN SEE THE ATTACHED DOCUMENT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE BOARD APPROVED PROCESS FOR RESOURCE AND CURRICULAR

ADOPTION. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO

APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT TIER

3 ENGLISH PROPOSAL AS PRESENTED. >> DO I HAVE A SECOND.

>> SECOND. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

FROM THE BOARD. >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE DETAIL THAT WAS PUT INTO DILIGENT AND FOR US TO REVIEW. IT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I USUALLY ASK SO I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

>> GREAT. THANK YOU.

>> CLOSING DISCUSSION AND CALLING THE QUESTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS ITEM SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> THOSE SAY NAY, PASSES 5-0.

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6-0, OH MY GOSH, SORRY. MOVING SEATS HERE.

MOVING ON DUE TO A CLIENT NOT BEING PRESENT FOR THEIR PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH TO 10.06 WITH MATT.

>> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT.

I THINK I'M PRESENTING THE HSHER ROAD ELEMENTARY.

>> 10.06 WILL BE FOCUS PLAYGROUND.

>> SPEAKER: I'LL DO THAT ONE THEN, FOR THE PLAYGROUND, THE FACILITY DEPARTMENTS HAS EVALUATED THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THE MAIN STWRUK TOUR IS ON THIS PLAYGROUND IS OVER 20 YEARS OLD. THEY DO NOT MAKE PARTS FOR IT ANYMORE. THIS PLAYGROUND IS IN OUR TEN-YEAR PLAN AND THE FUNDING WILL BE COMING FROM OUR G.O.BONDS. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR.

INTERMEDIATE SCHOOLS THAT ARE THERE SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING MORE EQUIPMENT FOR THEM AS THEY GET OUT TO RECESS AND RELEASE ALL THAT ENERGY. WE WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS ON DESIGNING RECREATIONAL AREA FOR ALL THE STUDENTS, IT WILL HAVE A SOFT RUBBER FOR BETTER SAFETY AND ADA COMPLIANCE. THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE PURCHASED THROUGH AMNIA COOP AND THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ESPECIALLY RECREATION GROUP TO PURCHASE AND INSTALL THE NEW

PLAYGROUND FOR 213,301. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO A

APPROVE THIS AS PRESENTED. >> I MOVE THAT THE PLAYGROUND AT THE FOCUS TO RECREATION GROUP NA IS AS PRESENTED.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? CLOSING DISCUSSION AND CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SAY

AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED SAY NAY. PASSES WITH 0 OPPOSES.

CONTINUING ON WITH MATT. >> SPEAKER: THANK YOU, I'LL BE PRESENTING ON HUSHER ROAD ELEMENTARY.

THIS STRUCTURE IS ALSO OVER 20 YEARS AND HARD TO GET PARTS.

WE'VE ACTUALLY CLOSED SECTIONS OF IT.

WE WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION.

IT WILL HAVE THE RUBBER FOR ADA COMPLIANCE.

THIS EQUIPMENT WILL ALSO BE PURCHASED THROUGH THE OMNIO COOP. THEY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL RECREATION GROUP TO PURCHASE AND INSTALL THE

PLAYGROUND AT HOOSIER ROAD. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO AWARD THE EQUIPMENT AT HOOSIER ROAD AS PRESENTED?

>> I MOVE TO AWARD THE INSTALLATION OF NEW PLAYGROUND TO COMMERCIAL RECREATION GROUP AS PRESENTED.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

>> MR. AP, YOU CLARIFY, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT IT IS PART OF OUR

BONDS. >> OH YES, THEY'LL BE PURCHASED OUT OF THE G.O.BONDS. THANK YOU.

>> AND I MAY HAVE MISSDS BECAUSE I KNOW I SAID IT IN THE LAST ONE AS WELL. DID YOU ALSO WORK WITH THE

ADMINISTRATION. >> WE DID, MOST OF THE FEEDBACK WAS ONLY THE ADA SIDE. SO THIS EQUIPMENT WILL HAVE LARGER ADA SIDE, THAT'S THE FEEDBACK I WAS GETTING FROM

THERE. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE PORT IN PLACE IS PERFECT. IT DOESN'T JUST LIMIT, I GET EXCITED ABOUT THIS STUFF. SO, THE PORT IN PLACE, THEY CAN GO TO ALL THE SWINGS NOT JUST THE ONE.

>> CLOSING DISCUSSION AND CALLING THE QUESTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS ITEM AS PRESENTED.

SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED SAYS NAY. PASSES 0 OPPOSED.

NOBODY OPPOSED, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, THANK YOU.

MOVING ON MATT. >> THANK YOU, AGAIN.

WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL AND JUNIOR HIGH TENNIS COURT REPLACEMENT. DESIGN COMPANY HAS EVALUATED THE CONDITIONS OF THE TENNIS COURTS AT FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL AND FISHERS JUNIOR HIGH AND DUE TO THEIR CONDITION AND AGE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE REPLACEMENT FROM THE GROUND UP USING CONCRETE TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE COURTS.

FISHER JUNIOR HIGH COURTS WERE BUILT IN 1999, FISHER HIGH

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SCHOOL WERE BUILT IN 2015 DUE TO THE MOISTURE DAMAGE FROM THESE COURTS, THEY ALL NEED TO BE REPLACED BOTH AREAS.

WE WILL BE ADDING SIDEWALKS AND VIEWING AREAS SEPARATING THE PLAYERS FROM. VISITORS TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE SAFER FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE PLAYING. WE ARE ADDING LIGHTS TO THE FISHER HIGH SCHOOL COURTS, SIX OF THEM WILL BE LIT UP OUT OF THE 12 THAT WILL BE THERE. THE FUNDS WILL BE PAID FROM OUR G.O.BONDS. AND, THESE BIDS, WE BID THESE PROJECTS TOGETHER TO RECEIVE THE BETTER PRICING, WE RECEIVED THREE BIDS, THE BIDS WERE EVALUATED BY COSTS AND WARRANTY.

THE FACILITIES RECOMMENDS APPROVAL TO AWARD THE TENNIS COURT REPLACEMENT FOR FISHERS TO TARGET CONSTRUCTION FOR THE

AMOUNT OF 4,032,780. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO REPLACE THE TENNIS COURTS AS PRESENTED.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND? BUELLER?

DO I HAVE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND.

>> ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD?

>> YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT THE BIDS, AND I'M I'M NOT SEEING THE NUMBERS THAT WERE GIVEN BY THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.

SO SIF QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. --SO I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND I HAD ALSO ASKED IN AN EMAIL AND I DID NOT GET AN ANSWER SPECIFICALLY TO THAT.

WHY DID THE COURTS AT FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL NEED REPLACED SO MUCH SOONER THAN FISHERS JUNIOR HIGH, IF YOU MAY KNOW THE

REASON. >> RIGHT, SO WE HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL WHY WE'RE REPLACING JUST AFTER 15 YEARS.

THE GROUND HAS SETTLED AND IT'S CAUSING, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF REPAIRS ON THERE AND WE THOUGHT THIS IS THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT FROM THE BACKGROUND UP AND DOING THE POST TENSION CONCRETE, THAT'S WHY THAT ONE.

THE SECOND QUESTION WAS WE HAD A PUBLIC SPEAKERS THAT GAVE US 3.5 MILLION DOLLARS AND OUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THAT 4 MILLION. BUT I'M NOT SAYING THE 3.53 MILLION ON OUR COMBO BID AGGREGATES, I SEE THE 4 MILLION I, SEE AN 8 AND A HALF MILLION AND I SEE A NO BID.

> SURE SOME OF THE, SO THE 4 MILLION, ONCE YOU ADD IN THE ALTERNATES, ONE WAS GOING TO 150 AT BOTH OF THE SCHOOLS, THOSE WERE SFRA CHARGES WHICH WOULD LIKE TO GET.

FRED, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THE COST?

>> FRED WITH CONTACT SPORTS. >> WE HAD A BABYSITTER ISSUE, SO I CAME AT THE LAST MINUTE. THANK YOU FOR THE TUPT TO SPEAK.

THE AGGREGATE TOTAL, MATT MENTIONED THE EXTENDED WARRANTIES. WE DID HAVE THREE BIDDERS RESPOND. WE HAD THREE REALLY DIFFERENT RESPONSES WITH THE WARRANTY, WE HAD A BID THAT IS INSURED WARRANTY AND THEN A THIRD BIDDER THAT ESSENTIALLY PROVIDED THE COST TO LITERALLY RECONSTRUCT IT'S A THREE MILLION DOLLARS NUMBER IF YOU SO THAT.

SO THREE DIFFERENT WAYS TO PROVIDE ASSURITY TO THE SCHOOL.

I THINK MATT MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, WITH THE BOARD'S SUPPORT DID LAST YEAR, WE DID WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND WE DID A 15-YEAR WARRANTY AND YOU DO THAT HAVE THAT PROTECTION. I MENTIONED IN A LETTER, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP PARITY IN EVERYONE AND THAT'S CONSIDERING THOSE ALTERNATE IS IMPORTANT IN OUR OBJECTIVE VIEW OF OUR

ANALYSIS. >> MATT, THIS IS MORE FOR YOU, I USED TO SIT IN THE FACILITY COMMITTEE.

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SINCE THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST ONE THAT I CAN REMEMBER PERHAPS THE LOWEST BIDDER IS NOT BEING THE RECOMMENDATION, THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT? WE DON'T ONLY LOOK AT COSTS EVERY TIME, SOMETIMES IT WORKS OUT THAT WAY THAT ALL THE OTHER BOXES ARE CHECKED AS WELL AS THE BEST PRICE BUT CAN YOU GO THROUGH THAT A LITTLE BIT? ESPECIALLY WITH THE WARRANTY I

THINK WAS A BIG DEAL. >> YES, SO IN THIS CASE, WE GO BY COST. SORRY, WE DID GO BY THE COST, THE WARRANTY AND THE EXPERIENCE IN THIS.

WE WERE WHEN WE DID RIVERSIDE POST TENSION, WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO DO THAT.

AND THEN NOW, IT'S JUST TAKEN OFF THROUGHOUT FIVE 86 SCHOOLS, BUT WE DO EVALUATE AND WE DO GET PHONE CALLS AND GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUTSIDE PEOPLE WHETHER IT BE ATHLETIC DIRECTORS OR CONSULTANT ON THEIR EXPERIENCE WZ CONTRACTORS OR WITH PRICING THAT IS HOW I COME UP WITH A LOT OF MY PRICING BY CALLING AROUND. BUT THOSE THINGS IS HOW I

EVALUATE. >> AND JUST, THE FOLLOW-UP ON IT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO DIVERT THE QUALITY ASPECT OF SOMETHING AS YOU MENTIONED, WE'VE, HAD TO MAKE MANY REPAIRS AND A LOT OF US HAVE SEEN NEIGHBORHOOD TENNIS COURTS WITH CRACKS AND THEY BECOME ALMOST UNUSEABLE AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, WE'RE TRYING TO THINK LONG TERM AND QUALITY IN TERMS OF EVERYTHING THAT GOES INTO IT NOT JUST THE UP FRONT COST BUT THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT FOR PERHAPS UP TO 50 YEARS. AND THEN OTHER PART WOULD BE THIS IS AGAIN PAID OUT OF BOPPED MONEY.

>> IT IS. >> SO AS YOU WORK THROUGH BONDS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT OTHER BUCKETS LIKE THE EDUCATION FUND, ALTHOUGH IT COULD AFFECT OPERATION FZ WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO REPAIRS. THAT'S WHERE LONG TERM QUALITY.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. THE SPEAKER HAD MENTIONED COMMENTS ABOUT INTERNATIONAL AND ALTHOUGH YOU MAY HAVE INTERNATIONAL, WE HAVE LOCAL SUPPORT.

>> YES, THEY LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I HAVE AWARDEE THAT LIVE HERE IN HAMILTON COUNTY.

MANY COMPANIES ARE OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY, BURGER KING IS ONE OF THEM. I EAT THERE BUT THEY HAVE

TAXPAYERS HERE. >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

>> MATT, DID I HEAR CORRECTLY THAT THE WARRANTY IS EXTENDED TO OTHER TENNIS COURTS OR JUST THIS ONE?

>> WHEN WE PURCHASED AND YOU PURCHASED THE OTHER TENNIS COURTS, RIVERSIDE, FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL, THOSE ALL HAVE 50-YEAR

WARRANTIES. >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

CLOSING DISCUSSION, CALLING THE QUESTION, DO A ROLL CALL.

SUSAN TOMAS. >> YES.

>> SARAH PARKS-REESE? >> YES.

>> DR. ALBRIGHT. >> YES.

>> SCHOOLY. >> YES.

>> BEN ORR. >> YES.

>> DAWN. >> AND I'M A YES.

PASSES 6-0. MOVING ON.

WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO DO NEXT.

>> MY LAST ONE. >> OKAY, THAT'S GOOD.

>> I'M SWEAT ISING UP HERE. --SWEATING UP HERE.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS.

I'LL BE PRESENTING THE GYM FLOOR REPLACEMENT.

AS PART OF THE TEN-YEAR PLAN, THE EASTERN HIGH SCHOOLS IS ON THE LIST AND AT THE END OF ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY.

THE FLOOR CANNOT BE SANDED DOWN ANY FURTHER.

THE CURRENT FLOOR IS APPROXIMATELY 40 YEARS OLD, IT'S 38 AND SOME CHANGE. THE NEW FLOOR IS EXPECTED TO LAST 60 YEARS. THIS PROJECT WILL BE PAID THROUGH OUR G.O.BONDS. WE PUBLIC ADVERTISED AND RECEIVED THREE BIDS THROUGH THE EVALUATION OF THE BIDS, THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENTS RECOMMENDS THE VARSITY FLOOR REPLACEMENT TO BE AWARDED TO FOUR-STAR FLOORING FOR 47 2000,--472,293. THE WORK WILL BE DONE NEXT SUMMER, NOT THIS SUMMER AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON HOW FLOORING WORKS IN THE GYM. THERE IS DIFFERENT LAYERS OF THE FLOORING BUT THE TOP IS A GOOD 3-INCH THICK.

WE USUALLY SAND IT ABOUT EVERY TEN YEARS.

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THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU HEAR ME, IT CAN'T BE SANDED ANYMORE, THAT'S THE REASON, WHETHER IT'S PEELING, DAMAGE TO THE FLOOR, THOSE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS BUT ONCE YOU GET DOWN TO THE NAIL HEADS, IT BECOMES A HAZARD FOR OUR STUDENTS AND WE CANNOT DO

IT ANYMORE. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO AWARD THE FLOOR CONTRACT TO FOUR-STAR CARE AS PRESENTED.

>> I MOVE TO AWARD THE VARSITY GYM FLOOR REPLACEMENT AT HAMILTON EASTERN HIGH SCHOOL AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING THAT THERE IS NOTHING, CLOSING DISCUSSION CALLING THE QUESTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY

AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED SAYS NAY. PASSES 6-0.

--7-0. NEXT IS REVISED CALENDAR BY DR.

KEGLEY. >> GOOD EVENING, I PRESENT TO YOU AGAIN THE 26-27 AND 27-28 CALENDARS FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

WE ARE RECOMMENDING ONE MINOR ADJUSTMENT TO BOTH OF THESE YEAR CALENDAR THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

AND IT COMES BASED OUT OF INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED AFTER THE APPROVAL OF THE LAST CALENDAR THAT YOU DID THE 28-29.

WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE MOVE THE TEACHER WORK HALF DAY TO WHAT HAS BEEN, A PRETTY CONSISTENT FLOW OF DOING THAT RIGHT WHEN WE COME BACK IN JANUARY.

SO, IN THE 26-27 CALENDAR, YOU'LL SEE THE DECEMBER 18TH DATE, IT IS NOW THE LAST STUDENT DATE OF THE SEMESTER AND JANUARY 4 IS TEACHER DAY AND IN 27-28, THE 17TH OF DECEMBER IS THE LAST STUDENT DAY AND THE THIRD OF JANUARY IS THE TEACHER DAY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 2026-27 CALENDAR AS AS PRESENTED?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> DO HAVE I A SECOND. >> SECOND.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT FRZ THE BOARD.

>> JUST A QUICK QUE, YOU SAID HALF DAY, IS IT NOT A FULL DAY.

>> NO THEY'RE HALF DAYS. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK.

WE HEARD FROM, TEACH TEZER. --TEACHERS.

>> YEP. >> YOU LISTENED TO THAT AND BROUGHT IT BACK QUICKLY AND WE'RE MAKE ING THE ADJUSTMENT,

THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> CLOSING DISCUSSION AND CALLING FOR THE QUESTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE. >> OPPOSED SAY NAY.

PASSES 7-0. MOVING ON TO 10.09, POLICY

SECOND READING BY DR. KEGLEY. >> SECOND READ, WE TOOK THESE THROUGH POLICY COMMITTEE LOOKING AT K-500 RELATED TO PUBLIC RECORDS. THERE ARE NO MAJORS CHANGES TO THIS POLICY, JUST UPDATING THE DATES.

AND K-10 AND G-215 BACKGROUND CRIMINAL CHECKLIST INFORMATION, AGAIN POINTING OUT THERE WERE NO CHANGES COMING OUT OF POLICY FROM WHAT YOU SAW IN THE FIRST READ.

THE WHAT WE DID IS, JUST A REMINDER, WE STRUCK THE LANGUAGE AROUND COACHES BECAUSE IT WAS RELATED SOLELY IN COACHES IN GRADES 9 THROUGH 12 AND CREATED MORE OF A UMBRELLA LIST OF FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE SUPERVISION ROLES.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE FOLKS ARE INCLUDED IN THE BACKGROUND DHEK. --CHECK PROCESS.

I, WOULD LIKE IF YOU DON'T MIND TO VOTE ON K-5 AND K-10.

AND THEN, MOVE IN TO B-4 BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OTHER DISCUSSION THAT MAY OR MAY NOT LEAD TO A VOTE, IF THAT'S OKAY. SO I'M RECOMMENDING K-5 AND

K10, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION TO

APPROVE K5 AND K10 AS PRESENTED. >> I MOVE AS PRESENTED.

>> GREAT. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? CLOSING DISCUSSION AND CALLING THE QUESTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS ITEM, K5 AND

K10 AS PRESENTED SAY AYE. >> AYE.

>> OPPOSED SAYS NAY. PASSES 7-0.

>> SO B4.00, HAD, WE PRESENTED THAT ORIGINALLY THAT WAS ADDED TO AN AGENDA A CUP OF MONTHS. WE TOOK IT TO THE NEXT MONTH'S POLICY COMMITTEE MEETING. HAD SOME DISCUSSION, I OFFERED TO BRING BACK SOME POSSIBLE EDITS AND WE DID AT OUR LAST MEETING. SO I HAVE BEFORE YOU, A REVISED

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B-4.00 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.

YOU'LL SEE AGAIN, THE GREEN AREA WE'RE SEPARATING WHAT OUR CURRENT BOARD COMMITTEES FROM WHAT WE'RE CALLING DISTRICT COMMITTEES. THESE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING INSURANCE AND AD HOC DISTRICT LEAD COMMITTEES LIKE A REDUCTION COMMITTEE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS

PROPOSAL? >> FIRST OF ALL, MADAM

PRESIDENT, MAY I GO FIRST. >> JUST A SECOND.

I DO HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED?

>> MOTION TO APPROVE POLICY AS PRESENTED

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND >> SECOND.

>> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD?

THANK YOU, SUSAN. >> I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WENT INTO DRAFTING THIS POLICY AND RESPONSES THAT WERE PROVIDED. I BELIEVE THE POLICY IS VERY VERY CLOSE BUT I'M GOING TO SUGGEST SOME EDITS TO A COUPLE OF THE SENTENCES TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD TONIGHT.

MY INTENT HERE IS NOT TO COMPLICATE THE POLICY BUT TO ENSURE THE LANGUAGE REFLECTS THE BOARD'S GOVERNING ROLE.

FIRST ONE THERE IS A SENTENCE THAT SAYS THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY APPOINT A MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD TO ATTEND IN-PERSON THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

MY SUGGESTED LANGUAGE WOULD BE AND THEN I'LL SHARE WHY, IS, BOARD MEMBERS MAY ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AS NON PARTICIPATING OBSERVERS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.

PROVIDED ADVANCE NOTICES AND ATTENDANCE DOES NOT RESULT IN QUALMER OF THE BOARD. IF MULTIPLE BOARD MEMBERS REQUEST TO ATTEND THE MEETING, ATTENDANCE MAY BE LIMITED.

I FEEL THAT THIS ALLOWS ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO REMAIN INFORMED ON ISSUES THAT MAY LATER COME UP FOR THE BOARD FOR ACTION. I THINK IT MAINTAINS THE OPEN-DOOR LAW COMPLIANCE BY ENSURING THAT ATTENDANCE DOES NOT RESULT IN A QUORUM AND IT KEEPS OUR BOARD MEMBERS STRICTLY IN AN OBSERVATION ROLE.

I HAVE FOUR CHANGES. >> ARE YOU UNDER DISTRICT

COMMITTEES? >> OKAY.

>> CAN YOU TELL ME YOUR NUMBER ONE FIRST.

NUMBER ONE, THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAZE ATTEND A BOARD MEMBER TO ATTEND IN-PERSON THE FOLLOWING COMMITTEE MEETINGS.

I ONLY TOOK THE SNIP ITS OUT, SO IF YOU OPEN IT.

UNLESS YOU TOOK IT OUT. IT'S RIGHT UNDER DISTRICT COMMITTEES IN AN EFFORT WHO'S PURPOSE WILL LEAD TO THE BOARD ACTION, THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY APPOINT.

I'M SAYING RIGHT THERE, MY SUGGESTION TO AMEND IS TO SAY, BOARD MEMBERS MAY ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AS NON PARTICIPATING OBSERVERS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY PROVIDED ADVANCE NOTICE IS GIVEN TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND SUPERINTENDENT AND ATTENDANCE DOES NOT RESULT IN A QUORUM OF THE BOARD, IF MULTIPLE BOARD MEMBERS REQUEST TO ATTEND THE SAME MEETING, ATTENDANCE MAY BE LIMITED AND WILL BE BASED ON REQUEST RECEIVED. I THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE IF THE A BOARD MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND THEY MAKE SURE THAT THEY LET YOU AND THE BOARD PRESIDENT KNOW AND THEN, IF THERE IS ONLY TWO, THEN TWO SHOW UP.

IF THERE IS ONLY ONE, ONLY TWO SHOW UP.

>> WOULD THAT BE FOR? >> DISTRICT ONLY.

>> IS KNOW BUT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF, FOR EXAMPLE, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING MIGHT MEET FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX TIMES, WOULD IT BE

PER MEETING? >> PER MEETING.

CORRECT. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION BECAUSE THERE MAY BE A BOARD MEMBER THAT ONLY WENT TO THE ONE AND GOT INFORMATION THEY NEEDED AND DO NOT NEED TO ATTEND ANOTHER ONE. THAT'S THE SECOND ONE, THE EXISTING LANGUAGE SAYS, THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND/OR SUPERINTENDENT MAY LIMIT THE ATTENDANCE OF MEMBERS AT ONE OF THE ABOVE MEETINGS DUE TO CONFIDENTIAL OR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS. IS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SUGGESTED LANGUAGE READ, BOARD MEMBER ATTENDANCE MAY BE LIMITED ONLY WHEN REQUIRED BY LAW OR WHEN CONFIDENTIAL RESTRICTIONS APPLY TO MATTERS INVOLVING PERSONNEL OR LEGAL

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ISSUES. WHY I FEEL THIS IS IMPORTANT IT ENSURES THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS RETAIN AWARENESS IT REMOVES THE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY THAT COULD UNINTENTIONALLY LIMIT ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER ACCESS TO OR SERVE DISTRICT PROCESS SXZ MAINTAINS NECESSARY CONFIDENTIAL FOR PERSONNEL AND

LEGAL MATTERS. >> OKAY.

>> THAT'S THE SECOND ONE. THEN I'LL GO TO THE THIRD.

NUMBER 3, THE EXISTING LANGUAGE SAYS THE ROLE OF THE BOARD MEMBER DESCRIBED ABOVE WILL BE AS A NON VOTING SILENCE OBSERVER. SUGGESTED LANGUAGE, BOARD MEMBERS ATTENDING WILL SERVE AS A NON VOTING OBSERVERS--EXCUSE ME, LET ME READ IT AGAIN. BOARD MEMBER WILL SERVE AS NON VOTING OBSERVERS AND WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN DECISION-MAKING DURING ANY PORTION OF THE MEETING.

AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING, THE BOARD MEMBER MAY ASK BRIEF CLARIFYING TO THE QUESTIONS TO THE MEETING FACILITATOR ONLY. WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT IT MAINTAINS THE EXPECTATION THAT THE BOARD MEMBER, THAT THEY DO NOT PARTICIPATE THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION, NO QUESTIONS AT ALL DURING THE WHOLE ENTIRE MEET ING, NO COMMITTEE DELIBERATIONS, IT PREVENTS DISRUPTING THE MEETING, SO BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT DISRUPT ARING THE MEETING AND ALLOWS THAT THE INFORMATION THEY JUST HEARD THEY'RE UNDERSTANDING IT.

>> SO, YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF A SILENT OBSERVER UNTIL THE MEETING CONCLUDES AND THEN OPTION FOR CLARIFICATIONS.

>> JUST TO EVERYBODY IS PRESENTING, NOT EVERYONE IN THE COMMITTEE WHICH WOULD BE YOU OR YOUR DESIGNEE , CLARIFYING BUT NOT INVOLVED IN THE MEETING AND NOT MAKING SUGGESTIONS.

>> I WOULD, OKAY. >> NOT MAKING ANY SUGGESTIONS, THEY'RE JUST ASKING LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, DID YOU SAY, USING THE GREEN ONE EVERY DAY OR USING THE GREEN ONE ONCE IN A WHILE.

THAT'S IT. >> ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION

OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? >> LET ME FINISH.

>> OH SHE HAS MORE. >> THESE ARE THE FOUR SECTIONS.

ONE MORE. THE LAST ONE IS ALL INFORMATION OBSERVED IN ANY ELIGIBLE MEETING IS STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL, THAT IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY STATED.

I WOULD RECOMMEND ALL INFORMATION OBSERVED IN ANY ELIGIBLE MEETING SHOULD BE TREATED AS CONFIDENTIAL AND NOT DISCLOSED PUBLICLY, SUCH INFORMATION MAY BE SHARED WITH THE BOARD CONSISTENT WITH INDIANA LAW.

THE SUPERINTENDENT OR DESIGNEE SHOULD ENSURE THAT THE BOARD RECEIVES AN APPROPRIATE SUMMARY OF BRIEFING, IF NECESSARY DUE TO THE CONFIDENTIAL NATURE OF THE INFORMATION, THE MATTER MAY BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT MAINTAINS THE CONFIDENTIAL AND PROTECTS THE PUBLIC'S DISCLOSURE AND ENSURES THAT THEY RECEIVE THE INFORMATION WHAT MATTERS LATER, AND IT SUPPORTS SHARED GOVERNANCE AND INFORMED DECISION-MAKING. LASTLY T MAINTAINS COMPLIANCE WITH INDIANA LAW, WE HAVE TWO INDIANA CODES THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT STATEMENT WHICH I'M NOT GOING TO READ OFF UNLESS YOU WANT TO KNOW THEM. THOSE WOULD BE THE FOUR

AMENDMENT. >> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION.

>> SURE, OF COURSE. >> BOARD MEMBER TAKES NOTES DURING AND OBSERVES MEETING AND THEN SUMMARIZES, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

SUMMARIZES AND THEN EMAILS THEM TO THE REST OF THE BOARD.

>> NOT WITHOUT YOUR APPROVAL, SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE AN AUTHORIZATION BECAUSE WE WANT TO PROTECTION OPEN DOOR LAW AND CONFIDENTIAL. SO NO A BOARD MEMBER CANNOT

MAKE A SUMMARY AND SHARE IT OUT. >> OKAY.

>> NEITHER SHOULD STAFF HAVE TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, IF THE BOARD MEMBERS TAKES NOTES, IT SHOULD GO TO YOU FOR VERIFYING, AT LEAST THAT'S MY SUGGESTION.

>> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> YEAH, I HAVE SOME. >> I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED, DID

YOU GET IT? >> SUSAN CAN YOU REPEAT THAT.

>> SO THE EXISTING LANGUAGE, SAYS THE BOARD PRESIDENT MAY

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APPOINT A MEMBER OF THE SCHOOL BOARD TO ATTEND IN-PERSON THE FOLLOWING DISTRICT COMMITTEES MEETING WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE ON YOUR THING. MY SUGGESTION IS BOARD MEMBERS MAY ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AS NON PARTICIPATING OBSERVERS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY PROVIDED ADVANCE NOTICE IS GIVEN TO THE BOARD PRESIDENT AND THE SUPERINTENDENT AND ATTENDANCE DOES NOT RESULT IN THE QUALMER OF THE BOARD.

IF MULTIPLE BOARD MEMBERS REQUESTS TO ATTEND THE SAME MEETING, ATTENDANCE MAY BE LIMIT ASKED ACCOMMODATED BASED ON THE ORDER IN WHICH THE REQUESTS ARE RECEIVED.

SO FOR SOME REASON, FIVE MEMBERS WANT TO SHOW UP, THE FIRST THREE THAT ASKED TO GO WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND.

>> IS THERE A DEADLINE? >> YES, AS LONG AS.

IF I'M NOT MISUNDERSTANDING AND TO CONTINUE THE COMMENT FOR HER, IS, THIS SHOULD BE THE PROCEDURE, THE PROCESSES THAT YOU WOULD PUT IN PLACE, YOU PUT THE PROCEDURES AND THE POLICY.

SO THE PROCEDURES WOULD BE SETTING THAT UP WITHIN 24 HOURS.

SHOULD YOU HAVE NO UNEXPECTED VISITORS, IT SHOULD NEVER BE CUMBERSOME TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND NEVER A SURPRISE. SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LIST, THEY CANNOT JUST RANDOMLY SHOW UP, AT LEAST THAT'S HOW I FEEL

ABOUT IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> SO I, I AGREE WITH ALL FOUR OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS IF WE WERE NOT TO MAKE ANY OF THOSE CHANGES, SO THE WAY THE POLICY READS NOW, IN THE SECTION IN, GREEN, UNDER DISTRICT COMMITTEES THAT STARTS WITH THE ROLE OF A BOARD MEMBER, WE'RE ASSUMING THIS BOARD MEMBER IS APPOINTED TO ATTEND THIS MEETING, DOWN NEAR THE BOTTOM OF THAT PARAGRAPH, WHEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT COMPENSATION, THE SENTENCE STARTS WITH ANY BOARD MEMBER ATTENDING AND I THINK IF WE'RE REQUIRING IT TO BE APPOINTED, WE JUST SAY BOARD MEMBERS ATTENDING ON THEIR OWN AND REMOVE THE WORD ANY.

BUT AGAIN, I WOULD, IF WE'RE MAKING THOSE CHANGES THAT WILL NOT APPLY. AND THEN, SAME WITH MY OTHER CLARIFICATION I FIND IT PRETTY TEDIOUS THAT THE BOARD MEMBER THAT ATTENDS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SHARE ANY INFORMATION EXCEPT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, YET ONLY ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO CALL AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

SO WHAT'S THE POINT OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION? SO I THINK OF GETTING THAT APPROVAL TO SHARE THE

INFORMATION WOULD BE IDEAL. >> WELL I THINK AND TO HELP ADDRESS THAT H I THINK THE 10,000 VIEW OF THIS WAS THAT ATTENDEES, SURELY THEY MAKE NOTES BUT WHAT THEY MAY COMMENT ON IN THE FUTURE, IN THIS TYPE OF MEETING, WOULD BE ABOUT THE ASSURANCES THAT THINGS WENT AS THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO GO AND NOT DIVULGING DETAILED INFORMATION. THAT WOULD BE RESERVED FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, OPPORTUNITIES.

SO THAT'S THE REASON IT'S WRITTEN THE WAY IT IS.

BECAUSE THE, THE ADMINISTRATION VIEW IS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE THERE AS OBSERVERS TO ENSURE THE PROCESS IS GOING AS IT IS INTENDED TO GO AND NOT TO REPORT BACK ABOUT THINGS THINGS

THAT WERE DISCUSSED VERBATIM. >> SURE.

>> THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I THINK IT PUTS US IN A DIFFICULT POSITION, IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD IF WE CANNOT CALL A EXECUTIVE SESSION AND WE CANNOT EMAIL IT.

>> DR. ALBRIGHT? >> NO COMMENTS.

>> LATRICA SCHOOLEY. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF OPEN DOOR LAW IF WE WERE TO HAVE THE PRESIDENT ASSIGN A PERSON TO COMMITTEES BECAUSE SHE IS A PRESIDING OFFICER AND IT STATES, A GOVERNING BODY INCLUDES NIZ COMMITTEE APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNING BODY ITS PRESIDE ISING OFFICER TO TAKE OFFICIAL ACTION UPON BUSINESS HAS BEEN DELEGATED AND RECEIVING INFORMATION AS

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OBSERVER IS A REACTION. I'M GOING TO ASK ABOUT THIS

SPECIFIC REQUEST I HAVE. >> SO IS WOULD REQUEST THAT ADMIN WOULD PRESENT ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD AS THEIR SELECTION AND, SHCA SO THERE WOULD BE AN EVEN SELECTION IN THERE WATCHING OR OBSERVING THE MEETINGS.

THAT WOULD BE REQUESTED AMENDMENT?

>> WHAT WOULD BE MY WHAT? >> THAT WOULD BE THE REQUESTED

AMENDMENT. >> THE REQUEST, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE WHETHER THE DETERMINATION NEEDS TO BE MADE WHETHER ANY BOARD MEMBER CAN COME. I THINK THAT SHOULD REST THERE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO GET INTO HSA PICKING SOMEBODY.

WE HAVE OTHER MEETINGS, WHO IS PICKING THAT VENUE VERSUS NOT.

I THINK THAT THE CLEANER PROCESS AND SPELLED OUT FOR EVERYONE IS THAT, WHETHER IT'S ONE OR TWO OR ANY FIRST COME FIRST SERVE WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE OF ALL THE OPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT OVER A SELECTION

BY TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS. >> IF THE POLICY GOES AS IT IS WRITTEN, IT BECOMES A PUBLIC MEETING, MEANING THAT, SIMILAR TO FACILITIES AS WELL AS POLICY, IT WOULD BE OPEN TO MORE PEOPLE THAN JUST, WHO WAS AT THE BARGAINING TABLE ADMINISTRATION AND HSCA. AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A ROUTE THAT WE WANT TO GO DOWN IF THAT'S HOW THE POLICY IS WRITTEN. BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN AND OBSERVE THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN.

>> IF I CAN SPEAK TO THAT, THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU SIDED, WE DO HAVE MR. LOOKING INTO THE VALIDITY IF IT DOES IN FACT VIOLATE OPEN DOOR LAW OR NOT. HE AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, THEY'RE NOT APPOINT ING THE ENTIRE COMMITTEE BUT I CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A QUESTIONS AND HE WAS GOING TO, REACH OUT TO THE PUBLIC ACCESS COUNCIL FOR A

RULING ON THAT. >> SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS THAT SUSAN TOMAS PRESENTED AND THE AMENDMENT THAT SARAH PARKS REESE PRESENTED.

>> CAN WE FINISH DISCUSSION FIRST, DO YOU MIND.

>> CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING, I BROUGHT THIS UP IN POLICY COMMITTEE AFTER IT WAS ALBRIGHT WAS REFLECTING ON THIS.

AND IS DO THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW REGARDLESS THAT THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST TWO BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT.

JUST FOR A VARIETY OF PERSPECTIVE, WE KNOW THAT WE CER VAOEF REALITY IN DIFFERENT WAYS, SO HAVING TWO BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT REGARDLESS OF THE MEETING IS ALWAYS GOOD FOR BEING ABLE TO FACT CHECK EACH OF US, WE ALL HEAR AND SEE DIFFERENT THINGS AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

SO CROSS-REFERENCE THOSE THINGS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE

IMPORTANT. >> BEN ORR?

>> I'VE BEEN NERVOUS ABOUT THIS POLICY KIND OF FROM THE ONSET.

I UNDERSTAND THE, THE DESIRE OF IT IS TO HAVE MORE OPENNESS FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO SEE THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AS FAR AS COMMITTEES AND SOME OF THE INTERNAL THINGS AND INSURANCE MEETINGS. I DO WORRY THAT IT GETS TOO INTO THE WEEDS FOR US, EVEN OUR MERE PRESENCE, AT COMPANIES I'VE WORKED AT, WHEN MEMBERS OF A BOARD, ENTER A MEETING, EVERYTHING CHANGES A LITTLE BIT EVEN IF WE'RE SILENT OBSERVERS.

I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT TRIES TO LIMIT

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THAT OBSERVATION ONLY, SOME LEGAL CLARIFICATIONS, THAT THERE IS ALWAYS YOUR AUTHORITY, I THINK IS EITHER AS PRESIDENT TO LIMIT THINGS BASED ON LEGAL NECESSITY.

SO SIM A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

IT HAS NOW WORKED THROUGH THE CORRECT PROCEDURE.

WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT EARLIER, AS FAR AS HAVING GONE THROUGH THE COMMITTEE FIRST READ, SECOND READ AND I KNOW THERE IS AN EAGERNESS TO GET THIS DONE.

THERE WERE COMMENTS LAST TIME ABOUT BEING DELAYED AND PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO BRING THIS FORWARD.

TO ME, BETWEEN ALL THOSE THINGS, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYMORE QUESTIONS. I WILL STILL SAY IT, IT DOES, IF YOU READ THIS, IT IS STILL OPEN TO INTERPRETATION AS I MENTIONED WHEN WE FIRST WENT THROUGH THIS.

WE MAY NOT BE SITTING IN THESE SEATS, WE'RE CERTAINLY YEARS TO COME, WE WILL NOT BE SIT ISING IN THESE SEATS AND EVERYTHING CAN INTERPRET THIS AT DIFFERENT TIMES, THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT PRESIDENTS AND EVEN SUPERINTENDENTS, IMAGINE THAT.

BUT AS FAR AS RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS AS BEST AS WE CAN GET IT IF THE INTENT IS REALLY TO GIVE BOARD MEMBERS MORE ACCESS TO OPERATIONS AND INTERNAL WORKINGS OF THE DISTRICT WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD THING.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I DO HAVE A, A CAUTION FEELING BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL WE, UNTIL WE MAKE A MOTIONS TO VOTE HERE

IN A MOMENT. >> DAWN LANG.

>> I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE POLICY PERIOD.

BUT I'M, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH HOW IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN.

IT'S SUPPORTED BY HSE A AND IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS COLLABORATION BETWEEN TWO SIDES WITH THE BOARD AND HSEA, I THINK WHEN WE STEP IN TO THE REALM OF ADMINISTRATION AND SITTING CONFIDENTIAL MEETINGS, WE KNOW THAT INFORMATION BLEEDS OUT, WHETHER WE AGREE TO CONFIDENTIAL OR NOT, IT HAPPENS.

MY CONCERN TO CONTINUE TO GO DO IT AND RECOMMENDED INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD, IT'S NOT TIGHTLY WOUND, AND IT RISKS COMMUNICATION BEING DID SSIMINATED AND ALSO RISKS US COMMUNICATING BACK AND FORTH IF WE'RE NOT COMMUNICATING IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, WHAT WAS WH* THIS STATEMENT WAS SAID, WHAT DID THEY MEAN? THERE COULD BE A ON GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN BOARD MEMBERS JUST TO SEEK CLARIFYING INFORMATION ON A PARTICULAR MEETING.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT PUTS US IN A POSITIVE LIGHT WHEN WE MOVE OUT OF GOVERNANCE AND WE STEP INTO MANAGEMENT, OUR OVERSIGHT IS GOVERNANCE. AND WE CAN SPLIT HAIRS ON GOVERNMENT CODE. THIS BEYOND WHAT IS WRITTEN IN THIS POLICY, CLEARLY OVER STEPS THE LINE IN MY OPINION.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED

TONIGHT FOR APPROVAL. >> I'M TURNING IT OVER TO LEGAL

COUNSEL? >> I KNOW THERE IS A QUESTION AND HE'S IN THE PROCESS OF DEALING WITH THE PUBLIC ACCESS ON EXACTLY WHAT THE IMPORT OF THE CURRENT LANGUAGE WOULD BE.

THERE HAS BEEN A, A THE LAW HAS EVOLVED A BIT BACK AND FORTH ON, ON WHEN A COMMITTEE CAN BECOME OPEN, CREATE BECOME AN OPEN MEETING AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE A QUORUM OF THE BOARD THERE. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN OPEN QUESTION THAT HE'S RUNNING DOWN, AND SO, I DON'T, I DON'T IF YOU INTEND TO CREATE OPEN MEETINGS WITH THIS OR NOT, BUT, JUST KNOW THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE THAT IS BEING WORKED THROUGH.

>> MADAM PRESIDENT. >> WE HAVE A --

~>> I WOULD LIKE TO DO MY SECOND COMMENT PLEASE.

AS A SECOND ROUND GOES. SO FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE 100 PERCENT CLEAR, THIS IS A DISCUSSION IS TO NOT CREATE OBSTACLES BUT TO ENSURE THE POLICY LANGUAGE CLEARLY REFLECTS STRONG GOVERNMENT PRACTICES WHILE MAINTAINING ADMINISTRATIVE CLARITY. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY IS TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN AND GVE THEIR INPUT.

BUT I JUST FEEL THAT WE ARE ALL EQUAL BOARD MEMBERS, AND WE EACH COMMENT I MADE SPECIFICALLY PROVIDES BOARD GOVERNANCE, EQUAL VOICE AND CONFIDENTIAL AND NOT GETTING INTO THE WEEDS AND AGAIN THIS IS ONLY TOWARDS THE DISTRICT

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LEVEL TYPE OF MEETINGS THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT WE AS A BOARD, WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A VOTE FOR OR REGARDING FINANCIALS OR WHAT HAVE YOU. SO SILICON CONCLUDED BY SAYING, SINCE IT WAS NOT ON THE RECORD FOR LATRICIA I MOVE TO INCORPORATE THE LANGUAGE REVISIONS THAT I PRESENTED FOR SECTIONS 1 THROUGH 4 AS DISCUSSIONED.

--DISCUSSED. >> IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR SECOND ROUND OTHER BOARD MEMBERS? BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR.

BEN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING I THOUGHT?

>> NO, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT DURING THIS VOTE IF IT GETS A

SECOND. >> OKAY, GREAT.

MOVING TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

SUSAN SECOND. CALLING THE QUESTION FOR THE AMENDMENTS MADE BY SUSAN THOMAS TO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

>> YES. >> SARAH PARKS REESE.

>> YES. >> LATRICIA--.

SORRY JUANITA. >> DR. ALBRIGHT.

>> NO. >> SCHOOLEY.

>> YES. >> BEN ORR.

THIS IS FOR THE AMENDMENT? >> THIS IS FOR THE AMENDMENT?

>> I FEEL, STILL LEARY ABOUT THE POLICY BUT I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT HAS BEEN DELAYED BEFORE AND HSEA CAME UP AND MADE COMMENTS THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT AS THE POLICY WRITTEN OUT.

SO I'M A NO ON THE AMENDMENT. >> DAWN LANG.

>> NO. >> AND I'M A NO.

3YAY, 4 NO. FAILS.

MOVING ON TO NEXT AGENDA ITEM. >> NO.

OH MY GOSH, SORRY, SORRY, I'M READY TO GO.

OKAY, MOVING TO THE ORIGINAL AGENDA ITEM, AS WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE DISCUSSION OPENING ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

>> HSEA DID SAY THAT AS WRITTEN AND ESPECIALLY SINCE THIS IS A GRAY AREA THAT DID NOT SUPPORT IT AS WRITTEN.

THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. >> TYLER CAN YOU PLEASE COME TO THE FLOOR? THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE POLICY WHAT WE'RE NOT SUPPORT OF IS IF THERE IS AN INTERPRETATION THAT THIS DOES MAKE THIS A PUBLIC MEETING THAT IS GOING TO BE MESSY, DURING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. BECAUSE, THAT'S JUST NOT A ROAD THAT WE WANT TO GO DOWN ESPECIALLY WITH THAT PARTICULAR MEETING. AND SO IF THE POLICY GOES THROUGH AS WRITTEN, AND IT MAKES THIS A PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE THE BOARD PRESIDENT IS ABLE TO APPOINT PEOPLE AS OPPOSE TODAY EACH SIDE OR WHOEVER, ELECTING, PEOPLE OR WHOEVER FIRST COME FIRST COME GETS TO GO, THAT IS A FAUCET

THAT HSEA WOULD NOT SUPPORT. >> THANK YOU FOR SHARING, THAT'S WHY I MADE THE AMENDMENT TO SUPPORT THAT.

THANKS TYLER. >> ANY FURTHER COMMENTS.

>> I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD WAIT FOR OUR LEGAL TEAM TO CONFIRM WITH THE PUBLIC ACCESS COUNSELOR AND WOULD I MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS VOTE TO A FUTURE MEETING UNTIL WE HAVE THAT ANSWER.

?FM SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FOR THE MOTION CURRENTLY ON THE FLOOR TO POSTPONE? SEEING THAT THERE IS NONE, WE'LL CALL ROLL CALL.

SUSAN THOMAS. >> THE ROLL CALL IF THIS IS POSTPONE. AND I WOULD SAY YES.

>> SARAH PARK REESE. >> YES.

>> DR. ALBRIGHT. >> YES.

>> SCHOOLEY. >> YES.

>> BEN ORR. >> AGAIN, I, EXPLAIN MY VOTE SLIGHTLY, I'M CONFUSED, WE'VE HAD THIS EXTREME URGENCY TO WORK THROUGH THIS POLICY AND NOW WE'RE HAVING MOTIONS TO POSTPONE IT AGAIN, WE HAD HSEA SAY THEY LIKE THE POLICY DURING PUBLIC COMMENT. I WILL SAY NO TO POST OWNING.

>> DAWN LANG? >> I ECHO THE SAME FRUSTRATION AS BEN BUT I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS A LEGAL COMPONENT TO

IT SO I SUPPORT POSTPONING. >> AND I'M A YES, SO IT PASSES

6-1 TO POSTPONING. >> IF WE GET A RULING ON THAT BEFORE POLICY, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO POLICY COMMITTEE FOR AN

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UPDATE AND POTENTIAL REVISIONS AND THEN BACK HERE IN ON APRIL

15TH. >> GREAT THANK YOU.

>> IF ALL THAT WORKS RIGHT. >> MOVING ON TO 11.01 FIRST

[11. Information Items ]

READING BY DR. KEGLEY. >> I'VE GOT A LITANY OF POLICIES TO UPDATE AND REVIEW WITH YOU.

EQUAL EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY, J.1000 NO CHANGES JUST AN UPDATE OF THE DATES. J3.00 STUDENT ATTENDANCE, ADDING TWO SECTIONS, ONE COMEPUSERY SITED IN THE PROPOSAL AND ATTENDANCE SPECIFIC TO EACH SCHOOL MAY BE FOUND IN STUDENT HANDBOOKS. J3.01 ENTRANCE AGE REQUIREMENTS, NO CHANGES SUGGESTED HERE EXCEPT AN UPDATE OF DATES. J3.03, PLACEMENT OF THE TRANSFER AND AGE OF THE STUDENT. J305 AT MISSION OF FOREIGN EXCHANGE STUDENTS, NO CHANGES. J3.06, ASSIGNMENT OF STUDENTS TO SCHOOLS. I CANNOT READ THROUGH THIS BUT WE'VE UPDATED THE LANGUAGE WHICH IS WHAT IS WRITTEN THERE IN GREEN WELL MY COPY IS GREEN BUT.

AND THEN, THE FINAL ONE IS J0.01 STUDENT DRESS AND GROOMING, CHANGE OF LANGUAGE AND UPDATED TEXT WITH STRIKE THROUGH AND NEW LANGUAGE. I WILL TAKE THESE, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT I'LL TAKE THESE TO OUR NEXT POLICY

COMMITTEE MEETING FOR REVIEW. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

FROM THE BOARD. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER IN POLICY, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE EARLY AND ENTRANCE REQUIREMENTS AS JUST AS WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE AND EVERYTHING, IT OBVIOUSLY, IT APPEARS OUR PROCEDURES ALLOW FOR AN APPEAL PROCESS FOR EARLY ENROLLMENT IF. WORKDAY IS FROM 8-1 TO 9-30.

THAT SCHOOLS ARE ALLOWED TO COLLECT ADM, SO I JUST WONDERED IF WE HAVE CONSIDERED OR IF WE MIGHT CONSIDER NOT REQUIRING AN APPEAL PROCESS? AND OPENING THAT DATE UP? IT'S MESSY AND SCARY FOR TEACHERS.

I KNOW, BUT, I KNOW OTHER DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE HAVE HAD LIKE TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT. JUST SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT

AND THINK ABOUT IN POLICY. >> OKAY, I'LL MAKE A NOTE OF IT.

THANK YOU. >> CLOSING DISCUSSION MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. 11.02, THE APEX CONTRACT REVIEW.

>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO UPDATE WHERE THINGS STAND WITH APEX CONTRACT AND THE WORK THEY'VE DONE AND AS YOU ANNOUNCED, JIM IS WITH ME TODAY, RIGHT BEHIND ME, OUR CHIEF STRATEGY OFFICER AND NOAH PRESIDENT AND COO OF A PEX AS AN ADVISORY WITH APEX AS WELL.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE THEM COMING. I'M GOING TO KICK THIS OFF AND HAND IT TO JIM AND TAKE QUESTIONS AT THE END.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH ABOUT 10 SLIDES, IF WE CAN HOLD FOR QUESTIONS UNTIL THE END, MANY MAY BE ANSWERED.

AT OUR REQUESTS I ADD THE APEX TEAM TO SHARE THE SUCCESS SXZ PROVIDE A OVERVIEW AND DISCUSS THE WORK THAT IS ON GOING AND THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REVIEW TIMELINE AND COSTS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. I'LL HAND IT OVER TO JIM AND

CONCLUDE AT THE END. >> THANK YOU T JIM.

DR. KEGLEY CONGRATULATIONS ON THE APPOINTMENT.

BOARD MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. AS TIM MENTIONED, I'M GOING TO DO A QUICK REVIEW WITH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH HAMILTON EAST

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EARN. I'M ALSO ONE OF THE OWNERS OF APEX. AFTER MY REMARKS, JIM MENTION HE'S HAMMY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT SO AM I.

>> AT THE END OF THE MEETING. >> ABSOLUTELY.

APEX BEGAN TO WORK WITH HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN SCHOOLS.

APEX WAS SELECTED TO HELP DEVELOP COSTS AND RISK REDUCTION STRATEGIES THAT WOULD DELIVER NEAR TERM IMPACT WHILE, AT A TIME WHEN HEALTHCARE COSTS IN INDIANA ARE GENERALLY INCREASING AT A RATE OF 8 PERCENT ON AVERAGE.

MORE IMPORTANTLY WHEN A TIME WHEN THEIR OWN PLAN COSTS HAVE BEEN CLIMBING PARTICULARLY IN THE MEDICAL SPACE.

IN GREAT PART DUE TO A HIGH COST WITH SIGNIFICANT MEDICAL CONCERNS. WE SUPPORT A NUMBER OF SCHOOL SYSTEMS AND UNDERSTAND MANY OF THE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU FACE, AOUN --UNIQUELY AS A SCHOOL EMPLOYER. MANY OF US HAVE STUDENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE STAFF SO. WE'RE DEEPLY PASSIONATE ABOUT ENSURING YOU AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR YOUR TEAM. APEX IS THE ONLY CONSULTANT IN THE INDIANA TO HAVE IN-HOUSE SPECIALIZED CAPABILITY INCLUDING PHARMACY OPTIMIZATION AND HEALTHCARE RISK MANAGEMENT BOTH ARE WHICH FOC TUESDAYED THAT CAN CREATE A COST SAVING WHICH REDUCES COSTS IN THE SHORT-TERM AND INPROOFS YOUR RISK PROFILE IN THE LONG TERM. AS A FULL SERVICE CONSULTANT, WE HELP ALL OF OUR CLIENTS WITH BENEFITS DESIGN, PRO CURING AND MANAGING ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR BENEFITS AND A NUMBER OF OTHER SERVICES INCLUDING TRA --STRATEGIC MANAGE ACTION INSURANCE BROKERAGE, WELLNESS PROGRAMMING AND OTHER SERVICES.

OVER THE INITIAL 18-MONTHS OF OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH HSE, WE HAD A ACTION PLAN TO ADDRESS SOME INCONSISTENCIES.

WE'VE EVALUATED POTENTIAL CENTERS OF EXCELLENCE AND LAUFRNLD A DIRECT CARDIAC PARTNERSHIP.

WE CREATED A BENEFITS GUIDE FOR EMPLOY EYES WHICH HAD NOT BEEN AVAILABLE. WE NEGOTIATED REVISED STOP LOSS INSURANCE AND REVIEWED CLAIMS DATA AND IDENTIFIED DATA WHERE PROVIDERS ARE CHARGING MORE FOR APPROPRIATE CARE AND IDENTIFIED ALTERNATIVE TO SEE CREATE SAVINGS AND WE LEAD TEN IN-PERSON EDUCATION SESSIONS TO HELP SUPPORT EMPLOYEES WITH THEIR BENEFIT DECISIONS. WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESSES DURING THE 18 MONTHS AND WOULD I LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THEM. A KEY COMPONENT OF STRATEGY IS THE DECISION ON HOW TO STRUCTURE THE MEDICAL BENEFIT.

THE MOST COMMON DESIGNS, ARE THE PREFERRED PROCIDER ORGANIZATION OR PPO AND HIGH DEDUCTABLE PLAN, KNOWN AS HDHP, WE LOVE OUR ACRONYMS IN THIS WORLD, DON'T WE.

THE DISTRICT PREVIOUSLY HAD A PPO AND TWO HDH PLANS AVAILABLE AND WHILE ENGAGING APEX WAS MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENT TO SEE THOSE PLAN DESIGN TO CREATE AN EMPHASIS ON THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE FOR THE 2025 YEAR. APEX HELPED COMMUNICATE FOCUSING ON THE DECISION-PROCESS.

OUR TEAM PROVIDED IN-PERSON AND VIRTUAL SESSIONS WITH EMPLOYEES WITH THE FALL OF 2024. IN ADDITION, WHO ARE NAVIGATING THEIR PERSONAL DECISIONS. ADMINISTRATIVELY, APEX NEGOTIATED WITH SEVERAL OF YOUR VENDORS WITH A FOCUS OF ADMIN FEES INCLUDING A 2000 FEE CREDIT FROM ANTHEM AND ALSO WORKED WITH WITH THE DISTRICT VENDORS TO ALIGN ALL PRODUCTS AND RENEWAL TO STREAMLINE THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AND ALSO SIMPLIFY THE BENEFIT YEAR FOR STAFF.

WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE AGENCY ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM AND LEADERSHIP, WE IMPLEMENTED EXTRA TAOEJ TICK CHANGES THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO REDUCE HEALTHCARE COSTS WHILE STRENGTHENING THE PLAN SUSTAINABILITY.

THROUGH OUR EFFORTS, THE DISTRICT HAS REALIZED MORE THAN 1.1 MILLION DOLLARS IN PHARMACY SAVING COSTS IN THE FIRST 8

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MONTHS THROUGH WITH PROJECTION OF 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS TO BE SAVED BY END OF THE PLAN YEAR. THESE ARE REAL SAVING THAT'S CAN HELP OFFSET SMFT HIGH COST CLAIMS. WE'VE ALREADY STRENGTHENED YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH COMMUNITY HEADLIGHT WITH ATHLETIC TRAINING PARTNER.

ADDITIONAL SAVING PROGRAMS LIKE BENEFITS SMART, COMMUNITY HEALTH CARDIOVASCULAR AND BALANCE BLUE BOOK ARE BEING PRESENT ASKED IDA ADDITIONAL SAVING OF NEARLY 1.5 MILLION DOLLARS. WHILE ALSO TARGETING SAVING IN OTHER AREAS OF SIGNIFICANT SPEND LIKE CARDIO VAS DUE LAR AND SCHEDULE TAL HEALTH. --SKELETAL HEALTH.

BY REDUCING THEIR COSTS AND OVERTIME WILL HELP MITIGATE INCREASES IN INSURANCE PREMIUMS. BUT THE WORK ISN'T FINISHED.

WITH MEDICAL TRENDS HERE IN INDIANA OF AROUND 8 PERCENT INCREASES ANNUALLY FOR SELF FUNDED PLANS LIKE YOURSELF AND 13 PERCENT PHARMACY COST ALONE ARE RAISING AND ACA MARKETPLACE IS AVERAGING 16 PERCENT FOR THE 2026 PLAN YEAR.

WE'RE RECEIVING A PERIOD OF MEDICAL AND PHARMACEUTICAL ADVANCE THAT'S ARE IMPACTING COSTS AND WHILE THE AVERAGE PLAN EXPERIENCES ONE OR TWO OF MEMBERS WITH THESE CATASTROPHIC ISSUES, THE REALITY IS THE COST IS NOW EXCEED ISING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO MILLIONS PER CASE. IT'S DRIVEN BY HIGH COST MEDICATIONS LIKE CANCER INFUSION, GENE AND CELL THERAPIES AND INCREASE IN CONDITIONS FOR WHICH CARE IS BECOMING EVER MORE EXPENSIVE. IN HSE'S CASE A SMALL NUMBER OF HIGH COST CLAIMANT DRIVEN BY CANCER AND INFUSED MEDICATIONS, CONTRIBUTED 4 MILLION DOLLARS TO THE TOTAL MEDICAL BENEFIT COST INCREASE IN JUST THE PAST YEAR.

THE LEGISLATIVE REGULATORY IS ALSO CHANGING AS THEY CONTINUE TO STRIFE FOR GREATER TRANSPARENCY PARTICULARLY IN PRICE AND HEALTHCARE IN OUR NATION.

SXL TO ENSURE THAT IF IF FIDUCIARY ARE BEING UPHELD.

FINALLY IT SEEMS THAT WE CANNOT READ AN ARTICLE OR SEE AN ADVERTISEMENT OR LIKE MY PARENTS LIKE TO SAY, SHAKE A STICK WITHOUT HITTING A GP1. THIS MEDICATION IS TAKE ITING OVER THE DRUG BENEFITS. SOME ARE SAYING GLP113 PERCENT OF THEIR CLASS ALONE. AND THIS SPEND IS DRIVING THE PHARMACY COSTS TO BECOME CLOSE TO 50 PERCENT OF THE HEALTHCARE EXPENDITURE FOR EMPLOYERS. IT'S NOT JUST TAKING A GREATER PORTION IT'S EXPANDING THE PIE. APEX IS PARTNER WITH THE DISTRICT AND VENDORS TO SEARCH FOR A NEW STRATEGY TO CONTROL COSTS AND KEEP PRICES MANAGABLE AS POSSIBLE.

I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE TIM BACK. I KNOW YOU WANTED TO COMMENT ON

THIS SLIDE. >> YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF A IMPACT FROM A COST AND ALSO SAVING PERSPECTIVE. AS JIM DESCRIBED, JULY FIRST TO 2024 APEX BECAME OUR PARTNER AND HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR THE FIRST YEAR OF THE AGREEMENT, THE COST FOR THEIR SERVICE SOUTH --SERVICES IS 20,000. JIM CAN TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY BUT I'LL TRANSITION TO OUR CURRENT SPEND WHICH IS AS OF JULY FIRST, THAT AMOUNT WAS REDUCED TO A LITTLE OVER 7200.

PER MONTH. AND THE TEAM FROM APEX THAT THEIR YEAR-ONE EXCEEDED THEIR EXPECTATION AND WE RECEIVED NO CHARGE FOR THE MONTHS OF JULY AND AUGUST AND A SMALL DECREASE IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025 WHERE WE'LL CONTINUE TO PAY AS YOU SEE THE ONSCREEN. SO THAT MAKES FOR AN ANNUAL PROJECTED PREMIUM FOR THEIR SERVICES OF 72,,000 A YEAR.

TO PUT THIS IN A LIMENT OF PERSPECTIVE, OUR MONTHLY SPEND

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JUST FOR EXPENSES ALONE IS AT LEAST OVER 2 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BENEFIT TRUST. ALL OF THESE EXPENSES LIVE IN THE BENEFIT TRUST. THIS IS NOT OPERATION FUND NOR REFERENDUM FUND EXPENSES. A LITTLE BIT HISTORY HERE IN THE LAST YEAR, SINCE WORKING WITH THE APEX TEAM PARTICULARLY ON THE PHARMACY BENEFIT SIDE. THE COMPARISON THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT COMPARE FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO 2025 SO JULY FIRST TO JUNE 30TH AND TO OUR CURRENT TREND WHICH IS JULY FIRST TO THE END OF LAST MONTH OF FEBRUARY ON THE 28TH.

DURING THAT TIME AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES FOR THIS BENEFIT TRUST IS HSE SAW A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN CLAIMS COSTS AND WHAT I'M DEEMING CLAIMS IS EXPENSED SPENT TO OUR THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR ANTHEM.

AND ONE MISCONCEPTION AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT A MISCONCEPTION TO THE BOARD BUZZ FROM A PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE THAT ANTHEM PAYS ALL OUR BILLS AND THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT THE CASE.

ANTHEM SERVES AS A THIRD NEGOTIATING, THEY PAY THE NETWORK AND HANDLE THE BILLINGS AND SEND US THE BILL.

WE ARE SELF FUNDED. THE MEDICAL SPEND IN CLAIMS ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSE APPROXIMATES STOP LOSS COVERAGE HAS GONE UP IN THAT SHORT YEAR SPAN OF OVER 20 PERCENT.

SAID IN A DIFFERENT WAY, WE ARE AVERAGING 360,000 MORE PER CLAIMS MONTH AN A MONTH A MONTH BASE, THAT'S EQUATES TO 2.8, THESE ARE REAL DOLLARS 2.8 IN NEW EXPENSES TO THE BENEFIT TRUST PROJECTED OUT ON THE TREND THAT WE'RE ON, WE'RE GOING TO SEE 4.3 MILLION DOLLARS IN INCREASE COSTS JUST FOR CLAIMS ALONE. AND IF BEING SELF FUNDED IS WHAT WE ARE, THEY BLEED DOWN TO PREMIUMS FOR FUTURE YEAR AND INCREASE TO HAVE HIGHER PREMIUMS WHICH NO ONE WANTS.

THAT'S THE DARK CLOUD. HERE COMES THE SUNSHINE.

DURING THAT EXACT SAME PERIOD WHEN WE STARTED WITH NEW PHARMACY MANAGERS THROUGH THE WORK OF A APEX, IDENTIFYING THROUGH CAPITAL X, SPECIAL AND NON SPECIALTY.

AT A--PHARMACY CLAIMS DID THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

SO WE ARE DOWN 13 3000 A MONTH ABOUT 25 PERCENT ON PHARMACY SPEND. YOU HEARD JIM TALK ABOUT TREND, 14 TO 15 PERCENT UP, WE DID THE OPPOSITE AND WENT DOWN BY 26 PERCENT. THAT HAS RESULTED, ALL FEES INCLUDED IN TERMS OF THE PHARMACY, A REAL LIFE SAVING OF 1.1 MILLION DOLLARS. NOTHING IN OUR WORLD IS GETTING CHEAPER, SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS A TRUE SAVINGS THAT IS NOT FACTORING INCREASE IN COSTS IN DRUGS IT'S JUST WHAT DID WE PAY? SO WE'RE PROJECTED TO A SEE 12-MONTH SAVING OF 1.6 MILLION DOLLARS.

THIS ALSO CARRIES OVER A--OF COURSE IF I HAVE A CLAIM IN FEBRUARY IT'S NOT GOING TO HIT UNTIL THE MARCH.

SO OUR PREVIOUS PBM ENDED IN JUNE AND CARRY OVER IN JULY.

SO THAT 1.1 FACTORS NA IN AS WELL.

SO THIS IS REAL SAVINGS TO A PLAN AT A TIME WHEN MEDICAL SPEND IS REALLY NEARLY UNCONTROLLABLE.

SO OUR NEXT STEPS, NEXT STEP IS AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING WE WILL BRING THE UPDATED APEX AGREEMENT BEFORE THE BOARD TO REFLECT THE CHANGE OF A LITTLE OVER 7200 PER MONTH AND THAT IS AGREEMENT UNTIL JUNE 30TH OF 2027.

THAT WILL BE FOR APPROVAL AT THE NEXT MEETING.

THAT IS OUR PRESENTATION. WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS.

>> WE'LL GO IN ORDER, SUSAN THOMAS.

>> FOR ME, IT'S EASIER TO READ THIS.

IT'S NOT REALLY A QUESTION. I WAS HOPING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A WORK SESSION THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO TAKE A BOARD MEETINGS BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS BUT WOULD I NEED FOR CLARIFICATION. FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD. I'M GOING TO READ THIS H.I'M GOING TO READ THIS. I UNDERSTAND WHY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY MATTERSESPECIALLY WHEN BEER TALKING ABOUT TAXPAYER DOLLARS. I WANT TO THANK BOARD PRESIDENT TIFFANY PASCOE AND INTERIM SUPERINTENDENT FOR PLACING THIS

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ON THE AGENDA. THAT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT TRANSPARENCY AND OPEN DIALOGUE.

AS MANY PEOPLE KNOW ME, IN SERVE ISING IN THE BOARD, I BELIEVE IN DOING MY DUE DILIGENCE, AT THIS POINT, I NEED TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS THAT SPECIALIZE IN THIS FIELD. SO I WOULD ALMOST DIFFER TO THEM AND DO MY DUE DILIGENCE TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION AND LISTEN. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND IS THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR OUR STAFF STUDENTS AND TAXPAYERS. GIVEN THAT COMPLEXITY OF MANY LAYERS OF INVOLVED INCLUDING THE CONTRACT BUDGET IMPLICATIONS AND THE SERVICES THAT SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES AGAIN AS I STATED, I WAS HOPING FOR A WORK SESSION SO WE CAN GET A FULL UNDERSTANDABLE PRESENTATION AND IN THOSE COMPONENTS. WHILE I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE APEX AND THANKFUL ESPECIALLY HEARING THE SUCCESSES, I STILL SEE THAT THERE IS MANY LAYERS AND MY BRAIN KIND OF SPINNING HERE. SO AS IT IS A TOPIC THAT CARRIES SIGNIFICANT IMPORTANCE FOR EMPLOYEES AND OUR FAMILIES, MY REQUEST IS TO MAYBE CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE A WORK SESSION BEFORE NEXT MONTH'S CALL TO ACTION WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW THE LAWYERS AND INFORMATION AND MORE DISCUSSION SETTING. I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU DID PRESENT TONIGHT.

>> DO YOU KNOW PRESCRIPTION MEDICINES WENT DOWN?

>> YEAH, I'LL LET YOU SPEAK TO THAT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO THE MAIN REASONS ARE TWO-FOLD. THE FIRST ONE IS WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND INSTALL THE TWO PHARMACY MANAGER MOLD. A KEY PART HOW WE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM WAS TO INCREASE AND IMPROVE THE PRICING TERMS IN THE COMFORT. WE LEVERAGED OUR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE AND YOUR BUSINESS, TO SECURE A MORE FAVORABLE FINANCIAL CONTRACT. SO THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING HIGHER LEVELS AND GUARANTEES AND HIGHER LELZ OF REBATES --LEVELS OF REBATES. THE SECOND POINT IS, AS A PART OF THE PROCESS, WE ALSO ENCOURAGE AND ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTED INCORPORATING PHARMACY MANAGER THAT DO NOT TAKE A MAXIMIZE REBATE STRATEGY. REBATES ARE LIKE CRACK COCAINE TO MANY PARTICIPATES IN THE DRUG DISTRIBUTION AND BENEFIT PROCESS. THE PROBLEM IS THEY CREATE MISS ALIGNED BENEFITS. INSTEAD WE ENCOURAGED A BALANCE BETWEEN OP MIEZING REBATES BUT REALLY SEEKING TO CREATE THE USE OF THE LEAST COSTS MOST CLINICALLY APPROPRIATE MEDICATION FOR EACH CASE. WHICH IN SOME CASES MEANT MOVING INDIVIDUALS FROM A BRANDED MEDICATION TO A GENERIC MEDICATION WHERE IT WAS THE SAME MEDICATION BUT NO REBATE.

SIMILARLY A LOT OF THE SAVING CAME FROM THE HIGH COST DRUG WHICH IS MANAGED BY ARCO MEETES. THEY LOOK FOR A BIOSIMILAR WHICH IS A PROTEIN INSTEAD OF A CHEMICAL.

AND THERE ARE SOME IN THE MARKET THAT YOUR PRIOR PBM DID NOT ENCOURAGE THE LIST OF. ACTUAL PERFORMANCE IS WE HAVE BETTER FINANCIAL TERMS WHERE REBATES ARE ELIGIBLE BUT WE ALSO HAVE TWO PARTNERS THAT ARE DRIVERS TOWARDS LOWER NET COST.

>> OKAY, SO THIS IS A REALLY, BECAUSE I'M LIKE SUSAN SAID, THIS IS NOT WHAT I DO, IF I AS A PATIENT, AM A TEACHER PREFER TO HAVE THE NAME BRAND, CAN I STILL DO THAT?

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>> SO, MY ANSWER IS, IT DEPENDS A LOT ON THE PARTICULAR PRODUCT, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

AND MY WIFE HAS A APPROVED FOR ME TO SHARE THIS SO I'M NOT VIOLATING HIPAA, LET'S BE CLEAR. BUT SHE SEVERED FROM THYROID CANCER AND SHE USED A PRODUCT SINTROYED.

IT'S DOSED IN MICRO GRAM NOT MILLI GRAM AND THERE IS A FAIR BIT OF DATA THAT SUPPORTS FROM THAT ONE MANUFACTURER THAT MICRO DOSING, CAN VARY EVEN THOUGH THAT IT'S THE SAME DOSE.

SO IN A CASE LIKE THAT, THEY CAN MAKE A REQUEST FOR EXCEPTION AND IF CLINICALLY PROVEN, THEY CAN GET THE EXCEPTION. BUT IN OTHER, THE ANSWER IS NO, YOU HAVE TO GET THE ARRANGEMENT. SO THERE IS AN ESCALATION PROCESS, YOUR PHYSICIAN CAN BECOME INVOLVED BUT IF IT'S NOT CLINICALLY SUPPORTED AS THE REASON WHY UZ NEED THAT MEDICATION IN THAT EXACT FORM OR THAT BRAND, THEN YOU'LL BE DECLINED. IN THE CASE OF BIOSIMILARS, LET'S TALK ABOUT A BRAND LIKE HUMERIA, MANY PEOPLE TRY TO STAY ON OT BRANDED HUMERA. CLINICAL EVIDENCE SHOW THAT FOR THE CONDITIONS THAT HUMERA IS APPROVED TO TREAT, THE BIOSIMILARS ARE AFFECTIVE 90 PERCENT OR MORE OF THE TIME.

SO YES, THERE MAY BE AN AN OCCASION WHERE YOU TRY THE HUMERA IS--BUT IT'S RARE. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR

QUESTION. >> OKAY, AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS MORE FOR TIM. BACK IN 2024, I GUESS, DID WE HAVE AN RFP FOR THIS PROCESS BEFORE WE BROUGHT APEX ON?

HOW DID THAT PROCESS WORK? >> SO YEAH, FIRST, 2024 IS ALSO THE START OF MY WORK HERE IN THE DISTRICT AND THEIR PRTNERSHIP ALIGNED WITH THE WORK WE STARTED WITH.

IT WAS NOT A FORMAL RFP THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE TO MY KNOWLEDGE. IN CONSULTATION, WITH MEMBERS OF THE BENEFIT COMMITTEE AS THEY WERE SHARING SOME FRUSTRATION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL, THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH ME BUT NO RFP.

>>ED --WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THREE-YEAR AGREEMENT.

WHAT IS COMING IS THE RECOMMENDATION IN FEE STRUCTURE THAT WOULD CONCLUDES ON JUNE 30TH OF 2027 IN THE CURRENT AGREEMENT. WE WOULD THROUGH A PROCESS BE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT BUT THAT IS WHAT IS COMING BEFORE THE BOARD.

>> GOT YOU, THANK YOU. >> DR. ALBRIGHT.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BUT IN MY DAY-TO-DAY LIFE, I PRESCRIBE A LOT OF MEDICATIONS AND I'VE BEEN IMPRESSED THAT YOU'RE BEEN ABLE TO DECREASE THE MEDICATION PRICE.

I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE. ALSO I THINK A BIG, A BIG INITIATIVE HAS BEEN THE ROAD SHOW ET CETERA BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, EXPANDED OR THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX HOW TO HELP HSE EMPLOYEES UNDERSTAND HOW SAVINGS CAN BE ATTAINED AND HOW THAT TRICKLES TO THEM WHEN IT COMES TO PREMIUM COSTS. I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND IT'S A HARD JOB TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BUT THAT IS PROBABLY WHERE WE CAN SEE BIG SAVINGS AS WE HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND EVEN BRAND VERSUS GENERIC WHICH IS

EQUIVALENT. >> CAN I MAKE A COMMENT TO THAT, WE DID HOLD A BENEFITS COMMITTEE MEETING YESTERDAY AND ONE IS WHAT OTHER OTHER STRATEGIES, SO WE'RE WORK WITHING VARIOUS ENTITIES AND WE'VE GOT IDEAS THAT WE'RE

GOING TO PUSH OUT. >> I THINK IT'S GREAT.

TINGE TAKES HEARING IT MULTIPLE TIMES, SOMETIMES.

>> LATRICA SCHOOLEY. >> I HAVE A FEW.

ENROLLMENT COMPANIES DO THAT QUITE A BIT.

IT'S NOT FOR YOU TIM. IN YOUR EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH

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OTHER LARGE EMPLOYERS OF OUR SIZE, IS IT YOUR TYPICAL ON BOARDING PROCESS TO BE SELECTED THROUGH A RFP PROCESS?

>> IN THE BENEFIT, IT'S LESS COMMON FOR EMPLOYERS OF YOUR SIZE TO RUN A FULL RFP, WE TYPICALLY SEE THAT AND SAY THE FORTUNE 500 LEVELS, THEY RUN PROCESSES IN THAT WAY.

TT NOT UNCOMMON BUT GENERALLY, IT'S MORE OF AN I AM FORMAL

PROCESS. >> IN THIS AREA, SORRY I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SORE THROAT TODAY.

>> I'VE BEEN DRINKING WATER MYSELF.

>> IN THESE AREA HAS IT BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE THAT THEY USE

RFPS. >> YES, IT'S MORE COMMON IN THE

EDUCATIONAL AREA. >> WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU ACQUIRE THROUGH COMPETITIVE RFP VERSUS A NO BID CONTRACT LIKE

ONE. >> SO PRIVATE SECTOR, WE HAVE MANY COUNTY MUNICIPAL SCHOOL AND LIBRARY CLIENTS.

DON'T ACCEPT THIS AS FACTS BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO GO BACK AND VERIFY.

BUT I THINK IF THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS, I WOULD SAY ABOUT 75 PERCENT HAVE BEEN AWARDED THROUGH DISCUSSION BUT NOT A

FORMAL BID PROCESS OR RFP. >> OKAY.

AND REGARDING THE CONTRACT, WHERE YOU SET IT UP WITH THE 20,000 CONSULTING FEE, WITHOUT THE OFFSET CLAUSE, IS THAT

COMMON? >> I'M SORRY?

>> THERE IS NO OFFSET CLAUSE WITH APEX?

>> I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE OFFSET CLAUSE.

>> THAT'S WHEN YOU GET COMMISSIONS, YOU OFFSET THE CULT CAN GO, THAT'S COMMON IN THE EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS?

>> SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT COMMON. WE ONLY HAVE A HANDFUL THAT HAVE STRUCTURE. MANY USE COMMISSIONS WITHOUT A DIRECT FEE PAYMENT AS A BASIS FOR COMPENSATION.

SO USING A DIRECT FEE IS IN A HYBRID FORMAT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO WE DO HAVE SOME WHERE WE SET A MAXIMUM FEE AND THEN WE USE IT AS AN OFFSET.

IN THIS CASE, AS TIM MENTIONED, WE DID HAVE WHAT WE BELIEVE WAS A REASONABLE FEE FOR SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE FIRST YEAR. AND WITH ADDITIONAL 70,000 OF COMMISSION THAT'S CAME FROM TT OTHER FORMS OF INSURANCE THAT WE RECEIVED COMMISSIONS ON SIMILAR TO YOUR PRIOR BROKER.

THAT NUMBER EXCEEDED THE LEVEL THAT WE THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE AND THAT'S WHY WE ISSUED THE INVOICE CREDITS THAT CAUSED THE FEE AND THE FIRST SECOND AND PART OF THE THIRD MONTH OF THE

NEXT YEAR TO BE ZERO. >> LET ME REWORD THIS.

WHAT I'M SAYING WHEN YOU HAVE A CONSULTING FEE AND OFFSET CLAUSE ARE POSSIBLE, OUR PREVIOUS BROKER DID HAVE OFFSET.

>> AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THEIR CONTRACT.

>> SO THAT'S TYPICAL IF YOU'RE FEES AND COMMISSIONS, AND YOU'RE RIGHT MOST EMPLOYERS DO COMMISSIONS ONLY.

SO THAT'S THE COMMISSION AND THE CONSULTING FEES ARE

UNCOMMON. >> ALL I WOULD SAY, IT HAS NOT BEEN OUR EXPERIENCE BUT I RESPECT THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN

YOUR EXPERIENCE. >> OKAY, AND AS FAR AS THE RX THING, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU WERE TALKING THE GLP1.

I'M AWARE THAT ON OUR SPECIFICALLY INSURANCE COMPANY, WE DON'T COVER ANY WEIGHT LOSS COSTS.

>> ACTUALLY IT DOES, BECAUSE GLP1 OTHER USE WHICH PREDATED WEIGHT LOSS IS DIABETES. AND GLP1 HAVE SHOWN THAT ARE EXTRAORDINARY AFFECTIVE IN DIABETES REPLACE ING OLDER COSTS OLDER COSTS MEDICATIONS. WE'VE SEEN OLDER PLANS EXPERIENCE A GROWTH IN GLP1S EVEN WHEN THEY'RE NOT BEING USED FOR WEIGHT LOSS AND THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE NOT GETTING THEM UNDER THE GUYS OF DIABETES WHICH IS PART OF THE PHENOMENA.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COST SAVINGS.

THE OTHER THING IS IS THE EMPLOYEE IMPACT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS SOME COST SWIFTING YOU SITE MILLIONS IN SAVINGS BUT I'M HEARING FROM EMPLOYEES AND THIS IS BEFORE THE SWITCH, THEY JUST PAID COPAY BUT NOW THEY'RE PAYING THE FULL COST UP

UNTIL THE DEDUCTIBLE? >> IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE RELATED TO THE PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER DOES NOT DEFINE THE CONTRIBUTION STRATEGY AND STRUCTURE OF BENEFIT PLAN. THAT WOULD BE PART OF HOW THE PPO AND THE TWO HEALTH PLANS ARE DESIGNED.

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AND SO, I WILL ADMIT, I DON'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHANGE FROM THE PRIOR PLAN YEAR THEN IN 2025 AND WHETHER THEY CHANGED OR I WOULD SAY THIS THOUGH, IF PEOPLE MOVE FROM THE PPO PLAN TO THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN WHICH I DO UNDERSTAND HAPPENED, THAT WOULD CAUSE THEM TO MOVE FROM A SITUATION WHERE THEY HAD A FLAT COPAY TO NOW THEY HAVE A DEDUCTIBLE THAT HAS TO BE SATISFIED SO THEY PAY THE WHOLE COST.

SO THAT WAS A CHOICE OF THE BENEFIT PLAN NOT RELATED TO THE

CHOICE OF PBL. >> SO PRIOR TO THE PBM CHANGE, THE PEOPLE IN THE HEALTH PLAN PAID COPAYS.

>> AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE RESULTED WITH HOW THE PLAN WAS

CONSTRUCTED NOT THE PBM CHANGE. >> OKAY, AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THAT YOU DID MENTION REBATING ON THE PRESCRIPTIONS.

HAS APEX RECEIVED ANY REBATES SINCE THEY ENGAGED IN A

CONTRACT WITH US. >> I CAN TELL YOU 100 PERCENT, IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COMPANY, WE ACCEPT ZERO DOLLARS OF FROM ANYONE IN THE PHARMACY SUPPLY CHAIN.

OUR FEES AND THE PHARMACY SPACE ARE TRANSPARENT AND PAID BY OUR

CLIENTS. >> AND HAVE YOU BEEN TRANSPARENT WITH THE DISTRICT AS FAR AS COMMISSIONS THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED, OVER RIDES AS A BOARD MEMBER, I HAVE NOT SEEN

ANY THAT. >> YES.

>> OKAY, SO IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS DO

SEE THAT BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS. >> I'LL WORK WITH TIM.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> BEN ORR. >> THANK YOU FOR COMING IN TONIGHT T I APPRECIATE THE EXPERTISE AND HAVING EVERYBODY HERE. ONE QUICK CORRECTION, MAYBE SUSAN MEANT DR. ALBRIGHT AND MS. SCHOOLLEY, I'M AN INSURANCE

AENT BUT ON THE LIABILITY SIDE. >> SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE HEALTH

LICENSE. >> IS DO, BUT JUST ENOUGH EDUCATION TO KEEP THE LICENSE, I DON'T USE IT.

BUT THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THIS HAS BEEN FANTASTIC FOR US.

WE HAD A SIMULTANEOUS HISTORY OF TRYING TO MAIN A PLAN AND A DISTRICT OUR SIZE AND DIFFERENT NEEDS, WE DON'T HAVE A SPOUSAL CARVE OUT, SO THERE IS A LOT OF PARAMETERS THAT MAKE THIS HARD TO MANAGE. BETWEEN YOU AND MR. BROWN, IF PUCK GET THE SELF FUNDED PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY REALLY AND FOR EVEN FOR OUR STAFF, IF THEY'RE

LISTENING. >> IT WAS 6,000 A MONTH VERSUS 20,000 A MONTH THAT VERY QUICKLY WENT AWAY AND NOW AS I UNDERSTAND, IT'S 60,000 VERSUS 7 2000 AND IN ADDITION WE'VE SAVED OVER 2 MILLION DOLLARS ON PLAN DESIGN GETTING PEOPLE TO MOVE TO HIGH DEDUCTABLES, AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE ADDED HSA CONTRIBUTIONS WHICH ARE THE AMONG THE BEST IN THE STATE, WE'VE COMPARED THAT MANY TIMES. BUT, I THINK PEOPLE MAY STILL BE MISSING, WHAT DRIVES OUR STAFF PREMIUMS IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE SELF FUNDED AND HOW MANY CLAIMS ARE WE HAVING AND HOW

MUCH THOSE CLAIMS COSTS. >> TIM IS GOING TO KEEP ME ON AS WELL AND YOU WILL WITH HEALTH WISE.

WE'RE ALL GOOD THERE. FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT AN EMPLOYER CAN OFFER INSURANCE TO TO ITS EMPLOYEES. YOU CAN BE FULLY INSURED, WHICH IS WHERE JUST LIKE WHEN I BUY MY HOMEOWNERS AND AUTO INSURANCE, IN YOUR LINGO, I PAY A PREMIUM AND THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ACCEPTS ALL THE RISK. SO IT'S INCUMBENT DO THEY SET A PREMIUM LEVEL ACROSS ALL THE PEOPLE LIKE ME THAT PAY, THAT WILL COVER THE COFS OF THEIR OPERATION SXZ WHATEVER PROFIT THEY BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT FOR THEIR BUSINESS.

ANTHEM, UNITED HEALTHCARE, CIGNA, THEY OFFER A FULLY INSURANCES OPTION. SO IF YOU WANT TO PAY AND

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FORGET IT ABOUT IT, YOU CAN MOVE TO A FULLY INSURANCES APPROACH. THE REASON THAT THOSE LARGER USE THE SECOND OPTION WHICH IS SELF FUNDING IS REALITY YOU'RE PAYING A LOT OF PROFIT IN THAT PREMIUM.

WE'VE ALL SEEN THE BUILDINGS THAT HOUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, THEY'RE DOING PRETTY WELL, I BELIEVE CVS HEALTH IS FORTUNE 4. IF IF YOU CAN TOLERATE THE RISK IS YOU KEEP THE PROFIT, YOU CUT THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION.

BECAUSE YOU ACCEPT THE RISK YOU'RE NOW THE INSURANCE COMPANY. NOW YOU WORK WITH AN ANTHEM OR UNITED TO ADMINISTER THE PLAN, YOU DON'T WANT TO ADJUDICATE CLAIMS, YOU DON'T WANT TO MANAGE APPEALS, YOU DON'T WANT TO SELECT WHAT DOCTORS ARE IN OR OUT OF YOUR NETWORK.

DR. ALBRIGHT MAY WANT TO DO THAT, BUT NOT OTHERS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT MOST SELF-FUNDED PLAN AND YOU LOOK AT COST OF PROVIDING THE HEALTH BENEFITS WHICH INCLUDES THE COST OF THE PLAN AND THE HOSPITAL AND DRUG AND THE COST TO ADJUDICATE THE CLAIM AND INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE YOU PAY TO THE VENDORS, YOU PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT PER ANTHEM SO THEY DO ALL OF THIS FOR YOU. THEY WILL DO THE WORK FOR YOU.

AND YOU PAY FOLKS LIKE APEX TO HELP COORDINATE THIS FOR YOU.

COLLECTIVELY, TYPICALLY, A SELF FUNDED COFS PLANS ARE 95 PERCENT DRIVEN BY THE CLAIMS THEMSELVES AND 10 TO 15 PERCENT BY ALL THE A OTHER AGGREGATE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH MANAGING A HEALTH PLAN. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN INCREASE AS TIM AS PROJECTED WHICH IS ALL IN, PLUS THE CLAIMS COST, THE BIGGEST DRIVER TYPICALLY IS THE CLAIMS COST THEMSELVES NOT THE ADMINISTRATIVE COMPONENTS. SO AS A MENTIONED IN YOUR CASE, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU HAVE A SMALL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS WITH MANY EMPLOYERS DO, WHO ARE BEING STRUCK WITH SOME OF THE MOST STRAJ I CAN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAN A PERSON CAN GO THROUGH AND BECAUSE OF THE AMAZING MEDICAL STUFF THAT CAN COME TO BEAR TO HELP THEM, THEIR COSTING A LOT OF MONEY AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR JUMPS ARE COMING FROM. YES, OUR FEE WAS HIGHER THAT YOU HAD PAID TO THE PRIOR BROKER.

THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT FEE, WE BELIEVE IS SUPPORTED BY THE DIFFERENCE IN CAPABILITY THAT'S WE OFFER WITH AN INNOVATIVE STRATEGIES THAT CAN CREATE SAVING IN THE PHARMACY WORLD OR CON IC HEALTH AND FIND THAT THERE ARE SOME DOCTORS THAT ARE CHARGING TOO MUCH AND HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THEM TO LOWER THEIR COSTS AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE JUSTIFICATION COMES IN.

WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENT FROM YEAR ONE TO YEAR TWO THERE WAS A HEAVY LIFT IN THAT YEAR. MULTIPLE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE NOW OPERATING IN. AND IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE STOP LOOKING STRATEGICALLY. AND IT ALLOWS US TO SUPPORT YOU WITHOUT THE COST. I'VE TRIED TO ANSWER A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS AT THE SAME TIME.

>> TIM? >> I WOULD WITHIN DARE TOUCH

THAT ONE. >> THAT WAS FANTASTIC.

AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY MY POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT END RESULT OF THIS, WHEN PEOPLE GET CONCERNED ABOUT THESE COSTS OR HOW DOES IT AFFECT THEIR PAYCHECK.

I DID A LITTLE BIT OF MATH AND THESE ARE BROAD NUMBERS BUT EVEN IF WE BROUGHT YOUR FEED DOWN TO ZERO DOLLARS, IT'S GOING TO SAVE EACH PARTICIPANTS LESS THAN 3 DOLLARS.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO KEEP A PLAN, SOLVENT.

THE ONLY WAY TO LOWER THAT IS, HEAVIER CLAIMS COST LESS.

>> AND IF I MAY, RIGHT. I MENTIONED A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES THAT THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE AND ADMINISTRATION OR IMPLEMENTING NOW. MANY ARE GOING TO TARGET THAT PIECE OF THE COST THAT MENTIONED IS DRIVING UP WHICH IS YOUR MEDICAL CLAIMS. WHETHER IT'S HEALTHCARE BLUE BOOK OR EXCUSE ME, THEY CALL IT A DIFFERENT NAME.

WHETHER IT'S THE BLUE BOOK WHERE WE'RE HELPING YOUR MEMBERS AS PATIENTS SHOP FOR HIGHER QUALITY LOWER COSTS OPTION WHZ THEY DO NEED A TREATMENT.

WHETHER IT'S THE CARDIAC CARE WITH COMMUNITY HEALTH WHERE IN THE PAST FOR YOUR CARDIAC COSTS SEEING A CARDIOLOGIST AND GETTING A PROCEDURE DONE, YOUR COSTS WERE COMING IN AT 280 TO 320 PERCENT OF THE MEDICARE REIMBURSEMENT.

UNDER THAT NEW ARRANGEMENT, THEY'RE CAPPING THE FIAT 195

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PERCENT OF MEDICARE. NOW ARE THOSE REAL SAVINGS YOU CAPTURED YET? NO.

BUT THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY GO TO A CARDIOLOGIST AND CUT THAT COST, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOUR MEDICAL CLAIMS START TO COME DOWN. THAT'S THE LONG PLAY HERE.

THE SHORT PLAY WAS THE QUICK FIX ADDRESS THE PHARMACY, TACK TLG THE MEDICAL CLAIMS IS A LITTLE TOUGHER BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE THE CANCER, THEY NEED THAT CARE.

AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, NO CARE AND SO THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES SO WE HAVE TO LOOK WHERE WE CAN CREATE ALTERNATIVES, THAT STILL BUT A LOWER COST AND THAT'S A

LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER GAIN. >> AND ALONG WITH THE SAME LINESED AND I'M STAYING ON ONE TOPIC BUT I THINK IT'S

IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE. >> I LOVE THIS TOPIC.

>> SO, THE ACTUAL REVIEW OF THE FUND ITSELF.

IS APEX PARTICIPATING IN THAT? HOW DO WE KEEP THIS THING SOLVENT, PREFACE QUESTION, IT'S HARD TO IDENTIFY WHERE IT CAME FROM BUT WE DID, I KNOW THE END RESULTS IS WE DID NOT RAISE RATES FOR EMPLOYEES FOR THREE YEARS AT A TIME WHEN EVERYTHING IS SKYROCKETING IN PRICE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS ADVISE FROM OUR PREVIOUS BROKER OR FROM OUR INTERNAL WORK? BUT WE DID NOT RAISE RATES FOR THREE YEARS.

THAT PUT US IN A BIND I THINK IT STILL NEEDS WORK.

CAN YOU SPEAK TO MANAGING THE ACTUALIARAL SIDE?

>> ABSOLUTELY, THE FIRST THING I WANT TO CLARIFY, I WAS NOT PART OF THE DECISION TO NOT INCREASE PREMIUMS. DON'T KNOW THAT THE REASONS FOR THAT EITHER.

YES, OUR TEAM HAS A HEALTHCARE ACTUARY AND WE HAVE FINANCIAL STEWARDS WHO WE COUPLE WITH OUR CLINICAL TEAM TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE POPULATION, WHERE DO WE PROJECT THE COSTS TO BE HEAD ANDING HOW CAN WE WORK WITH HSE AS A PLAN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXPECTED RISK IS IN THE FUTURE, WHAT FUNDING NEEDS TO LOOK LIKE AND WITH SOME OF THESE SAVINGS INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE LAYERING IN WHAT CAN WE EXPECT IN RELIEF OVERTIME AND HOW QUICKLY CAN WE GET THAT TO THAT SOLVENTCY LEVEL? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE RIGHTED IN THE NEXT WEEK OR MONTH AND PLAN YEAR BUT IT'S A APPROPRIATE GOAL AND THAT IS A SUPPORT AS A PART OF SERVICES

THAT WE PROVIDE. >> CAN I ADD ONE THING.

>> YES. >> THE THING I WOULD ADD, IT WAS A MONTH-LONG WITH OUR TEAM AND APEX AND US PUSHING BACK AND SAYING, THAT WE NEED YOU TO START.

THEY ENDED AT X WAY DOWN THE LINE, THERE WERE MONTHS, LITERALLY MONTHS OF WORK TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE HERE.

WHAT I CAN SAY IS WE APPRECIATE THAT.

WE COULD HAVE SAID WE'RE TAKING THIS FIRST ONE AND WE TOOK

ABOUT. TENETH EDITRATION. >> YES AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT. I KNOW IT'S VERY INTENSE FOR THE YEAR AND THEN YOU BOTH UNDERSTAND EACH AO, WHAT DO THEY EXPECT OUT OF THEIR PROGRAM AND EVERYTHING SMOOTHS OUT TREMENDOUSLY. I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL, AN ISSUE AND NOT TO MENTION THE SAVINGS WERE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THE DIFFERENCE IN FEES WAS UNDER 200,000.

IN MY OPINION WAS WORTH IT. THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAD, ONE MORE. AND I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND IT. I THINK I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE YOU ALL COMING HERE IN PERSON AND DESCRIBING THIS.

IT'S EXTREMELY COMPLEX, THE COMMUNITY DESERVES TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE ALL DOING, WE'RE TAXPAYER FUNDED AND WE'VE GOT A STAFF OF GREAT PEOPLE, WE NEED THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE LOWERING FEES AND COSTS AND ALL THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IN AN AREA WHERE THE ACTUAL CARE IS GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE ALL THE TIME. SO WE'RE MANAGING AS BEST WE CAN. AND AGAIN, HAPPY THAT WE HAVE THE THREE-YEAR RELATIONSHIP HOPEFULLY IT CONTINUES BEYOND THROUGH BUT AS YOU SAID, THERE ARE STILL CONTINUED.

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SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE TRYING TO CHANGE ANYTHING MID-STREAM RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDST OF ALL YOUR WORK THEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND WHERE IT WENT AND I, TRUST ME I'VE BEEN IN MY JOB FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW AND THERE IS BEEN TIMES WHEN I GONE IN AND CLEANED UP SOMEBODY'S ENTIRE PROGRAM AND FIXED EVERYTHING AND THEN THEY SEE NEXT GUY AND THEY SAY CAN YOU SAVE TEN PERCENT.

ONCE WE'VE DONE ALL WORK SOMEBODY CAN BEAT YOU A LITTLE BIT BUT IT'S THE WORK THAT GOT US THERE THAT WE APPRECIATE.

>> DAWN LANG. >> SO WITH THE HIGH DEDUCTABLE

PLAN, DID APEX CREATE THIS? >> NO APEX DID NOT, THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN WAS IN PLACE PRIOR TO OUR PARTNERSHIP.

WHAT THEY HELPED US DO, WHEN THEY SAW THE FOR AN 8.5 PERCENT INCREASE WITH THREE YEARS OF NO INCREASE, WE RECOGNIZED THAT WAS GOING TO BE INPACTFUL FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

WE INCENTIVIZED. IT DID NOT HAVE THE POPULARITY THAT IT DID OR DOES NOW. WE INCENTIVIZE THAT BY BOTH THE STRUCTURE. SO EMPLOYEES, FOR OUR FAMILY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW, MIGHT HAVE GONE FROM A FAMILY PLAN TO A PLAN 2 AND SAVED 5,000 DEPENDING ON OT EMPLOYEE GROUP. CERTAINLY DEDUCTABLES AND PLAN STRUCTURE IS DIFFERENT. WE SAW THIS AS AN AFFORDABLE

TOOL. >> GOT IT.

AND I THINK SOME BOARD MEMBERS HAVE TOUCHED ON THIS, JUST THE PAIN POINT OF NOT HAVING TO PAY FOR WHETHER IT'S DR. VISITS OR EVEN DESCRIPTION COSTS TO SATISFY THE DEDUCTABLE.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER COSTS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED.

LIKE THE CLINIC, DO WE NEED UTILIZATION? AND IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT OTHER AVENUES FOR COST SAVINGS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THERE IS, THERE IS GOOD UTILIZATION?

BY THE EMPLOYEES? >> YEAH, GREAT POINT.

THE CLINIC IS A FIX COST SO IF WE FULLY IET LIES.

--UTILIZE. WE SAW A PRETTY UP TICK.

AND WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THAT WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF FIRST STOP HEALTH WHICH IS A VIRTUAL BOTH MENTAL HEALTH AND URGENT CARE. WE SAW THEM COME DOWN TO A LEVEL THAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.

REVIEW FIRST STOP USAGE AND THOSE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WHICH ARE ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS THEY'RE REVIEWING THOSE ALONG WITH THE MEMBERS OF APEX.

AS A MENTIONED, YESTERDAY WE HAD THE MEETING, I APOLOGIZE FOUR MEMBERS OF THE APEX TEAM THERE PROVIDING INSIDE AND

EVALUATION OF THAT. >> GO AHEAD.

>> MAY I. SORRY.

>> YOU'RE FINE. >> I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS LIKE THE CARDIAC CARE WHILE THEY BENEFIT BY FIXING THAT CAP THERE IS A BENEFIT TO THE EMPLOYEES.

IT DOES REDUCE. SO A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE ROLLING OUT WITH THAT EYE TOWARDS HOW CAN WE HELP THE INDIVIDUALS LIMIT THEIR EXPOSURE IN THE DEDUCTIBLE

PHASE. >> GOT IT.

TOUCHING ON UTILIZATION, I KNOW THAT, IN A FORMER JOB THAT I HAD, CARDIOVASCULAR SERVICES AS INSURANCE CASE RATE PRODUCT, WHILE IT'S A FANTASTIC PROGRAM, THE PROMOTION AND COMMUNICATION OF IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. SO JUST, CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT HOW PROGRAMS ARE BEING PROMOTED INTERNALLY WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES. WHAT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS ARE IN PLAY. WE CAN HAVE THE BEST OFFERING IN TOWN BUT IF IT'S NOT UTILIZED, IT DOES NOT REALLY HELP KEEP THE COST OF PREMIUMS IF ANYTHING IT CAN DRIVE COSTS UP. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PROGRAM DESIGN BUT UTILIZATION IS A CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

>> YEAH, THERE IS NO DOUBT THIS IS PROBABLY THE TOUGHEST PART ON THE HSE SIDE OF OUR ARRANGEMENT.

TRYING TO ENCOURAGE AND EDUCATE AND PROMOTE THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE. OUR TYPICAL APPROACH IS ANYTIME A NEW PROGRAM ROLLS OUT, WE PUSH THAT OUT THROUGH OUR VARIOUS EMAIL AND APS TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

BECAUSE SO MANY NEW THINGS ROLLED OUT, JANUARY 1 OR IN THE

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CASE OF BLUE BOOK SHOPPING, WE HELD AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, WE HELD TWO IN-PERSON SHOWS, WE HELD A VIRTUAL SHOW AND RECORDED THAT. SO WE'RE REGULARLY, PROMOTING THE WEBSITE WHERE ALL THOSE MATERIALS ARE.

I MENTIONED TO DR. ALBRIGHT AT OUR MEETING LAST NIGHT FROM THE BENEFITS COMMITTEE, WE ROLLED OUT TWO OR THREE OTHER SUGGESTIONS AND WITH SUPPORTS WE'RE GOING TO DO MORE CONNECTIONS WITH THOSE FOLKS SO THEY AGAIN CAN SEE THE VALUE.

THE MOST POWERFUL IS WORD OF MOUTH, IT ONLY TAKES ONE PERSON TO SAY I WAS A ON A VACATION, MY CHILD GOT PINK EYE AND WITHIN 20 MINUTES I HAD DROPS TO PUT IN THEIR EYE AND IT COSTS ME NOTHING OTHER THAN THE $4 ATTRIBUTE.

--AIBT. ANTIBIOTIC.

SUPER STOP, FIRST HEALTH IDENTIFIED THE FIRST PHARMACY AND THAT PERSON HAD A SCRIPT WITHIN A HALF AN HOUR AND BEING SUPPORTED. I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY, IT'S THE MOST DIFFICULT PART OF THIS. THERE IS CERTAINLY OF PASSAGE TIME OF WE DON'T HAVE TO TIME. AND WE WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT

THAT THE TIME IS WELL INVESTED. >> OKAY.

CAN YOU COMMENT ON WHO ALL IS ON THE BENEFIT COMMITTEE?

>> GOOD QUESTION. YESTERDAY WE MET THERE WERE ABOUT 16 MEMBERS, SO MEMBERS OF THE APEX REPRESENTATION FROM PRESIDENT COMMUNITY HEALTH TEAM FROM THE CLINIC SIDE AND CARDIOVASCULAR. FROM HSE IS MY P MR. TAYLOR AND MYSELF. BOOTS ON THE GROUND DIRECTOR AND FOUR MEMBERS OF THE TEACHER'S ASSOCIATION THERE AS WELL. AND WE DO A LOT OF THINGS IN THOSE MEETINGS. WE TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET AND REVIEW FINANCES AND USAGE OF CLINIC AND FIRST STOP HEALTH

AND ALSO TALK STRATEGY AS WELL. >> GOOD, GOOD.

I'M GLAD YOU TALK ABOUT UTILIZATION.

ONE LAST QUESTION, CAN YOU COMMENT ON OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT YOU CURRENT WORK WITH TO PROVIDE SIMILAR

SERVICES. >> OUR INDIANA TOWNSHIP SCHOOLS THEY'RE THE MOST COMPARABLE, THERE ARE OTHERS BUT I DON'T HAVE THE NAMES AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> JUST TO SEE HOW WE RELATE. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

>> I JUST WANT IT SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ALSO SOME OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.

MAYBE THIS IS FOR TIM, CAN YOU OR YOURSELF, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT VERSUS WHAT REQUIRES AN RFP OR DOES NOT?

>> YEAH, I MAY RELY A LITTLE BIT ON MARK IN THE WEEDS OF THE LEGALITIES OF THIS. WHAT I WILL SAY IS, THERE ARE CERTAIN COMPONENTS AND CERTAIN COMPONENTS TO OUR BOARD POLICY.

MARK DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT THE DEFINITION?

>> YES, THE LOSS IS CERTAIN THRESHOLD WHEN I THINK YOUR POLICY HAS DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS. I THINK THERE IS OBVIOUSLY LAWS THAT SET A MINIMUM OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

>> THANK YOU. AND THEN ALSO TO, I ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH AND RESEARCHED WELL I STARTED TO AND SIX DIFFERENT SCHOOLS LOCALLY THAT UTILIZE YOUR SERVICES AS WELL.

SO WE'RE IN GOOD COMPANY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND ALSO JUST WANTED TO OBVIOUSLY, TIM THIS WAS BEFORE YOUR TIME, BEFORE YOU STARTED, BUT I WANTED TO CONFIRM, MAYBE DR. KELLY YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT THAT THIS WAS A JOINT DECISION

MADE BY ADMIN, IS THAT CORRECT? >> AGAIN, THIS PROGRAM WAS PUT IN PLACE THROUGH MR. MAPLES THE COMMENT MADE THERE WAS CONSULTATION WITH MEMBERS OF THE BENEFIT COMMITTEE.

THERE WERE CONSULTATIONS WITH BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAD EXPERTISE IN THIS SPACE. AND WE ENDED A CONTRACT SO THERE WAS NO CARRY OVER, WE DIDN'T LEAVE A CONTRACT EARLY OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURELE OUR PREVIOUS BROKER IN IN SPACE, STOPPED BEING PAID IN JUNE AND APEX STOPPED IN JULY.

SO IT WAS A TRANSITION IN THAT REGARD.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES.

MY QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FOR CLARITY, MADAM PRESIDENT. I LISTENED TO EVERYBODY, THIS IS WHY I WANTED A WORK SESSION BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO HOME. THIS IS A NEW FEE, WHAT IS OUR CURRENT FEE? THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF IT.

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HOLD ON AND I HEARD SEVERAL COMMENTS MADE ABOUT A COMMISSION AND CONSULTING AND I DIDN'T REALIZE OR UNDERSTAND, ARE WE STILL PAYING BOTH OF THOSE? AND LASTLY, IS, WHEN WE SAY CLAIMS, IF, IN THE PERFECT WORLD, IF NOBODY HAD ANY CLAIMS, WHICH WE KNOW IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IF THERE IS NO CLAIMS, IS THAT WHAT MAKES IT A BETTER THING? SO WHEN YOU SAY HIGHER CLAIMS, IT'S WHEN EMPLOYEES MAKES CLAIM THAT MAKES THE COST HIGHER.

>> I'LL TAKE THE FIRST ONE AND A A LITTLE BIT OF THIRD ONE AND

THEN HAND IT TO JIM. >> THANK YOU.

>> FROM JULY FIRST F2024 TO JUNE 30TH 2025, THE COST WAS 20,000 A MONTH. SO WE PAID A FULL ANNUAL 40,000.

BEGINNING JULY FIRST OF 2025, THE NEW FEE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BECAME 7232.28. HOWEVER AS WE MENTIONED, THERE WAS NO BILL IN JULY, NO BILL IN AUGUST AND PARTIAL DEDUCTION IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE THEIR WORK EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS AND THEN

IT TRANSITIONS. >> OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> BUT ARE THERE COMMISSIONS? >> YEAH, SO LET ME ANSWER THE COMMISSION FEE. AS, AS MS. SCHOOLEY TALKED ABOUT, IT'S COMMON IN THE BENEFITS BROKERAGE AND PROPERTY THAT WHEN A EMPLOYER PLOYS A PROPERTY, THERE IS A COMMISSION THAT IS PAID TO THE BROKER AS BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

IN THE BENEFITS, SPACE, TYPICALLY, YOUR MEDICAL BENEFIT WHICH IS IS THE PRIMARY ONE, YOU CAN ASK FOR THE PREMIUM YOU PAY OR THE ADMINISTER PIF IN THIS CASE, ADMINISTRATIVE FEE THAT YOU PAY TO BE NET OF COMMISSIONS, WHICH MEANS THERE IS NO COMMISSIONS BY ANTHEM OR UNITED AND IT'S ONLY THEIR FEE AND THEN WE PAY A DIRECT FEE WHICH IS 20,000 THAT BECOMES 7200. THERE ARE OTHER THAT WE OFFER, BENEFITS OR THOSE ARE CALLED ANCILLARY.

THERE ARE SOME COMMISSION THAT WHEN YOU PAY THE PREMIUM, THE BROKER GETS THE COMMISSION. IN THAT CASE, IT'S TYPICALLY NOT A REDUCTION ON A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR BASIS.

SO SUE END UP PAYING MORE BECAUSE THERE IS STILL A LITTLE RESIDUAL LEFT BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY THE BROKER.

SO MOST, I'LL SAY MANY, EMPLOYERS WILL ALLOW THE COMMISSIONS TO FLOW THROUGH TO THE BROKER AND ALL THEY ASK IS

FOR A TRANSPARENT OF THAT. >> OKAY.

GOT YOU. >> WHAT I'LL SHARE FOR YOU, FOR THAT FIRST FULL YEAR WHERE WE HAVE 240,000 WHICH WAS ABOUT 180 MORE IN DIRECT FEE, THAN YOUR PRIOR ARRANGEMENTS, WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 79,707 SO I'M ANSWERING A BIT OF MEMBER SCHOOLEY'S QUESTION IN COMMISSIONS THROUGH THE ANCILLARY BENEFITS AND OTHER PRODUCTS.

NOW MOST OF THOSE WERE THE SAME PRODUCTS OR VERY SIMILAR TO

WHAT WAS IN PLACE BEFORE. >> OKAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHAT WITH THE PRIOR BROKER RECEIVED BUT IN OUR INDUSTRY THERE ARE TYPICALLY STANDARD.

SO WE BELIEVE IT WAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF COMMISSION FOR THEM AS WELL. SO THE REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO ENGAGEMENT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION IS IS THE DIFFERENCE IN

THE FEE. >> OKAY.

>> DOES THAT HELP. >> IT DID VERY MUCH.

>> NOW I HAD A THIRD QUESTION. >> YOU HIT THEM ALL.

JUST A QUESTION THAT IF SOMEBODY HAS MORE CLAIMS IS

THAT WHAT MAKES THE COST HIGHER? >> YES, I'LL GIVE MYSELF AS AN EXAMPLE, I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CAUSE OF MY HIGH PRESSURE AND IT'S NOT COMING TO MEETINGS LIKE THIS.

ON I'M CONSUMING MORE HEALTHCARE, THANKFULLY FOR APEX,

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>> OKAY, AND ONE LAST QUESTION. I'M HOPING THAT YOU CAN GET THE INFORMATION WE NEED SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE OF NOW, THE BOARD DID NOT APPROVE THE CONTRACT SO IT'S NOT IN

COMPLIANCE. >> YEAH, IF YOU LET US KNOW WHAT YOU NEED, WE'LL BE PREPARED AND GET ANYTHING YOU

WANT. >> ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

>> LAST COMMENT, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU BOTH AGAIN.

I CAN'T THINK OF ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I AGREE THAT WE COULD SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO YOU HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET THOSE BACK TO US. I JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE CLEAR MOSTLY FOR THE COMMUNITY THAN ANYONE, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE BROKER FEE IS NOT WHAT IS DRIVING PREMIUMS FOR ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES. THE IDEA THAT IT WAS A 4 PERCENT INCREASE ON PREMIUMS AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING, IS FALSE.

THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. WHICH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN THE TOTAL FUND AND THAT FEE IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THAT.

SO AGAIN, WE CAN DEBATE WHETHER THAT'S JUSTIFIED OR SOMETHING, 60 TO 7 2000 BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION WHEN THIS COMES BACK FOR A VOTE AND I HOPE WE CONTINUE.

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THANKS. >> CLOSING DISCUSSION.

AND MOVING TO REPORT. SUSAN TOMAS.

>> I DO NOT HAVE A REPORT. >> SARAH PARKS-REESE.

>> SHOCKING, I WAS NOT PREPARED. SO THE HAM I --HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN, HELD THEIR LEGACY EVENT LAST MONTH AND TICKET SALES WERE UP 57 PERCENT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND THE SILENT AUCTION ALSO HAD RECORD HIGH TOTALS IN BOTH THE NUMBER OF BIDDERS PLUS THE TOTAL GROSS AND NET REVENUES.

THE LIVE AUCTION WAS UP FROM 2025 AND THEY SOLD ALL OF THEIR TICKETS FOR BUBBLES AND BLING. SO OVERALL A VERY SUCCESSFUL NIGHT, NEARLY 5,000 TICKETS SO JUST SHY OF THAT, ABOUT 4700 TICKETS WERE SOLD AND IF YOU MISSED IT, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD TIME SO YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY COME NEXT YEAR AND SEE WHAT

THEY HAVE IN STORE. >> DR. ALBRIGHT?

>> I THINK WE HAVE POLICY MEETING COMING UP ON THE THE 25TH, BECAUSE OF SPRING BREAK SO THAT WILL BE NEXT WEEK.

>> SCHOOLEY? >> WE DO HAVE YOU A MEETING

COMING UP NEXT WEEK. >> BEN ORR?

>> NO REPORT BUT I WANT TO THANK AGAIN DR. KEGLEY FOR JOINING US AND SERVING THE DISTRICT.

THANK YOU. >> DAWN LANG.

>> NO, JUANITA COVERED IT WITH POLICY.

>> I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT WE HAD A GREAT RUN FOR WITH MR. MAIPS AND I WANT TO THANK HIM. I ALSO WANT TO DR. KEGLEY FOR STEPPING IN AS INTERIM AND CARRYING THAT MISSION ON AS YOU HAVE IN THE PAST. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE SO FAR AND HAVE DONE IN THE PAST.

AND I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR CITY OF FISHERS AND CONTINUED SERVICE TO ENSURE THAT THINKER SERVE ISING THE SAFETY AND SUCCESS OF EVERY STUDENT.

AND I ALSO WANT TO SHARE THAT I ATTENDED THE LASAGNA REVEAL WHICH IS THE ROBOTIC REVEAL. WHICH IS A IMPRESSIVE, THERE IS A HANDFUL OF CHILDREN WHO CHOSE TO RELOCATE THEIR CHILD TO

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FISHER SPECIFICALLY FOR ROBOTICS PROGRAM.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID.

ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THERE WAS NOT AN OFFICIAL ASK FOR WORK SESSION REGARDING THE APEX AS A WHOLE AND THAT CONCLUDES MY BOARD MEMBER REPORTS, SUPERINTENDENT REPORTS.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT COMING UP ON MARCH 26TH, THERE IS THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS SPONSORING A TRAIL TO INDEPENDENCE TOUR TO KICKOFF CELEBRATING THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF OUR COUNTRY. AND BY DOING SO, THEY'RE HAVING FOLKS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND OTHER LEADERS GO OUT TO SCHOOL IN ALL 50 STATES AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT OUR DISTRICT WAS CHOSEN AS A LOCATION FOR THEM TO VISIT.

WE WILL HAVE MS. BRAUN, THE GOVERN'S --GOVERNOR'S WIFE OUT TO VISIT. AND THE TEAMS WILL BE SHARING THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH HER AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT SOME OF THE CLASSROOMS, THAT'S COMING UP ON THE MARCH THE 26TH AND REMINDER THAT SPRING BREAK BEGINS ON APRIL 3 AND CONCLUDES ON THE 10TH AND WE'RE BACK ON THE 13TH, I BELIEVE.

THAT'S COMING UP. AND AS AN ASIDE, LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO, THANK THE BOARD FOR THEIR TRUST AND MY ABILITY TO LEAD AND FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OUR TEAM.

WE GOT A GREAT TEAM. MOST OF THEM ARE OVER HERE BUT I APPRECIATE THOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM AS WELL AND WE

LOOK FORWARD TO THE SPRING. >> DR. KEGLEY WAS THAT

RIVERSIDE REAL QUICK? >> NO HSE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> THANK YOU. >> MEETING ADJOURNED.

THANK

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