[1. Meeting Opening]
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>> THAT EVENING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO TODAY'S WORK SESSION.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN INTO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[2. Information Items]
>> SO THIS EVENING, WE ARE DOING A BUDGET UPDATE FOR THIS COMING YEAR. AND WE ARE GOING TO TURN INTO
OUR CFO. >> THANK-YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT AND BOARD. MISSES MEDICINE AND DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS IS HERE WITH US AS WELL.
THIS IS VERY MUCH A JOINT EFFORT IF YOU WILL.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU -- YOUR PREFERENCE IS TO GO THROUGH AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY FIRST OR GO THROUGH THE PLAN AND THEN HIT THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH. I THINK I WOULD ASK YOU THIS AS A FIRST TIME I'VE DONE THIS WITH YOU ALL BUT IT IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE IT HERE IN THIS FORMAT IN TOTAL.
SO I GUESS WE WILL JUST START WITH THE PLAN.
I WILL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS FOR NEXT YEAR.
I THINK I SHARED WITH MRS. LANGE AS WELL AS MS. THOMAS THAT NEXT YEAR, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD I THINK IN THE PAST WE HAVE NOT SENT THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS IN ADVANCE. BUT I THINK THERE WAS ALSO BEFORE WE STREAMED BECAUSE THAT STARTED LATE LAST FALL AND SO IT IS A DIFFERENT VEHICLE. SO WE MADE IT OUT WITH THE 25 FOLLOW THAT WAY. WE WILL GET IT OUT, YOU KNOW, THREE TO FIVE DAYS IN ADVANCE SO YOU GUYS WILL HAVE SOME TIME TO REVIEW IT IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FORMAT.
SO -- OF THEM IN THE FUTURE. ALL RIGHT.
WOULD YOU -- I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.
SO THE FIRST PIECE OF THIS AND IT IS IN YOUR HAND OUT AS WELL WHICH GOES BACK, THE SMALL FONT. CAN RESUME AND A LITTLE? NOW YOU SEE WHAT WE HAD TO SCAN IT AND PRINT IT, BECAUSE IT IS SO SMALL. SO THE BUDGET PLAN OVERALL IS LITERALLY A PLAN OF I THINK THERE'S 40 FACTORS ON THIS SHEET THAT GO THROUGH. AND IT CONSIDERS ALL OF THE PIECES. SO YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS ACTION BY AN OUTSIDE GOVERNMENTAL BODY, IT CONSIDERS THE VALUE AS THE SECOND RALLY IN THERE AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE PUT IN VALUES OF FIVE AND A HALF FOR THIS YEAR. WILL, 2024.
AND THEN FOR OTHER HALF FOR THE FOLLOWING TWO YEARS.
IT GOES THROUGH AS WELL ABOUT THE EDUCATION FUND SALARY ADJUSTMENT WHICH IS .3. THAT IS WHERE WE INPUT THE BASICALLY COMPENSATION INCREASES AS PART OF NEGOTIATIONS.
SO WE PLUG IN THOSE PERCENTAGES AND AUTOMATICALLY ADJUST THE ENTIRE TEACHER SCHEDULE CONTEMPLATING ALL OF THE STAFF THAT ARE IN THE PLAN SO IT ADJUSTED FOR US.
FOURTH FACTOR IS NEW HIRES. THIS IS A -- ADJUSTED BASED ON INITIATIVES OR THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AS WELL AS OUR DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY AND CURRENT ENROLLMENT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A LITERACY COHORT TO THOSE TOO THAT -- MAYBE IT IS COHORT THREE IS NEXT YEAR.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF.
SO WE FACTORED THAT IN BUT MAYBE NONE OF IT I GUESS IF WE THINK THERE'S A GOING TO BE REDUCTION IN OVERALL STUDENT ENROLLMENT.
THEN THERE'S THE SECTION THERE YOU CAN SEE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION WHICH IS THE ASSUMPTION NUMBER FIVE.
ASSUMPTION SIX IS NEW HIRES THAT ARE SUPPORT SERVICES.
YOU WILL. WE WILL SEE THE CALL THERE'S TWOS FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS. THOSE ARE RELATED TO THE SCHOOL'S MENTAL HEALTH GRANT THAT COVERS THE COUNSELORS.
I DID HAVE AN AREA THAT COVERED SCHOOL SITE.
AND LEFT THEM IN THERE TO TOGETHER.
AND MADE IT KNOWN. BUT ALL OF THESE FACTORS AND ARE HAPPY TO READ THROUGH ALL 40 OF THEM.
THAT IS. THAT IS WHY I'VE ALLOCATED THREE HOURS. I KNOW YOU REALLY WANT TO HEAR MAY GO ON FOR THAT ENTIRE TIME. THEY ESSENTIALLY UPDATE THE BALANCE OF THE PLAN. YOU KNOW? IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE REFERENDUM PRESENTATION 80% OF WHAT WE DO IS IN THE EDUCATION FRONT.
SO A LOT OF THIS IS EDUCATION FUND HEAVY.
THE NEXT FACTOR, THUS, IT IS ABOUT SUPPORT SERVICES.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL HIRES PLANNED THERE.
AS WELL AS IN SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION.
THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL HIRES PLANTED THERE.
NOTHING IN BUSINESS OR IN A SUPPORT SERVICES.
ANYTHING IN THE FACILITIES WE NONCERTIFIED HARRING MAC IS FLAT. WE TOLD ALL LEADERS NOT TO COME IN THIS YEAR WITH ANY REQUEST FOR STAFFING OF THAT NATURE.
KNOWING WE WERE GOING INTO A REFERENDUM ON THE ONLY THING WE WERE STAFFING WERE CERTIFIED STAFF MEMBERS AND NO ADMINISTRATORS. YES, MA'AM?
>> SO IN HEARING YOU SAY THAT. SO YOU SAID GOING INTO A REFERENDUM YEAR, RIGHT, GOING INTO THAT, SO REFERENDUM IS
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GOING TO PASSED POSITIVELY THINKING.SO THAT BEING SAID, SOMETHING COMES UP IN MAY SOMETHING AND THEY NEEDED TO BE DOING SOMETHING, IS THAT WHEN THE CONVERSATION COMES UP, LET'S SAY FACILITIES MANAGEMENT OR MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING HAPPENS IN ANOTHER AREA THAT THEY WANT THAT THEY WANT TO -- THEY DO NEED TO HIRE SOMEBODY IN THERE BIG -- IT IS READDRESSED AND SAY, HEY, LET'S WORK ON A FUNDING AND REALLOCATE SOMETHING.
I MEAN, IT IS NOT A GUARANTEE. WE'RE NOT HIRING ANYBODY.
>> CHRIS WALKER YES BUT THESE ARE ALL ASSUMPTIONS.
SO WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS EVEN THE PLANS FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF ARE PLANNED. AND SAYS IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WHICH WE WILL POST TOMORROW WITH THE REST OF THIS, THEY ARE PLANNED AND BUDGETED BUT NOT FINALIZED.
SO THEY ARE IN THERE. WE ARE BUDGETING RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT WILL BE THE FALL OF 2024. SO WE HAVE TO PLAN THIS FAR AHEAD. BUT MAYBE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE BUDGET TO ADD AN ALLOCATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL TEACHER IN RESIDENCE PROGRAM BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE GONE TO DISCUSSION YOU. THAT WE HAVE GONE TO ANY OF THOSE PROCESSES. BUT WE START WITH THE BUDGET PLAN AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. BUT NONE OF IT IS SET IN STONE.
I MEAN, IN A MOMENT IS PROBABLY THE THING THAT DRIVES IT THE MOST. IS A GAIN STUDENTS AND WE NEED TO ADD A SECTION, WE HAD A SECTION.
>> SO THIS IS THE BASE. >> KATY DOWLING: IT IS.
AND BUDGET ARE SIZES AS YOU GUYS KNOW, IT IS NOT -- THERE ARE ALLOCATIONS PUT INTO PROTECT US FROM UNANTICIPATED THINGS THAT COME UP. WHEN THERE'S A NEW INITIATIVE, A NEW COMMUNICATIVE ILLITERACY CONTRACT WAS WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH YOU, THE FIRST ROUND AND THANKFULLY IT COVERED TWO-THIRDS OF SALARY UPFRONT. THAT IS HELPFUL.
WE HAVE THOSE THINGS BUILT INTO FLEX SO THAT WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE. BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW.
SO FOR HAS TO BE BUDGETED TO ZERO DOLLARS EVERYTHING OBLIGATED HARD AND FAST WOULD NOT BE A GREAT PLAN FOR US BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY TO PIVOT.
WOULD LIKE TO. >> SORRY, ONE LAST QUESTION.
BETWEEN FIVE NUMBER FIVE AND SEVEN, YOU MENTIONED BRIEFLY IN THERE THAT SOME OF THIS OVERLAPS WITH FUNDING FROM THE GRAND.
COULD YOU JUST REPEAT THAT? >> I SURE, JOSH.
>> KATY DOWLING: I SURE CAN. AS WE REMEMBER, THE GRAND DISCUSSION, THE POSITIONS ARE SO MANY TOO UGLY OR TWO OR THREE DEPENDING ON WHICH YEAR THAT COME IN.
TO THE EDUCATION FUND OVERALL. AND SO THAT IS WHAT THIS IS.
IS ALLOCATING THOSE. SO, LOOK AT THE SCHOOL PSYCH PIECE, SO SCHOOL COUNSELORS, THE SCHOOL SITE, I BELIEVE, AS I'M SITTING HERE TALKING IS ACTUALLY IN THE SPECIAL EDUCATION BECAUSE SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGISTS ARE DOING THE TESTING AND DIAGNOSIS FOR STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. SO THESE ARE BASICALLY MOVING THEM IN ALIGNED WITH THE GRANT IF YOU -- YEAR ONE OR TWO STAFF MEMBERS ARE GOING TO COME FROM THE GRANT AND YEAH, TWO, THEY COME INTO THIS RECORDING, THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ALLOCATING AS
PART OF THAT PLAN. >> THANK YOU.
>> YOU ARE WELCOME. >> MS. THOMAS, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, TOO, WE GENERALLY FROWNED UPON HIRING NONCERTIFIED -- YOU KNOW, STAFF THAT ARE NOT IMPACTING THE CLASSROOM.
SO I WOULD TELL YOU IF THERE WAS A SITUATION AND I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ME AT NAUSEAM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FACILITIES, WE OUTSOURCE CUSTODIAL. WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY FOR GROUNDS. MAINTENANCE, SNOW REMOVAL.
AND SO GENERALLY, EVEN WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LIKE THE SCHOOL GLEYBER TORRES, WE ARE WORKING WITH BUSINESSES AND THE COMMUNITY. SO WHERE IT MIGHT IMPACT THIS REALLY IS IN THE SERVICES AREA. AND SO WE HAVE SOME CONTINGENCY BUILDING IN THERE TO PICK TO PICK UP UNANTICIPATED THINGS
THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. >> AND MY THREE AREAS OF CONCERN WHERE I'M SPEAKING OF HIS TRANSPORTATION, CUSTODIAL -- NOT CUSTODIAL. FOOD AND SERVICES, FOOD SERVICES. AND THEN I ATE, WITH THAT FALL ON SUBDUED TEACHERS. DOES NOT FALL INTO EDUCATION? OKAY. THANK YOU.
SO GOING THROUGH ASSUMPTIONS, THOSE WERE ALL EIGHT THROUGH 12, ALL MORE OF THE STAFFING BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE WE GET INTO OPERATIONS, SUPPORT SERVICES OPERATIONS OF PLANT MAINTENANCE AND THAT IS NUMBER 12. THAT IS THE PROPERTY AND LIABILITY. THIS -- WE JUST HAD A MEETING WITH OUR AGENT FROM ISSUED PARTNERS AND WE ARE TOLD THAT RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GOING OUT TO THE MARKET TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL PRICING BECAUSE OUR PROPERTY CASUALTY ESPECIALLY WITH OUR VALUES OF OUR PROPERTIES, THEY ARE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM PROPERTY ROUGHLY 18 TO 20% INCREASE.
AS WELL AS AND I THINK A 10 TO 17 AND THE OTHER COVERAGES.
SO THAT IS BUILT IN HERE. YOU CAN SEE IN 23, WE EXPECTED A LOWER NUMBER. WE GOT A RENEWAL INFORMATION A LITTLE BIT LATER BECAUSE WE DID NOT ASK SOONER.
WE ASKED HER TO GET IT A LITTLE EARLIER THIS YEAR AND YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE TO PROJECTED THAT OUT FOR 3 YEARS BUT WE ARE
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TAKING EXPECTING A SIZABLE INCREASE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE 100,000-DOLLAR PREMIER DISTRICT, BUT WE ARE WELL OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. SAW 18% INCREASE HURTS.AND I'M SPEAKING HIS LANGUAGE. >> I CAN SPEAK TO THAT, TOO.
BUT PROPERTY AVERAGE FOR THE COUNTRY'S 21% INCREASE THIS
YEAR. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING WE ARE
BETTER-THAN-AVERAGE? >> WE ARE BETTER THAN AVERAGE.
THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS WE CAN DO AND LOOK AT AND WE WILL GET INTO THAT LATER. HOPEFULLY THERE'S RULES, WITHIN
LIMITS, ALL THAT STUFF. >> IN SUPPORT SERVICES, THEY ARE CENTRAL NONPROGRAM. THOSE ARE PRETTY ROUTINE.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WORKER'S COMPENSATION, GROUP INSURANCE, UNEMPLOYMENT. COMPENSATION OUR GROUP INSURANCE, WE HAVE HAD TO DO SOME ALIGNMENT.
MY FIRST YEAR HERE WHERE WE WENT FROM EIGHT TO.
INTO A FOUR TIER PLAN. WHICH REALLY IMPACTED OUR FOLKS HERE THAT CARE FAMILY INSURANCE. AND SO THAT TIME, THAT WAS GABBY'S FIRST YEAR AS PRESIDENT. WE MAKE SURE THE COMPENSATION INCREASES WERE SUCH THAT THE INCREASE IN INSURANCE DID NOT PUSH PEOPLE WERE NOT MAKING LESS MONEY.
BUT WE ALSO AGREED WE INCREASED SOME OF THE PAYMENTS PEOPLE WERE PAYING. TO TAKE ON A SINGLE PARENT FOLKS WERE PAYING ONE-HALF% PER YEAR BUT NOW THEY'RE PAYING FIVE.
SO WE HAVE TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, ON THE BACK END, WE HAVE TO LEVEL OUT SOME OF THE COST. NOW WE ARE TO STREAMLINE THE PLAN OPERATION. WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE, OUR BENEFITS MANAGER HERE HAD EXTENSIVE EXPENSES IN CARMEL.
SO ONE OF HER FIRST THINGS, YOU KNOW, WAS GETTING OUR BENEFIT ENROLLMENT. WE MADE IT INSTEAD OF CAPER.
YES, WE WERE DOING BENEFIT ENROLLMENT.
I KNOW [INAUDIBLE] ARE YOU KIDDING ME? NO, I'M NOT GETTING YOU AT ALL. SO THOSE EFFICIENCIES SO SHE CAN FOCUS HER TIME ON THIS BENEFIT PLANS, WE ME WITH THE UNION MENTALLY AND IN AN INSURANCE TASK FORCE MEETING.
TO GO THROUGH PERFORMANCE AND WE ARE REALLY JUST TRYING TO TIGHTEN THAT UP. SO THAT IT IS SOLVE IT AND SO ARE HAPPY WITH THE FORWARD PROGRESS.
TREATMENTS HAVE KIND OF LEVELED OFF.
BUT THE STOCK LOSSES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN BIG FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH A BIG ENTITY. I KNOW IMPASSE CONVERSATION, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SHOPPING INSURANCE PLANS.
IS -- HAS NOT COME UP IN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING? WHERE DO WE STAND WITH THAT? SO THERE ARE LANGUAGE IN ERROR, THE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT ANY CHANGE TO THE BENEFITS HAS TO BE NEGOTIATED. SO THAT IS THE FIRST THING.
WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IS WE HAVE A MISALIGNED PLAN YEAR COMPARED TO THE YEAR OF THE AGENT.
RIGHT? I CALL THAT AN EXIT BARRIER.
THAT IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPI OPINION.
BUT SO OUR PLAN STARTS JANUARY 1 TO JUNE 30 LIKE THE SCHOOL YEAR.
BUT MY AGENT TIME RUNS JANUARY TO DECEMBER.
OUT SO WHAT OUT SO WHAT WE HAVE TRIED TO DO IS A LIGHT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T INCREASE EMPLOYEE PREMIUMS UNTIL JANUARY.
BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN ALL OF YOUR AMOUNTS ARE, YOU KNOW, IT GOES BY THAT YEAR. YOUR DEDUCTIBLE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CONTRIBUTE TO A HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNT, IT IS ALL BASED ON THE CALENDAR YEAR. WE LIKE EVERYTHING TO BE JANUARY TO DECEMBER. AND WE HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY WITH THAT. SO FIRST WE STARTED TO CLEAN UP SOME OTHER PIECES. AND I THINK WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I THINK MRS. TAYLOR WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. AS YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SHOP THE INSURANCE. WE SHOP THE AGENT.
AND SO I THINK OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT IS LOOKING AT SETTLING THIS YEAR AND LOOKING AT IT FOR A FUTURE YEAR BECAUSE OF THE TIME IT TAKES TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
BUT I THINK THAT WILL ALSO COME UP THROUGH FRAUD REDUCTION TASK FORCE. AND I KNOW AND ABBY CAN WEIGH IN. BUT SHE IS OPEN TO DISCUSSION
ABOUT RF BEING THE AGENT. >> ARE SOME.
>> YOU CAN SEE IN HERE, I KNOW MS. THOMAS MORE NOTICED THERE'S STILL NUMBER 15 IS RELATED TO THE J WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE FACTOR IN THERE AS WE TRANSITION OUT OF A FULLY.
WHAT WE ARE PAYING THEM IS AN INTRICATELY LESS.
BUT ARE STILL IN THERE AS WE MANEUVERED THROUGH BEING COMPLETELY SELF UP AND SEPARATE FROM THEM.
BUT THEY STILL PARTNER WITH US. YOU CAN SEE ITEM 16 IS GOING TO BE AVERAGE SALARIES. SO THAT IS BASED ON PHYSICALLY STAFF THAT ARE PAID HERE IN THE DISTRICT.
AND IT GOES TO AND KIND OF CONSIDERS IT IN ALL OF OUR MAJOR AREAS. FUTURE THAT SERVICE EXPENDITURES. THIS I A PLACE YOU SEE THAT UNREIMBURSED TEXTBOOK RENTAL. THAT IS WHERE WE USED TO BE ABLE TO PUT DOWN A LEVY IN OUR DEBT SERVICE FUND FOR TEXTBOOKS THAT ESSENTIALLY DID NOT GET REIMBURSED FROM THE STATE.
WE CAN DO THAT ANY LONGER. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A MISCELLANEOUS PROJECTS WHICH IS KIND OF THE -- IT IS BASICALLY THE ONE-YEAR GEO BOND ISSUANCE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE PLACE. THERE FOR FISHERS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THOSE THINGS FACTOR INTO THE AMATEURS SCHEDULES THAT WE WILL GO THROUGH.
THROUGH OUR PLETHORA OF PAPER. I'M REALLY SORRY I KILLED ALL
THESE TREES TODAY. >> REAL QUICK.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE JUST GETTING -- FLEW RIGHT BY NUMBER
16, WHICH IS AVERAGE SALARIES. >> KATY DOWLING: YES, AMANDA.
>> THIS IS THE SALARY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE DISTRICT, NOT
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JUST -- 28 OF THOSE ARE ALL SO IS.IT WAS JUST ITEM NUMBER 15. >> OKAY.
SO WHEN YOU WENT INTO THAT, WE HAVE THAT IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. I'M LIKE, WELL, WE ARE PAYING -- SO THESE ARE JUST THAT WHOLE SECTION, NUMBER 16 IS WHAT WE ARE PAYING AND 23 FOR, FIVE, AND SIX WITH THE PROJECTION WOULD BE GOING FORWARD. WHAT ARE WE USING FOR THAT? THAT IS THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING THAT GIVES US THE PERCENTAGE OF WHAT TO EXPECT IN 24 AND 25, AND 26.
CAN IT GIVES US AN IDEA WHEN WE AT POSITIONS, THE SYSTEM KNOWS HOW TO FIGURE THE COST OF THAT BASED ON THESE FACTORS IN HERE.
THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS AVERAGE SALARY I THINK IS JUST A FACTOR FOR US WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT MOVEMENT ON THE SALARY RANGE THROUGH COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AS WELL AS FOR ALL OTHER STAFF. IT JUST GIVES YOU A GREAT IDEA WHERE YOU NEED TO GROW. YOU KNOW? IF ENTRY LEVEL, IF YOU WILL, THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY IMPACT OF THE WAY. BUT SOMETIMES MAY BE AT THE LEVEL, IF YOU POST YOUR AVERAGE IS LOW, MAYBE YOU NEED TO THE IMPACT IT. YOU NEED TO IMPACT IT MORE SERIOUSLY SO THAT YOU CAN RAISE THE LEVEL OF REAL.
SO WE LOOK AT THAT LIKE WITH TEACHER CONTRACTOR, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE BEGINNING, THE OPENING YEAR ONE TEACHER BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOP OF THE SKILL AREAS WE DON'T WANT EVERYBODY TO LEAVE AND GO TO ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT EXTENDS OUR SCALE UP FOR -- COMPENSATION PERSPECTIVE.
>> SO THAT AND AGAIN, SO THIS IS PER POSITION PAPER IS THERE ANOTHER PART YOU CAN PART YOU CAN SAY WE LOOK INTO THAT LATER.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH AND WE SEE THE LINE ITEM TO SAY, FOR OUR PICK ANY ONE OF THESE. GROUNDS AND WITNESS.
THAT ONE SAYS THE AVERAGE PERSON IS MAKING 24, 283, 1025.
AND 25. SO WE HAVE PROJECTS THERE.
IF WE HAVE THAT, GROUNDS MAINTENANCE.
THE AVERAGE PERSON IS 232 IS MAKING 24,283.
WHERE IS THE FULL THING THAT SAYS WE HAVE YOU KNOW, 150 PEOPLE ON THE GROUNDS COMMITTEE AND WE ARE PAYING THEM FOR 24, 283. SO WE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR, 233, THAT NUMBER IS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, $250,000 FOR GROUNDS
PEOPLE. >> THAT WOULD BE IN THE BUDGET DETAIL. THAT SECTION ALONE IS OVER 100 PAGES MORE THAN JUST THIS. SO I ACTUALLY DID NOT PRINT THAT. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SCAN TO PRINT I THINK IS THE NOTION THAT YOU CAN DO ON A LOTUS AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SEND THAT ON.
BUT IT IS NEVER GOING TO ITEMIZE OUT MS. THOMAS LIKE THE TEACHERS, WE HAVE AND THOSE WE HAVE LISTED THEIR LINK ALL THE WAY THROUGH BY CAROLINE. NONCERTIFIED STAFF, WE DON'T REALLY HANDLE IN THAT SAME CAPACITY.
WE KNOW THE STAFFING LEVELS PAYROLL LIKE IF WE KNOW WE HAVE SIX FOLKS IN LINE MAINTENANCE, AND MAKING THAT NUMBER UP.
I KNOW IT IS HARD AND THAT. WE HAVE SIX FOLKS IN LIGHT MAINTENANCE, AND WE KNOW THAT THIS WAS THE COST WHEN WE STARTED. SO THEN WHEN WE UPDATE THESE FACTORS AND UPDATES EVERYTHING ALL THE WAY TO.
WHETHER THAT IS INSURANCE, WAGES, IT FACTORS IT IN INTO THE PLAN OVERALL WITH THE ASSUMPTIONS.
SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LISTING OF EVERY -- I MEAN, I COULD RUN A REPORT ON A PAPER THAT SHOWS YOU EVERY PERSON AND WHAT THEIR WAGES ARE. AND I'M SURE -- AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I'M NOT SAYING I WANT TO GET RID OF IT.
>> KATY DOWLING: I UNDERSTAND. >> THE IDEA.
>> KATY DOWLING: OF THE QUANTITY.
OF THE QUANTITY. THAT BEING SAID, MAYBE IT IS A NOTE IF YOU PUT IN THERE THAT I THINK HOW MANY ARE CATEGORIES THERE ARE, MAYBE 10 OR 12 THERE. THAT YOU CAN SAY FOR EXAMPLE TEACHER. WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 2,142 TEACHERS. PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE.
WE HAVE 24, YOU KNOW, JUST SO WE CAN SEE WITH THAT JUST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT JUST IS WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEIR INDEPENDENT SALARY IS. I WOULD SURE LIKE TO KNOW WHAT I HAVE IN EACH OF THEM AS FAR AS MY FACULTY GOES.
>> SO THESE ARE CONDENSED. SO THE NONCERTIFIED PAY SHEETS THAT THE BOARD APPROVES ANNUALLY EVERY YEAR WHEN WE DO COMPENSATION, THAT HAS EVERY SINGLE POSITION WITHIN THE DISTRICT. SO WHAT WE CAN -- WHAT WE COULD DO BASED ON PAYROLL CATEGORIZES, IT IS JUST NOT PART OF THIS PLAN. IT IS THERE'S PROBABLY A PAYROLL REPORT THAT WOULD SHOW THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE WAGE.
BASED ON. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE QUANTITY. I KNOW THAT WE SAY THAT WE HAVE 2,000 EMPLOYEES IN A DISTRICT OR SOMETHING.
SOMETHING. I WOULD L LIKE TO KNOW.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT QUANTITY IS.
>> GO AHEAD. >> I JUST -- THE EYE A POSITION, IS THAT A PERSON IS THAT 20,000 FOR A FULL-TIME POSITION?
>> THAT IS 180 DAYS A YEAR. AT THE RATE.
>> 1,000. >> THAT IS WHAT IN MOST COME OUT TO ON AVERAGE, IS, MAN. I WOULD SAY THERE'S A LOT OF TURN OVER IN THOSE POSITIONS. SO WHEN YOU HAVE, LOOK, WE WENT TO PLAN TODAY WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS HERE FOR 24 DAYS AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER PERSON THAT IS HERE FOR 100, IT IS GOING TO THROW OFF SOME OF YOUR AVERAGES.
IS, THE HOURLY RATE IS IN NOT TERRIBLE BUT IT IS 180 DAVE POSITION. SO IT IS NOT TO 60.
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PASOS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE THINK OF $17 AN HOUR, AS IN NUMBER, YOU KNOW THAT IS OVER 30. BUT IT IS NOT IF YOU'RE NOTWORKING 260 DAYS A YEAR. >> AND THE WHOLE TERM I HAVE BEEN OTHER BUT I THINK OTHERS AGREE.
NOT TO SPEAK FOR OTER BOARD MEMBERS.
I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF TRYING TO UP OUR I.R.A. AND CAVITARY SALARY NUMBERS SO ONE IS CAN YOU REMIND ME PLEASE, WHEN IS IT THAT WE DISCUSS THOSE BUDGET NUMBERS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT POSSIBLY INCREASING THE PORT? IT IS ALWAYS AFTER WE SETTLED THE TEACHERS CONTRACT.
>> OKAY. BACK SO WE ARE BARGAINING A LITTLE LATER THIS YEAR. SO WE WILL BE BARGAINING NEAR THE END OF OCTOBER. SO I WOULD TELL YOU THAT IT WILL BE SOMETIME IN MID NOVEMBER WOULD BE WHEN WE WILL HAVE THE -- BE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU.
>> IF I CAN HAVE ONE MORE. FOR ALL OF THESE, ANY OF THESE POSITIONS, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU DO IT.
BUT ALL I ASKED, I ASSUME WITH BENCHMARK AND THOSE YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT SLIDE BEFORE. YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS RANK ON TEACHER PAY. WE ARE STARTING SALARIES.
COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROCESS? AS IT RELATES TO ALL OF THESE? DO WE DO SOME KIND OF BENCHMARKING AT LEAST IN THE NEARBY DISTRICTS TO KIND OF KEEP UP WITH OUR COMPETITION? NO2 YEARS AGO, JOSH AND HER TWO YEARS AGO IS WHEN WE BROKE IT AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN POST-COVID WHEN IT REALLY KIND OF LIKE THAT WHOLE MARKET AND NOT HAVING ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THE WORKFORCE HIT.
WE DID AN ASSESSMENT I BELIEVE MS. LIBBY COMPILED THAT DATA FOR AREA DISTRICTS. WE KIND OF 10 TO STAY WITH AND HAMILTON COUNTY. AND THAT IS WHAT WE UTILIZED WHEN WE DETERMINED THAT PAY INCREASES WHICH I THINK THERE'S PROGRESS MAY HAVE BEEN THOSE AT THE TIME SO WE DID NOT DO PERCENTAGE. WE DID A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT TO MAKE THEM MORE COMPETITIVE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT HAS BEEN DONE AGAIN SINCE. BUT I IMAGINE WE WILL BE DOING IT AGAIN PERIOD NORMALLY, YEAH. THAT POSITION WITH DO THAT.
OBVIOUSLY, MY CONCERN IS JUST TO STAY COMPETITIVE WITH --
SPECTACULARLY. >> -- THE OTHER DISTRICT.
AND WE WANT TO -- THEM TO CHOOSE US.
>> IN THE AVERAGE SALARIES, IS THAT THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT WILL PASS OR WITHOUT? PURPOSE.
>> ALL RIGHT. NUMBER 18 IS THE FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND EXPENDITURES WHICH I BELIEVE MRS. MEDICINE WILL GO INTO IN-DEPTH. THERE'S ACTUALLY A SHEET FOR EVERY BUILDING BECAUSE THERE IS A CAPITAL PROJECTS PLAN THAT WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE WITH THE STATE.
ESSENTIALLY IT WILL BE POSTED TO THE GATEWAY ALONG WITH A COUPLE OTHER FORMS THAT WE HAVE TO USE. YOU CAN SEE NUMBER 19 THE NEW HIRES FOR OPERATIONS, THERE ARE NOT.
THERE SORT OF AN ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT FOR EXPENDITURES THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN HERE. TO SCHEDULE IMPACT CLASSROOM SUPPLIES. AN IMPACT, YOU KNOW, WATER OR SEWER IF THOSE ARE FACTORED IN. IT IS JUST A JOURNALIST OR ADJUSTMENT. YOU CAN SEE WITH THE INCREASE THAT RETURN TO ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION BECAUSE WE JUST FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO KEEP IT LEVEL AND LIGHT -- IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A RENEWAL ON THE BALLOT.
TRANSPORTATION FUND EXPENDITURES, THAT BREAKS EVERYTHING DOWN INTO SUMMARY FOR THE EXPENSES SPECIFIC TO THAT DEPARTMENT. NUMBER 22, THIS IS A BIG WIN FOR US. THIS IS THE ESTIMATED CIRCUIT BREAKER. AND IT ALSO SAYS UNCOLLECTED PROPERTY TAXES. BUT WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A HIGH COLLECTION RIGHT HERE WITH IN HAMILTON COUNTY.
THEY CAN SEE OUR CIRCUIT BREAKER IMPACT HAS BEEN INCREASING.
WE WERE AT PROJECTED AT FOUR-POINT JUST UNDER 4.9 FOR THE CURRENT YEAR. WE ARE LOOKING AT 5.1 FOR NEXT YEAR. BUT WHAT KIND OF HAPPENS THERE IS AS DEBT RETIRED FROM EXEMPT DEBT, IT LOWERS OUR TAX RATE.
BUT THAT DEBT IS EXEMPT FROM TAX CAPS.
SO WHEN YOU ARE PAYING DOWN DEBT THAT IS EXEMPT, ANYBODY, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY GIVING YOU ANY PROPERTY TAX RELIEF BUT THEN YOU ARE ADDING DEBT IN ANOTHER AREA. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE KEEP AN EYE ON. I WILL TELL YOU A 5 MILLION DOES NOT, SHE IS COLLECTING FORMULATORS IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY. 5 MILLION IN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE LEVY DOES NOT WORRIED ME THAT MUCH FOR COMING, IN MY PRIOR DISTRICT, WE WERE AT OVER FOUR. AND WE KNOW JUST UNDER -- J JUSA LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN A THIRD OF THAT.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT IT -- JUST A PART OF DOING BUSINESS. IT IS SOMETHING WE ALWAYS MONITOR. ADDITIONAL WITH ME BUDGET BECAUSE THAT 5 MILLION COMES DIRECTLY OUT OF THE OPERATIONS FUND. THERE'S NO CHANGES IN THOSE REVENUE BUDGETS. YOU CAN SEE EXCISE TAX.
COMMERCIAL VEHICLE EXCISE TAX AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TAX.
THOSE ARE ANCILLARY TAXES THAT WE RECEIVE A PRO RATA SHARE OF.
BASED ON ESSENTIALLY THE TAX LEVIES ACROSS ALL TEXAS TOAST
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DOCUMENT DISTRICTS BETWEEN THOSE WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR UNIT.RIELLE CREIGHTON'S DEGREE FOR REVENUE TO FUND.
BUT IT IS BASED ON THE. IF HUBER-LEVY GOES DOWN, LIKELY, OR YOUR TAX LEVY GOES DOWN LIKELY, YOUR ANCILLARY TAX WILL GO DOWN. NUMBER 25 GOES THROUGH SOME OF THE TUITION SUPPORT VARIABLES. THAT I CANNOT EVEN PRINT PREVIEW BECAUSE IT WAS SO SMALL. I CANNOT READ IT.
SO WE HAVE SOME HISTORICAL DATA THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO SHARE.
BUT IT ESSENTIALLY COMPARES ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THE STATE FOUR TO SUPPORT AND ACCOUNTS FOR CHANGES LIKE ENROLLMENT OR, YOU KNOW, CHANGES IN WITH THE BASE TUITION SUPPORT IS AND ALL OF THE FACTORS. THERE IS A CTA FACTOR.
SPECIAL EDUCATION FACTOR HONORS THE POMA THERE'S JUST A LOT OF PIECES TO IT. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY BUDGET REVISIONS TO CONSIDER HERE. 29, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE PROT PROTECTED. JUST UNDER 3% REDUCTION.
AND OUR TAX RATE. FROM THIS PROPOSAL.
BUT WE WILL GO INTO THAT IN DETAIL.
THERE IS A SLIDE FOR A PAYCHECK IS COMPLETELY ABOUT THE TAX RATE. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. THE PROJECTED UNUSED APPROPRIATION, WE ALWAYS HAVE AN AMOUNT.
WE DON'T SPEND EVERYTHING TO A ZERO-DOLLAR.
THAT IS NOT OUR GOAL. GENERALLY SPEAKING, SO WE USE A NUMBER OF ABOUT TWO TO 2 1/2% WITHIN OUR REFERENDUM AND OPERATIONS FUND. TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SOME PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT HELP US MAINTAIN THAT CASH BAIL AND INSTEAD OF RIGHT AROUND .12. WHEN MISSING MEDICINE AND ARTWORK MS. WITTER REUTER YESTERDAY, ONE OF THE THINGS SOMETIMES WE FORGET WHAT WE THINK ABOUT READY AND WE THINK ABOUT CASH BALANCES, YOU KNOW, OUR NUMBERS ARE GROWING.
BUT SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS WE HAVE KEPT FLAT AND WE NEEDED TO BE AWARE OF THAT JUST TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE RESERVES IN PLACE TO PROTECT US FROM UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO -- SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. RIGHT.
RIGHT NOW YOU ARE SITTING ON THE RATE -- BLAH BLAH BLAH.
ON THE RAINY DAY FUND RIGHT NOW, IS IT SHOWING 2.5?
>> TWO AND. >> TUA HALF A MILLION RAINY DAY
WE BUDGET JUST FOR EMERGENCIES. >> LIKE AN EIGHT OR NINE.
WE KEEP IT AT 30 MILLION. THAT DOES NOT CHANGE.
TO IN HALF IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT ENDS UP RECEIVING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WE PURCHASED TWO AND A ANSWER HALF A MILLION FOR I THINK WHAT STARTED AS EMERGENCIES.
AND TRANSITIONED INTO A WAY TO ALLOW WORK ON CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR FACILITIES. IT IN ADVANCE OF SELLING THE BONDS. BUT IN THE END, IT IS IN US THERE. EVERY YEAR, THAT FUND BALANCE ENDS UP EXACTLY WHERE IT STARTED, AFTER WE REPAY EVERYTHING. SO IT IS REALLY UNUSED MEETING LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO USE IT FOR EMERGENCY REASONS.
THAT IS WHY IT IS SITTING THERE. BUT IT IS NOT ADDING.
WE ARE NOT ADDING TO THE BALANCE OF YEAR.
>> OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE TYPICALLY TRY TO KEEP.
YOU ARE SEEING YOU ARE SEEING THAT PARKS-REESE FOURTH YEAR.
>> THIS IS MORE ABOUT APPROPRIATION THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO USE OR PROBATION TO SPEND.
>> OKAY. WE KEEP IT RIGHT AROUND JUST A
LITTLE OVER 13 MILLION. >> YEAH.
AND KNOWING THAT, AND LOOKING DOWN HERE AT TWO AND A HALF A MILLION, I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHAT HAPPENED.
>> UH-HUH. WE CAN SPEND ON A RAINY DAY AND LASTLY APPROPRIATE IT. SO THIS JUST GIVES US THE OPTION TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT IF WE NEED TO.
BUT WE DON'T. SO THE CAST -- CASH BALANCE STAYS THE SAME. THANK YOU.
>> IN THE EDUCATION FUND, WE KEEP ONLY HALF OF A PERCENT.
REASON FOR THAT IS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE MAXIMIZE THOSE DOLLARS AS PART OF OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING.
PROCESS AND THAT THE NUMBERS WORK FOR US AND ALLOW HIM TO KEEP THE ONE 12TH IN CASH VEINS WITHIN THE FUND.
TRANSPORTATION POINTS LEVY. THAT IS BACK IN THE DAYS OF WHAT WE HAD A TRANSPORTATION FUND. I'M SURE SOME DAY WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE A WORKING FUNCTIONAL ONE IN EXCEL, IS I THINK WE HAD MENTIONED TO YOU. THIS IS A LITTLE NOTICE.
SO WHAT MR. REUTER USED, AS MEDICINE WORKED WITH MR. KUNZ AND A THIRD PARTY TO TRANSITION BACK TO EXCEL FOR THIS YEAR WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING THROUGH IT IN BOTH.
AND THE NEXT YEAR, THERE WOULD BE TO ACTUALLY BE IN EXCEL AND THEN MAYBE CONSIDER 43 ASSUMPTIONS, WE COULD HAVE LIKE 30 AND WE CAN TAKE OUT ALL THE OLD ONES.
BUT THEY ARE HELPFUL FOR REFERENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GOING BACK IN THIS PLAN OVER 20 YEARS.
THERE'S NO CHANGE. BUS REPAYMENT PLAN, WE WILL GO TO ACTUAL PLANT ITSELF. BUT WE ARE ESSENTIALLY PURCHASING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANT THAT WE WILL BE ADVERTISING AND WILL GO TO PLAN IN DETAIL.
THERE'S NO CHANGE TO THE TAX-SHELTERED ANNUITIES.
WE OFFER AN AGENCY OF 4% ANNUITY MATCH.
BUT THERE'S NO CHANGES THAT WE ARE AWARE OF WERE ANTICIPATING AT THIS TIME. INTEREST INCOME FOR US IS A, AS YOU KNOW, INTEREST IS A REALLY GREAT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE ADJUSTED THAT NUMBER UPWARD.
ALL OF OUR INTEREST IS DEPOSITED INTO THE EDUCATION FUND.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WE ARE EXPECTED FOR THIS YEAR AND NEXT
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FOR THAT ARE TO REMAIN HIGH. BUT THEN WE STARTED TO RATCHET IT DOWN GOING INTO 25 AND 26. KNOWING THAT WHEN WE HAVE THOSE DOLLARS, THAT IS GREAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST TAKE IT IN AN AD INTO CASH BALANCE.AND IT IS GOING INTO EDUCATIONS, SO IT IS NOT A MATTER OF CONFLICT, REDUCING THE TAX RATE. BUT IT IS ALSO CAN CHANGE AT THE TOP OF A HEAD AS WE ALL HAVE EXPENSE BEFORE WHEN IT IS
CERTAINLY DROPS OFF. >> BACK TO YOUR POINT TO THE 34.
IN ADDITION TO. >> ALL EMPLOYEES ARE ELIGIBLE
>> IN ADDITION TO IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PENSION.
>> SO THERE'S DIFFERENT CARRIERS FOR THOSE AND PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT FEES AND RATE STRUCTURES AND ALL THOSE KINDS
OF THINGS. >> WE HAVE ONE -- WE WORK WITH
WE DID -- YOU WERE HERE AND WHEN THAT PROCESS WHEN WE STREAMLINED IT AND THEN WENT TO A SINGLE PROVIDER.
IT WAS THE 457. SO IT ALL GOES THROUGH VOYA.
BUT FOLKS ROLL IN AND ROLL OUT BASED ON THEIR KNEES.
VOYA IS OUR PRIMARY PROVIDER. GENERALLY THOSE FEES AND COMMISSIONS, ALL THOSE THINGS COME FROM PLAN ASSETS.
IT IS A BIG AMOUNT. I'M JUST CURIOUS WITH THE LAST
TIME WE LOOKED AT THAT. >> WE WILL MAKE A NOTE.
I CANNOT TELL YOU TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WE REVIEWED THE VOYA PREMIER. THE VOYA COMES OUT AND GOES TO PLAN AND THEN THE PERFORMANCE EVERY YEAR WITH OUR FEES.
>> WILL CONNECT THE INDIVIDUAL'S INVESTMENT ELECTIONS.
AS FAR AS THE PLANS FEES. POPULAR, IF THE -- HOWEVER THAT BROKER IS, IT MAY HAVE A 1% COMMISSION OR A .8% BROKER FEE.
THOSE CHAINS, YOU JUST DID. AND $17,000,000.1 TODAY.
>> WHAT DO YOU DO AGAIN DURING THE --
>> IF YOU MOVE FROM, YOU KNOW, 1% TO .9, COULD BE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. NOTHING CHANGES WITH THE PLAN PARTICIPANTS. THEY HAVE ALL THE SAME OPTIONS AND THINGS. IT IS JUST A LOWER FEE TO PAY FOR THE SERVICE. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE HAVE EVER LOOKED AT THAT AND DO AN RFP OR ANYTHING.
>> I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
IN THE WE HAVE GOTTEN IT IN THE TWO YEARS THAT WE WERE HERE BUT WE DID THAT IN A PRIOR DISTRICT. BUT IT WAS A RESULT OF HAVING, LIKE, FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT PROVIDERS, WHICH IS YOU CAN IMAGINE IS PRETTY UNWIELDY TO IMAGINE -- MANAGE.
WE WENT A SINGLE PROVIDER. BECAUSE THEY WERE IN A FLAT RATE AS OPPOSED TO A PERCENTAGE. WHICH IS MORE BENEFICIAL.
SO WE WOULD CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT IF YOU GIVE US A LITTLE
THANK YOU. >> YOU ARE WORKING.
SO INTERESTING SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAM.
WE ARE PRETTY LIMITED IF YOU WILL TEND TO PUSH WE OFFER SUMMER SCHOOL FOR OUR STUDENTS. WE HAVE SOME ENRICHMENT PIECES.
BUT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT STUDENTS, I BELIEVE, WHO NEED SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPORT ON I READ.
THAT IS WHAT THE ELEMENTARY PIECE IS.
AND THE HIGH SCHOOLS IS PREDOMINATELY INDIAN ONLINE AND IN TERMS OF WHETHER KIDS CAN GET CLASS IS DONE, OVER THE SUMMER.
WE ARE NOT ABLE TO CHARGE FOR THAT.
WE DO RECEIVE A REIMBURSEMENT. I BELIEVE THIS YEAR, IT IS ABOUT $460,000 AGAINST THAT. SO THIS ESSENTIALLY PUSHES US THROUGH INTO THE BUDGET FOR THOSE OFFERINGS.
THE REASON THAT IS BENEFICIAL FOR US IS IT PROVIDES RELIEF AND I KNOW DR. KAPLAN CAN SPEAK TO ADOPTING A FORMER HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL A COUPLE POSITIONS OR GO.
IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE COURSE, THE CLASS SIZES IN HIGH SCHOOLS. TECH LEAD WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY REDUCTIONS IN STATE SUPPORT.
WE ARE IN THE FIRST YEAR OF A TWO-YEAR BIENNIUM AND INCREASING BOTH YEARS WHICH IS GREAT. NONFARM PERSONAL INCOME, I HAVE A WHOLE SLIDE ON THAT. I KNOW YOU GUYS CAN'T WAIT BECAUSE IT IS TOTALLY NOT INTERESTING AT ALL.
BUT IT IS TO BE ABOUT HOW THEY FACTOR THAT IN.
BUT WE ARE ALWAYS WORKING ON A SIX YEAR AVERAGE AND THAT SORT OF INFORMS HOW MUCH OUR TAX LEVIES CAN GROW IN THE FENCE WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE. IT IS PRETTY MUCH LIMITED TO OPERATIONS NOT BECAUSE REFERENDUM IS DOES NOT LEVY CONTROL. SO THEY TAKE THAT HAVE ITCH AND THEN EVERY YEAR YOU ADD A YEAR. YOU DROP A YEAR AND THEN YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS. IN THE HISTORY YEAR THERE WAS LEGISLATION I THINK WE RICHLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GROW 5% BUT WE WERE KEPT AT 4% OR 80% OF AND SO IT IS 4% IS WHAT WE WERE WILLING TO GROW. TRANSFER TO A RAINY DAY FUND.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE MAY INVESTIGATE IF IT IS APPROPRIATE AT SOME POINT TO ADD TO OUR RESERVES THERE. ONLY BECAUSE 13 MILLION HAS BEEN THE NUMBER FOR A LONG TIME AND OUR EXPENDITURES ARE HIGHER.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THAT FOR RESERVE, WE MAY NEED TO CYCLE COAST TO COAST. BUT THERE WILL BE PART OF A LONG-TERM STRATEGIC DISCUSSION ONCE WE GET THROUGH NOVEMBER.
RAINY DAY EXPENDITURES. NUMBER 40.
I WAS RIGHT, THERE REALLY ARE 43.
THTHAT IS A GOOD GUESS TODAY. WE.
WE NEED THE EXPENDITURES, THAT IS A 2 1/2 MILLION.
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RETORTED THAT WE ALLOCATED ESSENTIALLY FOR EMERGENCIES.AND THEN IT IS REPAID. SO IT NEVER REDUCES THE OVERALL BALANCE OF THE FUND. IN THE END, WE FINISHED AN END, WE START AND FINISH. WHERE WE WERE IN THE FRONT.
SO IT IS ALWAYS THE $30 MILLION NUMBER.
WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATIONS AT THIS TIME.
BIG CHANGE HERE FOR US, 42 AND 43.
SO YOU HAVE HEARD ME SAY WE TRANSFERRED FROM OPS TO ADD.
THAT HAS BEEN OUR M.O. HERE. WITH THE NEW REVENUE SPENDING PLAN REQUIREMENTS FOR THE REFERENDUM FOUND.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT UP AND SO NOW WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS A TRANSFER FROM EDUCATION INTO OPERATIONS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT NUMBER THERE WITHIN THE PLAN IS ABOUT 21 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WILL GO INTO THE OPERATIONS PLAN.
NOW, HOW DID WE COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER? IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THE REFERENDUM LEVY IS 24 MILLION.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS WE ARE MOVING, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT REVENUE SPENDING PLAN, IT HAD THOSE FOUR DISTINCT AREAS AND WHAT THOSE DOLLARS WERE EQUAL $24 MILLION.
WE ARE REALLY MOVING THOSE EXPENSES OUT OF EDUCATION INTO THE REFERENDUM SO IT IS A WASH. SO HOW WE FIGURED INITIALLY WAS 22 1/2, WE TOOK 24 MILLION. AND REDUCED IT BY THE ONE BY THE 1 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS TRANSFERRED.
WE WERE PUTTING INTO AN. BUT IN THE END, AT THIS POINT.
IN THE PROPOSED, WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T NEED TO TRANSFER 22 1/2 WHICH IS HOW WE GOT THROUGH THE 21 1/2 RIGHT NOW AND AS WE WERE REFINING SOME THINGS, MIGHT GO A LITTLE LOWER.
ARE THERE THERE IS TO OFFICE TO HAVE A TRANSFER BE AS LOW AS WE CAN AFFORD TO BE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE.
BUT IT IS REALLY A MOVEMENT OF THOSE EXPENDITURES FOR EDUCATION
TO REFERENDUM. >> WAS THAT A NEW TOTAL THAT 24 MILLION THAT WE THINK THAT IF THE REFERENDUM GOES THROUGH? PURPOSE. THAT IS THE DISCUSSION WE HAD AND WHEN WE AGREED TO WHAT THE RATE WOULD BE? 24 MILLION WOULD BE THAT LEVY REGARDLESS.
SO THE RATE WOULD BE HIGHER THAN THE 1995.
BUT IF WE CAN GENERATE THE FUNDS WITH A LOWER RATE, THEN WE WOULD
SO DO WE HAVE A UPDATED A VISA AND ALL THAT?
>> YOU, IT IS A SLIDE. >> OKAY.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK FOR SOME CLARIFICATION.
SO IF THE APPOINTMENT 95, WE WERE ASSUMING OR CALCULATING THE
WOULD BE AT ABOUT 24 MILLION. >> UH-HUH.
>> YOU ARE SEEING IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF WE ARE AT THE 1.95 IT GENERATES MORE THAN WE ARE GOING TO REDUCE THE -- REDUCE THE RATE BECAUSE WE SHOULD WORK, WE NEED TO BE SO WE COULD REDUCE THE RATE. AND I BEEN A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION TO BE FAIR ABOUT THE GROWTH IN AVIAN I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND THAT IS WHAT WE AGREED.
WE AGREED THAT WE WOULD REDUCE THOSE RATES.
1805 GENERATES 24 MILLION IN TAX LEVY THEN WE WOULD REDUCE WE WOULD REDUCE THE RELAY TO THAT. THAT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND.
THANK YOU. NEXT IS ACTUALLY THE PROJECTED REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BY THE FUND.
ONE IS THE DEBT SERVICE FUND. THIS IS THE FUND PREDOMINANTLY YOU SEE THOSE AND YOU WILL GEOFENCE THERE IN AND OUT OF IT.
BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE OUR BUDGET FOR 2024 REVENUE WAS PROJECTING HIS JUST UNDER 54.6 MILLION EXPENDITURES ARE 55.85 MILLION.
THAT DOES REDUCE -- OH. SORRY.
SLACKING ON THE JOB OVER THERE. I'M SURE EXCEL WOULD MAKE IT EASIER, BUT WE WILL FIND OUT NEXT YEAR.
SO WE ARE DELIBERATELY SPENDING MORE THAN WE ARE RECEIVING AND THETHERE'S A REASON FOR THAT. WE ARE ONLY ABLE TO KEEP A CASH BALANCE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL. THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE MANDATES THAT DEBT ISSUED PRIOR TO I THINK IT IS JULY 120 AND A -- 2008. IS THAT RIGHT? YOU COULD HAVE AT THAT TIME A 50% CASH BALANCE OF WHAT YOU WERE LEVYING. ANY DEBT ISSUED AFTER THAT IS ONLY 15%. SO WE CALCULATE TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE CAN HAVE A CASH BALANCE AND SOMETIMES IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TO DOWN AND UP JUST TO MAKE SURE WEEKEND TO KEEP THE CASH BALANCE WHERE IT IS SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY TO A BAR THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RECOVER INTERNALLY. AND SO THAT WAS -- THAT IS WHAT WE EXPERIENCE THIS YEAR PARTICULAR.
I WILL TELL YOU, THE AMOUNT IN THERE FOR BONDS IS AN ESTIMATED AMOUNT. WE HAVE NOT SOLD THEM YET AND THAT IS AFFECTED IN AT THE NEXT INTEREST AMOUNT AS WELL AS THE NEXT PRINCIPLE. SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT NUMBER WILL GO DOWN. BUT IT WILL NOT GO UP.
MEETING WE WILL SPEND LESS BECAUSE IT IS STILL PROTECTED UNTIL WE FINALIZE THE DEBT. OKAY.
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IS IT THE WEATHER OR IS IT ME? OR, EVERYONE IS EITHER READY TO GO TO SLEEP OR RUN AWAY. ARE NOT SURE WHICH ONE.>> NO. AND I THINK IT IS GREAT.
>> NO PICK OF THE LITTER SHOULD HAVE HAD A RED BULL OR, YOU KNOW. COTTON CANDY.
I DO KNOW. WHAT WOULD HAVE MADE IT MORE F FUN. ALL RIGHT, THAT IS ALL MY JOKES I HAVE THIS EVENING. EVERYONE IS LIKE, WOW, SHE REALLY ASKED FOR 3 HOURS AND I REALLY WANT TO RUN AWAY RIGHT NOW. I'M SORRY.
YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR AN STEPHANIE.
THEY LIVE WITH US EVERY DAY. THE NEXT IS A DEBT SERVICE EXEMPT FROM. THIS IS THE REFERENDUM EXEMPT DEBT FROM 2013. WHEN WE DID THE CAREER COLLEGE ACADEMIES AND SOME OTHER BUILDING PROJECTS.
THE BUDGET FOR THIS EVENT, IT IS PRETTY EVEN.
WE ARE REVENUE IS JUST UNDER 4.9 MILLION.
EXPENDITURES ARE JUST UNDER 13 MILLION.
SO SO THERE'S A SLIGHT DEFICIT OF THE 162,000.
BUT STILL, CARRYING A 34% CASH BALANCE WITHIN THAT FUN.
IT HELPS US NOT HAVE TO BORROW BUT STILL WITHIN OUR RANGE OF HOW MUCH WE ARE ABLE TO HAVE. THAT FUND ONCE THAT DEBT IS RETIRED, IT JUST GOES AWAY UNLESS WE HAVE ANOTHER CAPITAL REFERENDUM. SO EVENTUALLY WE ARE JUST RETIRING OUT OF THAT TAX RATE IS GOING DOWN EVERY YEAR.
>> WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON, PLEASE? >> I THINK I'VE MISSED A PAGE.
>> THE BOTTOM OF THIS WOULD BE PAGE THREE.
BUT IT IS NOT REALLY PAGE THREE. IT IS PEACH STREET IN THE
>> ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS NOT FUN TO READ. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I CAN READ IT. I KNOW.
>> SO THIS OF THE OPERATIONS FUND.
>> THANKS, JUST. NOW I REALLY CAN'T SEE IT.
>> THIS IS THE OPERATIONS FUND WORTH 103 OH.
HE WANTED TO GO THROUGH THIS ONE? SO STEPHANIE COMPLETES THE OPERATIONS FUND PREDOMINATELY WE BOTH KIND OF WRITTEN REFERENDUM AND I DO EDUCATION IN THAT.
>> IT COULD BE IT COULD BE. IT COULD BE BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE
SO IN REVENUE, EXPECTED IN 2024. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE OKAY HERE IT IS $21 MILLION. CHANGING THE AMOUNT.
BUT A LITTLE OVER 60. AND FOR --
>> OR -- STEPHANIE E-MAILED IT. >> YEAH.
YOU CAN KIND OF LOAD UP -- >> RIGHT ON YOUR SCREEN IF YOU
WANT. >> AND WE EXPECT IN TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF A LITTLE OVER 60, WHICH WOULD LEAVE US WITH 105 —-DASH AND SO KEEPING A PRETTY HEALTHY CASH BALANCE IN THERE. AND THIS IS THE FUND THAT A LOT OF THE REFERENDUM EXPENDITURES HAS TO GET MOVED TO, THIS WAS A
LOT OF CHANGE. >> SO THIS FUND HAS THE
>> COULD YOU MOVE IT UP, PLEASE? >> THIS FIRM USED TO TRANSFER TO THE EDUCATION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT NO LONGER DOES THAT.
IS NOT RECEIVED A TRANSFER. OTHER AREAS IN HERE, THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF BOARD APPROVED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO ADDING SCHOOL ATHLETIC TRAINERS TO THE JUNIOR HIGH DUE TO THE FILING OF, YOU KNOW, EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AND THAT WAS A SAFETY ISSUE.
A LOCATION WHICH WAS ESTIMATED ABOUT 180,000 EUROS WAS ADDED IN HERE AS WELL AND THIS IS WHERE THE PROPERTY-CASUALTY INSURANCE HAVE AN IMPACT FOR US. SO THAT IS FACTORED IN HERE AS
WELL. >> CAN YOU GIVE -- I HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT AGAIN. SOME EXAMPLES OF RAN.
WHAT WE HAVE. BECAUSE THIS IS A REVENUE.
SO WE GET RAN. CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME EXAMPLES OF WHERE WE GET SOME RENT, THIS MORNING, FINDING COMING IN, RIGHT? AND THE PREMIER SOCCER, YOU APPROVE THAT AGREEMENT EVERY YEAR.
WE HAVE SOME CHURCHES THAT RAN. WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUTH TEAMS.
>> SO WHENEVER ANYBODY UTILIZES OUR FACILITIES, THEY HAVE A
MENTAL AGREEMENT. >> DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY FALL ON THAT FACILITY RENTAL PROCEDURE.
>> SO PARENT PERSPECTIVE GOVERNMENTS.
WOULD BE TO CHARGE AND SHOULD -- SPOKE WITH ABOUT A ONE-TIME RENT? IF SOMEONE WANTED TO RENT OR ATTRACT. ORDER TO RENT ONE OF THE BIG
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GEMS OR SOMETHING LIKE CORRECT? >> THE GROUPS THAT QUALIFY.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> AND I THINK -- WAS THERE A
PERCENTAGE? >> 75% OF THE RESTAURANT HAD TO BE OUR STUDENTS. AND THEY HAVE TO BE BASED HERE
THANK YOU. AND THERE'S RULES LIKE OUR PIERRE NOUJAIM ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT DISCLOSE.
THEY DON'T PAY A RENTAL FEE. THEY ARE PART OF THE CATEGORY OF GROUP IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT WOULD BE THAT DOES NOT PAY BOY SCOUTS, GIRL SCOUTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT HAVE ACCESS BUT THEY DON'T, ARE NOT CHARGE. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
>> SO WOULD KADRI, YOU KNOW, OF WHOEVER WE ARE PROVIDING FOR THOSE THAT FALL INTO THAT? OR WHERE DO WE ROLL THAT OUT?
CAN WE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AND WHAT IS
ENCOMPASSING IN THAT NUMBER? >> PANIS RIGHT UNDER JOIN SERVICES. THAT WAS IN 2022.
ONLY TIME THAT WE HAVE USED THE OPERATION FUND FOR THE.
UP AND TRANSFER TUITION. IT CAN BE WHEN WE PAY OTHER PRIVATE SCHOOLS FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT ARE MANY TO SHOW -- TO DOE.
IT COULD BE VOCATIONAL. IT COULD BE -- WHAT ELSE?
>> ACCESS BECAUSE LIKE PRIVATE, LIKE HAVE A STUDENT PLACEMENT THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT. WHERE THERE'S AN EXCESS COST CONCERNS, WE COULD PUT RECENTLY FIXERS A TRANSFER TUITION AS WELL. WORK WITH THE WORK WITH EPPE RESPECTS TO THOSE WE KNOW ORGERON FUTURES FOR, RIGHT? WHERE. BE.
>> OKAY. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, IF WE HAVE A SCENARIO WHERE A CHILD IS GOING TO A CHARTER SCHOOL BUT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR IEPS, THAT IS IN THIS AS WELL? OR THIS IS PREVIOUSLY RESPECT THAT WOULD BE HAROLD TO THE
SERVICE PLANS WITH -- >> PUBLIC CHARTER.
>> ACTUAL BOUNDARIES. >> OKAY, GOT IT.
SO IS THAT IN THE TRANSFER TUITION NUMBER?
>> THEY WOULD TYPICALLY BE CHARGED EDUCATION.
>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> MJ LEE, THE WHOLE IDEA WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS WAS THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE TUITION TO SUPPORT THEIR KIDS. BUT WITH THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS, THAT IS MANDATORY AND SET ASIDE THAT IT IS IN ACTUALLY AND ALL OF OUR GRANDPARENTS, NOT JUST SPECIAL EDUCATION BUT ECZEMA BECAUSE IT USED TO BE IF WE HAD A STUDENT WHO HAD A PLACE MEANT DUE TO THEIR LEAST RESTRICTIVE ENVIRONMENT BEING IN A PLACEMENT OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICT, THE STATE.
UP MOST OF THAT AND MIDYEAR LAST YEAR THEY CHANGE THAT.
NOT WHAT YOU USED TO USED TO COST THE DISTRICT 12 TO $1,500 A YEAR NOW CAN COST AS MUCH AS 25,000.
UP FRONT AND SO THAT IS REALLY WITHIN EDUCATION, WE INCREASE THE NUMBER SIGNIFICANTLY TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE FOR THAT.
JUST BECAUSE IT IS A REAL THING. ESPECIALLY IN A PLACE THIS SIZE.
U.S. DISTRICTS 012 A YEAR AND A DISTRICT OUR SIZE, YOU SEE FOUR
OR FIVE. >> AND WE CLARIFIED THAT IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAN -- WE ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO DO THAT NO MATTER HOW MANY STUDENTS DON'T EXPECT THE UP.
>> SHOW UP AT NEED THAT SOMETHING THAT LEGALLY WE HAVE TO PAY FOR.
THANK YOU. >> ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE EXPENDITURES? THERE MORE HE SLIDES TO COME IN.
WE CAN GET A LOT MORE DETAIL. >> OKAY.
THE NEXT FUND IS THE RAINY DAY FUND.
THIS ONE IS PRETTY BORING. BECAUSE IT IS ESSENTIALLY WE BUDGET IT JUST TO PROTECT US IF WE HAD SOMETHING THAT CAME UP, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO BE RESPONSIVE OR IN THE EVENT OF PROJECTS, WE WOULD SIMPLY HAVE THIS APPROPRIATION THERE.
AND THEN IT GETS REPAID. UNLESS WE INFORM THE BOARD AS WAS AND SO ESSENTIALLY YOU CAN SEE THAT 13 MILLION I THINK IT IS 15 MINUTES, 5,000, 156. YOU CAN SEE HISTORICALLY AS WELL AS GOING FORWARD, WE ARE JUST STICKING TO THE NUMBER.
WE ARE NOT ADDING TO THAT POINT EVERY YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DAY. ALL RIGHT.
NEXT IS THE PENSION BOND. >> WELL.
I ONLY HAD IT ONCE. >> SO THE PENSION BOND, I
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THINK -- WAS IT 2005 WHEN THE -- >> HAS.
OF LIVE SO BACK SPEC IN 2005, WHEN THE STATE FIGURED OUT THAT THE PENSION WAS NOT SUSTAINABLE, THEY HAD TO BASICALLY EXECUTE SUMTER'S BOOK THAT IS A -- THEY HAD TO -- YOU GET SOME LEGISLATION TO GET INTO BASICALLY FORWARD FUN AND SO ESSENTIALLY, THEY EVALUATE EVERY SCHOOL EMPLOYEE THAT WAS PART OF THE PENSION, HOW MANY DAYS THEY HAD, WHAT IT WAS WORTH AND IT WOULD HAVE TO SELL BONDS ESSENTIALLY TO A FORWARD FROM THAT. THAT IS THE PRODUCT OF WHAT WE ARE PAYING OFF. SO THIS IS ONE THAT NO, IT IS NOT LIMITED TO THERE'S NOTHING IN 2025 AND 236.
WE HAVE ONE PAYMENT IN 2024. AND THEN WE RETIRE THAT DEBT TO THE DISTRICT. SO THAT IS A GOOD THING.
IT IS NOT PART OF OUR STANDING THE LEAGUE NUMBER.
SO IT JUST GOES DOWN EVERY YEAR AND WE WILL RETIRE IT OUT.
AND I THINK IF YOU HAVE PAID ANY ATTENTION TO THE STATE PENSION, IT IS FULLY FUNDED, I MEAN, IT IS ACTUARIALLY SOUND.
IT IS A GREAT THING. SO I THINK WE HAD A LOT OF FORESIGHT TO MAKE THAT CORRECTION NOW.
WE WILL BE GRANTED A RETIRED ACADEMIC SURE.
NEXT IS EVERYBODY'S FAVORITE REFERENDUM FUND.
JEFF, CAN YOU ZOOM IN ON THAT, PLEASE.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET FOH IN ANYTIME, YOU CAN SEE THE TAX LEVY FOR THIS BOND IS 23931 TO 32.
THAT IS WHAT IS GENERATED BY A RATE OF .195.
NORMALLY MIGHT BUILD AND SOME THINGS IN ADVERTISEMENTS THAT INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT US, TO ENSURE THE RATE IS HIGH ENOUGH TO COVER THE LEVY AND VICE VERSA.
BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVITY AROUND THIS.
WE SAID IT WOULD BE 24 MILLION FOR THE TAX LEVY.
THIS IS JUST UNDER THE MARK BY ABOUT $68,000.
I THINK THE QUESTION FOR US HERE IS ANCILLARY TAXES THAT ARE GENERATED AS PART OF THE TOPIC SO WHEN YOU SEE THE TOTAL REVENUE IS 25.329, THAT IS THOSE ANCILLARY TAXES THAT DRIVE THAT NUMBER UP. PUT THE LEVY ITSELF IS 43931 TO 32. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT
REFERENDUM. >> THAT IS THE LATEST WITH THE PROJECTED DAVIES. THE BEST KEARNAN WE HAVE.
AND THAT IS AT THE 1995. >> YES, SIR.
>> AND WANTS TO KNOW WHAT THE ACRONYM IS.
COMMERCIAL VEHICLE. >> I SAID IT EARLY.
>> YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS THIS.
>> SO IF YOU GO INTO EXPENDITURES, YOU CAN SEE INSTRUCTION REGULAR PROGRAMS. BECAUSE -- SO AS YOU REMEMBER, WE -- BOARD APPROVED REVENUE SPENDING PLAN.
IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC. .9 MILLION FOR I THINK MAINTAINING CLASS SIZES THAT BROKE EVERYTHING DOWN.
SO ESSENTIALLY, THAT 21.6 MILLION TIMES EXACTLY TO THE NUMBER THAT IS IN THE REVENUE SPENDING PLAN THAT THE BOARD APPROVED AT THEIR CHOICE FOR MEETING.
SUPPORT SERVICES FOR STUDENTS THESE ARE THE SROS.
BE THEY ARE CONSIDERED SUPPORT SERVICES FOR STUDENTS AND THAT IS REALLY THEIR FUNCTION. SO THAT IS WHAT THAT NUMBER IS THTHAT NUMBER IS THERE, THAT 927,000.
THAT PICKS UP THE ADDITIONAL SROS THAT ARE PART OF THE C.O.O.
AND DIRECTORS, SAFETIES. PLAN TO EXPAND OUR OFFERINGS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER SAFETY INITIATIVES RELATED TO THE DEPARTMENT FORVIS THE SERVICES 10-POINT THE ITEM THAT IS SUPPORT SERVICES -- SERVICES SECURITY SERVICES. THAT IS SPECIFICALLY NOW JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE WERE NOT SPENDING 15 AND $18 MILLION ON THIS IN 22 AND 23. THAT WAS A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM.
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD TO SHIFT AROUND BETWEEN REFERENDUM AND WHAT WE USED TO HAVE IN THERE THAT USED TO BE I THINK THE FACILITIES NUMBER FOR MAINTENANCE OF BUILDINGS.
SO THAT 663388, THAT COVERS ALL OF THE SECURITIES SERVICES WITHIN THE DISTRICT. IT COVERS SUPPLIES FOR ALL THE BUILDINGS. IT COVERS MR. JOHNSON'S SALARY AND BENEFIT OFFERING AND THERE AS WELL.
BUT THAT IS WHERE COLLECT FOR TRAFFIC IN THE MORNINGS, IF THEY HAVE TO BE IN A BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED EXTRA SUPPORT.
THAT IS WHERE THAT IS COMING OUT OF, SEPARATE AND APART FROM SROS. BUT IT IS ALL TO THE REVENUE SPENDING PLAN. THIS IS WHERE IN THE 2024 BUDGET YEAR, I HOPE IS -- I TO SAY I HOPE BUT IF AND WHEN WE ARE
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FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE THAT REFERENDUM ALIGNED, IT IS WHAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO SIMPLY RUN A REPORT, THE REVENUE TO EXPENSE. PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE.IT IS VERY CLEAN. IT IS VERY EASY TO SAY, HERE IS THE REVENUE PLAN AND HERE IS WHAT WE SPENT.
SO I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTANDING THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. AND DEMONSTRATE ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT WE HAVE DONE WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD DO.
>> I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT THIS REFERENDUM WILL PASS.
REFERENDUM DOES NOT PASS AWAY LOOKING AT A LOT OF IMPORTANT ITEMS IN THIS SECTION. SECTION.
THAT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THESE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL HAVE TO BE CUT. IT MEANS THAT CURRENTLY, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE IT BUDGETED TO COME OUT OF THIS FUND TO SUPPORT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. CORRECT?
>> CORRECT EXPECT AND IF, IF, A LITTLE WORD THAT MEANS BIG THING. THE REFERENDUM DOES NOT PASS, THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SEE.
>> SO WE PREPARED THE BUDGET WITH THE ASSUMPTION, PRESUMPTION THAT WE -- WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
IF WE ARE NOT, OUR DEPARTMENT OF GOVERNMENT FINANCE LOCAL BUDGET REP IS AWARE OF ANY DISTRICT THAT HAS A REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT. WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY REACH OUT TO THEM ON, YOU KNOW, WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 8TH.
AND TALK TO THE PLAN AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THEY WON'T ISSUE THE UNTIL THEY HAVE TO REDUCE THIS.
AND THAT NORMALLY HAPPENS AT THE END OF DECEMBER.
SO THERE WOULD BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION IN THOSE TWO MONTHS.
A BUTTON AS WE HAVE TALK ABOUT THE WE WERE NOT HAVE -- DO YOU
WANT TO SHARE WITH THE CLASS? >> SORRY.
>> I'M SORRY. >> SO I GUESS I JUST WANT TO RE-RATE FOR THE PUBLIC OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING THIS IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT THIS SAYING, GOODNESS SAKES, IF IT DOES NOT COMMUNICATE DOES THAT MEAN OUR WHOLE SECURITY SYSTEM, IT IS NOW CUT. RIGHT? THAT'S SAFETY INITIATIVE IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING WE'RE
GOING TO SAY BOOM. >> NO, IT IS NOT RELATED TO THE POST HOW THE BUDGET IS DESIGNED IS NOT NECESSARILY HOW THERE IS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. AND AS I THINK WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BUDGET CUTS ARE A POLICY DECISION OF THE BOARD AND SO THERE'S BOARD REPRESENTATION ON THE BUDGET REDUCTION TASK FORCE.
ULTIMATELY, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD COME THROUGH. I THINK, A MEAN, THERE IS A SNIFF, IN A MATTER OF PUBLIC INPUT AND DISCUSSION AND THEN THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE WOULD WORK TO.
BUT NO IT IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS, OH, OKAY, IT DID NOT PASS AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO -- NOT THAT WAY AT ALL.
>> THANK YOU -- >> WE WILL GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. THANK YOU.
>> COULD YOU EXPLAIN ITEMS THAT COULD BE IN MISCELLANEOUS.
>> OH, MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE. >> UH-HUH.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROJECTED OUT FOR 24 OR 23.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS THERE IN 22.
JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE. MISCELLANEOUS GENERALLY DID ACCOUNTING MANUALS SPECIFIES WHAT CAN BE CONSIDERED MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES. SO IT COULD BE -- SHOW, GOODNESS. I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ACCOUNTING MANUAL, MISCELLANEOUS. YOU COULD HAVE SOMEBODY THAT DAMAGE SOMETHING AT SCHOOL AND HAS TO REPAY US, MIGHT GO IN THERE. HERE IN A REFERENDUM.
IT COULD GO IN THERE. INTEREST HAS ITS OWN ACCOUNT.
>> MAYBE WE COULD JUST FOLLOW UP AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
>> YEAH, LIKE I SAID, SPECIFIED SO WE CAN'T JUST DECIDE IT ANYTHING TO PUT IN THERE. IT HAS TO FALL OF THE CATEGORIES. AND STEPHANIE LOOKING IT UP FOR YOU. RIGHT NOW.
>> FOR SUPPORT SERVICES FOR STUDENTS AND SORRY, SOME OF FOR STORES THAT WE HAVE NOW ARE SPLIT CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
CORRECT? ARE THESE ADDITIONAL HEADCOUNT GOING TO BE CONTINUE THE SAME SPIRIT OR ARE WE ASSUMING 100%
COST OF THESE? >> AND BASING IT ON THE SAME SPLIT AND I EXCLUDED THAT BASED ON WHAT THE LAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS OF INCREASES IN COMPENSATION WITH THE CITY HAVE BEEN WHEN WE SEE IT. IT WANTS US ON AVERAGE ABOUT
60,000 A YEAR PER OFFICER. >> A PERSPECTIVE THERE'S A COUPLE AS TO THIS. THAT I KNOW MR. LING AND GUS JOHNSON ARE AWARE OF, WHERE THERE'S SROS THAT MIGHT PUSH COULD BE POTENTIALLY OFFICER BUT IT IS OUR EMPLOYEE.
AND SO THERE'S SOME CONTINGENCY BUILT IN THERE FOR THAT.
ALSO BUILT INTO THAT IS DOLLARS FOR TRAINING FOR EVERY SRO, IT IS, CONTINUE THE LEAD. IN THE DIRT.
LOWS WILL BE EXPENSES THAT WE WILL PICK UP.
AS WELL AS THE TRAVEL EXPENSE THERE'S A LOT OF THE SCHOOLK- SAFETY STUFF THAT IS FREE BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY MILEAGE.
AND THEN AS WE GO INTO ADVANCE AND THEN IF WE ARE ADDING CAPACITY, THIS, TOSS TO, THOSE FOLKS TRAINED AS WELL AND SOME SORT OF SUPPLIES, SUPPLY PIECES FOR THEM FOR THINGS THEY NEED IN THE BUILDING. THE BALL OF THAT IN 2022, OVER 31,000 OF IT WAS A REFUND FOR THE STATE OF INDIANA FOR AN APPOINTMENT. WE HAD A LOT OF FRAUDULENT UNEMPLOYMENT CLAIMS. DURING COVID.
AND IN THERE WERE -- THERE WAS A REBATE -- A REFUND THAT GOES FOR
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AN INVOICE WE PAID AND THEN A LOT OF IT IS BANK FEES.RECORD THE SCHOOLS PAY US BACK FEES ONCE THEY COLLECT.
>> ONE QUICK QUESTION. FOR INSTRUCTION REGULAR PROGRAMS IN 21.6 MILLION, THE -- I FLIPPED BACK A FEW PAGES TO THAT AVERAGE TEACHER SALARY IS AROUND 65,000.
>> THE SALARY IS JUST NOT BENEFITS.
THAT IS DIFFERENT. IF YOU DO THE STRAIGHT MATH, IT IS LIKE 332 TEACHERS. SO WE ARE ADDING THE BENEFITS,
ANYTHING THERE. >> HAVE GOT ALL OF THE -- YOU
GOT -- >> WE DON'T -- THERE'S NO --
>> GOODNESS GRACIOUS. >> WELL, LET'S WORK ON IT.
>> WE'RE GOING TO BE BARGAINING. >> SECOND NOTE.
>> OR WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SIGNING BONUS FOR TEACHERS.
NO, IT IS -- THAT HAS ALL THE BENEFITS.
ALL OF THE TAX ANNUITY ET CETERA ANNUITY ET CETERA COMPETITORS AROUND 20% OF THE YOU HAVE OTHER MEDICAL CENTERS MEDICAL BENEFITS. THAT IS WHERE IT IS REALLY BASED ON ROUGHLY ABOUT 100,000 BECAUSE OUR FAMILY PLAN FOR INSURANCE WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IS PRETTY EXPENSIVE.
>> THAT GETS YOU DOWN AROUND 200 -- WELL, IF IT IS JUST 100 TO 260 FEATURES. I THINK WHEN WE DID OUR PRESENTATION ABOUT WHAT THE REFERENDUM IS GO GOING TO THE A, IT WASN'T THAT MANY OR ARE WE TRANSFERRING SOME THAT WERE
ALREADY EXISTING PER. >> NO, IT IS THAT MANY.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT WE DID NOT WAS IN THE AREA OF COMPENSATION TO MAINTAIN COMPETITIVE SALARY AND BENEFITS.
SO I EQUALIZED IT TO HELP WE COULD FIGURE THE OTHER NUMBERS SO IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT. AND THAT WAS A NATE MILLER NUMBER TO THE 90 STAFF MEMBERS. BUT AGAIN, IT IS, YES, IT IS BASED ON TO GET TO BUT I THINK ABOUT IT, SO MAINTAIN CLASSES.
WE ACTUALLY TOOK THE ACTUAL DISTRICT ENROLLMENT AND CHANGED ALL OF THE CLASS SIZE AVERAGES INTO A HIGHER NUMBER TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY TEACHERS THAT PAID FOR.
AND THAT ARE COMING WAS 59. >> OKAY.
THAT IS WE GOT THE. >> AND SO THEN WE LOOKED AT THE OTHER RELATED PROGRAMS, SO YOU KNOW, YOUR TEACHERS AND RESIDENTS. WHO ARE MAYBE YOUR TEACHER DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST. OR ORCHESTRA, JUST ALL OF THE PROGRAMMATIC, WE ESSENTIALLY THAN THAT NUMBER IS BASED ON ACTUAL PHYSICAL TEACHERS. THAT IS HOW THAT IS HAVE WE GOT TO THE NUMBER. THAT NIGHT BILLING WAS BASED ON WHAT IT WOULD COST TO GROW WITHIN OUR CONTRACTS.
IN TERMS OF WHAT WE INVEST OVER TIME.
SO, I MEAN, IT IS -- IT JUST SORT OF EQUATED WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE OTHER STAFF AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT COST TO DO THE INCREMENTAL REASON THAT STAFFERS SEE FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR OF
SERVICE. >> SO THIS COULD BE BOTH
>> AS WELL AS VERSUS EXISTING ONES.
WITH A DIFFERENT CONTRACT. >> YES.
>> FOR THE PURPOSES OF ACCOUNTING, IT WAS A LOT SIMPLER FOR US. FOR SIMPLY IS NOW A DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE COMPENSATION AS OPPOSED TO SAYING WE ARE GOING TO TAKE 2% OF EVERY TEACHER AND PUT THAT PART OF THEIR SALARY AND REFERENDUM AND PAY 98% OF IT AT OF EDUCATION. IS A NIGHTMARE FROM AN ACCOUNTING STANDPOINT. SO IT WAS EASIER TO QUALIFY THAT 2% IN TWO A DOLLAR THAT THEN WENT, YOU KNOW, IN A TEACHER SO
WE COULD TRACK IT BACK. >> THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANKS. >> AS FAR AS ALL, YOU KNOW, ZEROS THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE COMMUNITY SERVICE, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, SUPPORT SERVICES, SCHOOL AND RESTORATION PICTURE WHICH IS KIND OF GO KIND OF THROUGH WITH THOSE LINE ITEMS WOULD BE OR WOULD FALL INTO THOSE BUCKETS SHOULD THOSE
NUMBERS CHANGE. >> WHERE THEY WON'T CHANGE IN
BECAUSE THE REVENUES FOR THE SPENDING PLAN HAS AS.
SO AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WE HAVE AN ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNER WHERE WE HAVE TO GO IN AND REPORT.
THESE ARE ALL BASED ON AND I THINK -- I CAN'T PULL IT UP H HERE. ON THE STATE BOARD OF ACCOUNTS WEBSITE, THESE ARE BASED ON THOSE ACCOUNTS.
AND HOW THEY ARE SET UP. SO WITHIN THERE, 111, YOU KNOW, 11100'S ELEMENTARY. 112 IS MIDDLE SCHOOL.
113 IS HIGH SCHOOL. 11050 IS KINDERGARTEN.
AND IT KIND OF GOES TO EDMISTON. SO SUPPORT SERVICES LIKE THAT INSTRUCTION, THOSE ARE BASED ON THE MANUAL.
AND REFERENDUM WE WILL NOT CHANGE THEM.
BUT IF THERE'S -- I MEAN, I CAN SHARE THAT ACTUAL DOCUMENT SO THAT YOU CAN TARGET THEM BACK IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
IF I CAN PIGGYBACK ON THAT, SO IF I'M SEEING ZEROS ACROSS THE ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THIS, ON THIS BUCKET WE ARE TALK ABOUT, 0116. IT SAYS SUPPORT SERVICES INSTRUCTION AND ZEROS ACROSS. , MEDIA SERVICES, ZEROS ACROSS.
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SERVICE ACROSS.
SO NO OFFENSE BUT WHAT IS IT LISTED IN THIS AREA IF WE ARE
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PAYING NOTHING IN BUDGETING FOR IT? BECAUSE IT GOES BACK 70 YEARS IN THE PLAN THAT IF WE TAKE THOSE OUT IT ALSO DELETES THE HISTORY. IF WE HAVE EVER USED THATTHEN THAT -- OKAY. THAT IS A GOOD EXPLANATION.
I'M JUST IN-SYNC I DID NOT KNOW IF THAT MEANT THOSE THAT ARE BEING COVERED IN ANOTHER POCKET SOMEWHERE ELSE? A LOT OF THESE ARE, LIKE YOUR SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION CENTRAL SERVICES, YOU WILL SEE THOSE IN THE OPERATIONS FRONT NOW.
>> OKAY. >> AND YOU WILL NOTICE IN 22 AND 23, THERE WERE SOME OF THOSE LIKE COACH BELL, SUPPORT SERVICES PITTSBURGH CENTRAL SERVICES.
SUPPORT SERVICES. AND NOW YOU DON'T SEE THEM IN 24 AND THAT IS REFLECTIVE OF US HAVING TO MOVE THOSE EXPENDITURES FROM REFERENDUM INTO OPERATIONS.
SO WE WANTED TO SHOW THE HISTORY, SAME THING SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST. AND REFERENDUM.
THEY ARE NOW IN THE EDUCATION FUND.
>> OKAY. >> WE ARE NOT HAVING THOSE FUNDS OR NEEDING TO. SOME OF THESE SERVICES.
WE ARE HAVING THE MONIES ALLOCATED.
IT IS JUST NOT FROM THIS SPECIFIC BUCKET.
>> CORRECT. WE HAVE HAD TO MOVE THEM TO OTHER FUNDS TO MEET THE REVENUE SPENDING PLAN.
>> NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. JUST ASKING A QUESTION.
WHEN WE SEE THAT, WHETHER IT IS OPERATIONS REFERENDUM, EDUCATION, LIKE SOMETHING HAS BEEN SWITCHED OR REALLOCATED, WE HAVE AN ASTERISK OF SOURCE THAT SAYS THIS IS NOW BEGINNING THE OPERATIONS BUDGET OR FIND. THIS IS NOW IN THOSE CAME OUT OF, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION OR OPERATIONS OR --
>> WE TRACK THAT WITHIN OUR BUDGET FILES.
>> OKAY. >> SO 2024 BUDGET FILE FOR EXAMPLE, AND SO I THINK AND I ALMOST -- I MEAN, I MEAN, I DO KNOW THAT WE COULD DO IT TODAY BECAUSE WE ARE SOON TO.
BUT IF I OPENED UP THE LOTUS PLAN AND SHOW YOU, THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT HAS ABOUT 50 TABS. THAT ALL CROSS REFERENCE AND JOIN THREE. SO WHEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE ON ONE SHEET, IT CAN AFFECT 12 OTHERS. SO SOME OF IT TO STEPHANIE'S POINTS ABOUT IF YOU DELETED, IT IS GOING TO THROW OFF ALL YOUR PRIOR HISTORY. ONCE IT IS IN THERE AND WE FINALIZE IT, IT IS DONE. WHAT I CAN SAY IS THREE TO FIVE YEAR BASIS, WE WOULD PULL A BUDGET FILE AND I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE BENEFIT OF, IN A LONG SOMEBODY IS HERE BUT WE HAVE -- WORKS WITH IS STILL AND IN ACCOUNTS PAYABLE WHERE SOMETIMES IF IT PREDATES US, WE GO BACK AND SAY, DO YOU REMEMBER WHY WE DID X? SO A LOT OF IT IS MANUAL NOTES.
THERE IS NO WORK AND NOTICE WHERE I CAN MAKE THAT NOTATION.
BUT THAT PART WAS PART OF THE PURPOSES OF THIS YEAR OF HAVING AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. THAT WOULD BREAK THAT DOWN SO THAT WE COULD REFER TO IT A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENTLY IN FUTURE YEARS. BUT THAT -- WE DO TRACK IT.
BUT NOT WITHIN THE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT IS NOT GOING TO
PRINT. >> SO I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION NOW. BUT IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING LATER AND IT CAME UP THAT I WOULD NOT WANT -- OR SEE SOMETHING, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO FILE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND YOU HAVE THOSE NOTES TO SAY, HEY, WE USED TO
PAY IT HERE IN ABC. >> OR GO INTO -- I MEAN, IF YOU GO BACK TO 1987, WE MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM.
BUT I THINK WE CAN GO INTO THE FINANCIAL SYSTEMS SO IT IS SIMILAR TO THE HEALTH STAFF NEEDED TO LOOK UP THE MISCELLANEOUS UNDER REVENUE AND GET AN IDENTIFICATION OF IT THAT WAS. SO YES, I WOULD BE ABLE TO INTERVIEW PROCESS. WHAT WERE WE DOING HERE? NO SCHOOL SITE AND WE MOVED IT INTO EDUCATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REALIZE ALL OF TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THE NEW REVELATIONS SURROUNDING REFERENDA EXPENDITURES? AND AGAIN, LIMIT QUESTION, BUT I KNOW I CAN TRACK SPECIAL FINANCIALS. WE HAVE TO KEEP IT ALL.
RIGHT? LIKE IN MY CONTACTS AND REAL ESTATE, WE HAVE A SEVEN YEAR WINDOW.
RIGHT? SO TO ACTIVE PURPOSES, WHAT DO WE KEEP ACTIVE UNTIL IT GOES TO PRESENT HAVE A FILED AWAY.
TO KEEP IT JUST ALL OF IT AC ACTIVE?
>> ARE YOU TALKED ABOUT ELECTRONICALLY?
>> ELECTRONICALLY WE HAVE EVERY FILE BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF -- WE HAVE BEEN A YEAR TO BUT IF PLANS ARE LITERALLY IN THE ACCOUNTING DR DRIVES GOING BACKI DON'T EVEN KNOW SOMEONE, FOREVER. EVERY MONTH OR WHAT WE DO OF THIS, YOU DO A SAVE AS TAKE A LOOK AT THE KIND OF THING.
SO WE HAVE ALL OF THE. AS FAR AS LIKE DOCUMENT RETENTION AND STUFF. THAT IS MANDATED BY THE STATE.
WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE. SO IT IS ACTIVE UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF ROOM AND WE HAVE TO MOVE IT INTO THE COLD STORAGE DOWNSTAIRS. WE HAVE TO KEEP PHYSICAL CLAIMS
>> WE HAVE TO KEEP COMING, PERSONAL RECORDS YOU HAVE TO KEEP 75 YEARS AFTER SEPARATION. MOST PAYROLL RECORDS ARE PERMANENT. THAT IS ALL GOVERNED BY THE STATE. THEY GIVE US RETENTION SCHEDULES. BUT MOST EVERYTHING WE HAVE IN TERMS OF ELECTRONICALLY, IT IS ACCESSIBLE.
>> SO IT WOULD NOT BE HARD TO COMPARE THE TWO? WE COULD PUT THAT AT SOME TIME IF WE EVER WANTED TO.
>> WOULD HAVE TO GO IN THE PLAN YES.
>> THANK YOU. >> JUST TO POINT OUT POINT AT WORK WORKING FOR ANYONE LISTENING ONLINE I JUST THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING SO MUCH FOR
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RANDOM THINGS. IT.ME IF I'M WRONG HERE. THE WAY I'M SEEING THIS IS LAST YEAR, REVENUE FROM THE REFERENDUM WAS 27 MILLION TO 53,
>> OUR PROJECTED REVENUE FOR THE NEW REFERENDUM RENEWAL,
>> SO $2 MILLION LESS REVENUE. IS WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING TO GET
THE IF WE PASS THIS THING. >> CORRECT.
>> THEN ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, LAST YEAR FROM REFERENDUM WE SPENT 26.2 MILLION, 26.3 MILLION.
AND WE ARE GOING DOWN TO 22.6. >> I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THE BUDGET, 233 IS PROJECTED. : IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT IS PREDICTED TO. IT'S NOT ACTUAL UNTIL WE CLOSE
IN GENERAL, WE ARE EXPANDING ROUGHLY 26.
WE ARE GOING DOWN TO ROUGHLY 23. SO I KNOW IT IS -- WE HAVE BEEN ASKED MANY, MANY TIMES WHAT AVIARIES DO AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND FACTORS. WE ARE PROTECTING THEY WILL GENERATE LESS MILLION -- LESS MONEY TO BUY A COUPLE DOLLARS.
AND SPEND TWO TO 3 MILLION EUROS FROM THE REFERENDUM.
LOOKS LIKE FOR MAILING ADDRESS. >> IT IS AND IT IS NOT BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE EXCESS SO WE ARE STILL -- SO WE ARE STILL WORKING THREE, AND I THINK GETTING UP A WAY TO SAY THIS.
THE OPERATIONS FUND, ALTHOUGH THERE'S THREE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT FUNDS, THEY DO GIVE US FLEXIBILITY BETWEEN ONE ANOTHER.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPERATIONS PLAN, MAYBE THE UPS WHEN LIVE A LOT. OR IF THERE'S A LOT AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE EXPENSES. WILL, MAYBE I CAN REDUCE THE TRANSFER FOR EDUCATION BECAUSE MAYBE I NEED THOSE FUNDS WERE OVER THERE. SO, I MEAN, THERE'S A LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY OF HOW WE MOVE THINGS THROUGH WHEN WE HAVE AN IMPACT AND ONE THAT WE CAN RELY IN A DIFFERENT WAY ON ANOTHER LESSON THAT IMPACT AND SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH IS THAT TRANSFER NUMBER. THAT WILL ALL BE FINALIZED BY THE TIME WE ADVERTISE IT, NOTHING HERE THAT YOU SEE WILL BE ANY HIGHER THAN ANYTHING HERE OF ANYTHING.
IT WILL BE LOWER. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO WIN SO WELL ON THE TRANSFER THAT WE MAKE A MISTAKE AND, YOU KNOW, WE BACK OURSELVES INTO A CORNER. WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT. THE OTHER COMPONENT THAT I DO KNOW IS IF, YOU KNOW, IF I SAID 59 TEACHERS IN THAT DOLLAR IF WE COULD PUT MORE TEACHERS IN THERE, IS THAT OKAY? ISN'T IT? AND SO I HAVE REACHED OUT TO A REFERENDUM ATTORNEY TO ASK BECAUSE HONESTLY I HAVE JUST NEVER -- THIS IS MY FIRST EXPENSE WITH THE REVENUE SPENDING PLAN AND I DON'T WANT TO DO IT ON.
IF HE SAYS NO. 9059, THEN THAT CHANGES HOW WE WILL DO THIS. IT WILL NOT GO UP IF ANYTHING, IT WILL GO DOWN. SO WHEN YOU SAY FOR MARILYN, I WOULD JUST PUT OUT THERE'S SOME MONEY IN THERE THAT IS NOT YET OBLIGATED, SOME EXPENDITURES THAT ARE OBLIGATED.
>> PRETTY GOOD, IN GENERAL, OVERALL, THE PICTURE.
>> JUST LOOK AT THE LEVY. >> GOING TO GENERATE A COUPLE
>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER REFERENDUM QUESTIONS? THE NEXT PAGE IS A COMBINED FUND AND SO THIS SORT OF COMBINES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE ADVERTISE, YOU KNOW, $285 MILLION BUDGET, THAT SORT OF THE COMBINED FUNDS IN HERE I BELIEVE, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? AND ALL OF THEM. THAT BREAKS THEM DOWN IN SUMMARY JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE FUNDS TOGETHER. IN TERMS OF THE REVENUES, EXPENDITURES OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU GUYS ARE IMPROVING AS A BOARD AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
DEEPMIND NOT TO GO ARE SEEING THAT DONATION PLANS OR GRANTS.
THOSE THINGS DON'T GET BUDGETED TO THIS PROCESS.
UNDER MY FIRST YEAR THERE WAS A QUESTION.
YEAH, TO BUDGET? IT DOES NOT GET BUDGETED THAT WAY. THIS IS THE THEY CONTROL FUNDS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE DEPARTMENT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FINANCE FOR APPROVAL OR WE HAVE OPTED TO TAKE THEM THERE AS WELL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME POINTS WE NEED TO WE ADVERTISE BUT THERE'S REALLY NO TAX LEVY OR REVENUE COMING IN OR EVEN EXPENDITURES FOR THE SELF-INSURANCE FUND THAT I THINK COVERS DENTAL.
THAT ONE IS A DUPLICATION OF ESSENTIALLY COMBINES ALL THE OTHER PAGES FOR MAJOR BUTTER. SO IF YOU WANT TO WIN TO IT, YOU CAN. IT IS JUST A REFERENCE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. WHAT WE LOOK LIKE OVERALL.
TOLD NEED TO GO THROUGH IT ALL, BUT DON'T NEED TO REPEAT THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT IS VERY TINY. WHAT YOU SAY FOR 2024 BUDGET TOTAL REVENUES NUMBER, WAS 296,255,448 AND TOTAL
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EXPENDITURE PROCESS. SHOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.>> OKAY. ON YOUR SHEET, IT IS NOT, THOUGH. I UNDERSTAND.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TRANSFER. >> OKAY, TAKE IT.
>> IT HAS TO DO WITH THE 21 MILLION TRANSFER.
OF ANYONE WHO IS QUITTING THEIR EYES, IT IS, 272,308,448.
WHICH THOSE KIND OF GIVE YOU THAT 20 MILLION IN BETWEEN.
SO THANK YOU. >> OF THE NEXT PAGES ARE STUDENT ENROLLMENT. IF YOU LOOK, WE CAN REVIEW IT BEGINNING AT 1985. BUT I'M PRETTY SURE MAYBE YOU WANT TO PASS ON THAT. THAT GIVES AN IDEA HOW FAR BACK THE PLAN GOES. SO WE ARE GOING TO FLIP ONE, TWO, TO THIRD PAGE WITHIN THAT GROUP OF STUDENT FUNDING.
OR STUDENT ENROLLMENT. WITH YOU --
>> OF IT THAT WAY. THERE YOU GO.
AND THEN, THANK YOU. SO IF YOU MOVE LEFT TO RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT IS LITERALLY THE ONE TO THREE FOURTHS COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT IS THE 2324 PROJECTED ENROLLMENT.
DISENROLLMENT IS BASED OFF OF ACCOUNT THAT MR. HARRISON RAN FOR ME YESTERDAY. SO WE DON'T TAKE OUR OFFICIAL COUNT WITH THE STATE TO TO GO THROUGH WHICH IS THE TRUTH.
HOOCHIE COOCHIE WE ARE A THE ROAD 221 STUDENTS.
AND THAT CHALLENGE, YOU KNOW, IS TWOFOLD FOR US.
IT IS ABOUT TO SHOOT TO STAGE FOUR.
BUT WE ARE OFFSET BY THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE LOST. BUT WHERE YOU REALLY SEE IT IS IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR HIGH SCHOOL CLASSES, AT, YOU KNOW, NINE THROUGH 12, OVER 1700 STUDENTS, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN K FOR AND WE REALLY JUST SEEING LOWER SMALLER CORRIDORS OF STUDENTS COME THROUGH, THAT WAS ALSO WAS PREDICTED BY DR. MCKEVITT IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS STUDY.
THAT WE WERE LEVEL OF AND ESSENTIALLY WHEN MORE PEOPLE UNFORTUNATELY PASSED AWAY THAT ARE OUR BOARD, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AND DROP OVERALL AND THAT IS WHAT THEY SAW IN THE LAST CENSUS. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MONITOR. AS YOU KNOW, CHOICE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE EXPANDED TO COVER AND I THINK ROUGHLY 97% OF INCOME IN THE STATE OF INDIANA. POETIC FOR US, AND BECAUSE OUR HOUSE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS SO HIGH.
MANY OF THOSE FOLKS, IF THEY WERE GOING, MAYBE THEY WERE ALREADY SITTING AND NOW ARE GETTING FUNDS.
DR. MCKIBBEN SAID WE WOULD SEE ANYWHERE FROM A 60 TO 80 STUDENTS IMPACT FROM THAT INCREAS.
AND I THINK THAT YOU CAN SORT OF SEE IT IN THE FACT THAT WE LOST OUR STUDENTS AND WE BELIEVE WE RECENTLY WENT AND I BELIEVE THAT THE SCHOLARSHIP PIECE HAS A? INTO THAT.
BUT THAT BEING SAID PROCESS. I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE STUDENTS HERE IN OUR DISTRICT THAT DON'T ATTEND SCHOOLS.
AND THAT CAN CHANGE. AND MORE CHOOSING TO COME TO THEIR SCHOOL. AS FAR AS ACTUAL PUBLISHING, WE SEE THAT REDUCTION THERE IN 2023.
AND I WILL JUST SAY AND I KNOW WE WILL DISAGREE.
WE OFTEN DO IN THIS. WITH WHAT I SEE IN THE BUILDING COMING IN OUR COMMUNITY, ALL ACROSS FROM DELAWARE, FALL CREEK, AND WAYNE TOWNSHIP, AND THE BAGGIE PERMITS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN NEIGHBORHOODS BEING, IT IS JUST -- AND WHO ARTWORK WITH DAILY BY HOME THERE ARE CHILDREN MOVING TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECTED WE CAN GO BY GUESSING.
I STILL THINK PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE THAT OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT
IS CONTINUING TO GROW. >> DOES THIS PROJECTED NUMBER INCLUDE REFUGEE OR DISPLACED HOMES STUDENTS? DO WE PROJECT THAT IN THERE WERE NO.
>> IS BASED ON THE DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY.
AND HIGH-LOW WE BELIEVE BELIEVE HAVE A POINTS OF CONTACT WITH THOSE WITH PRESENT WHEN THEY HAD A BUNCH OF REFUGEES TO THE FACT THAT IN. AND THAT THERE'S A COMMUNICATION PIECE TO NOTICE. CERTAIN DIFFERENT CULTURES, THEY WILL MOVE IN A GROUP AND SO WE KIND OF ANTICIPATE THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE MAYBE WE WILL NEED THE SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IT IS ACCOUNTED FOR AS A FACTOR IN THE STUDY? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF IT PICKS UP EVERYTHING. BUT SOMETIMES YOU DON'T KNOW IF AT THE TIME YOU DID WAS THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN OPTION. AND IT WILL NOT ANTICIPATE IT WHERE WE SEE IT THEN IS BEING AWARE AS WE MONITOR, YOU KNOW,
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THE NUMBERS AND THEN WE KNOW YOU NEED TO ADD SERVICES.I WOULD SAY IF IT IS A KNOWN COMMODITY, YES, IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN KNOWN AT THE TIME, THEN, IT LIKELY KNOW, IT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE.
>> THANK YOU. >> THE OTHER PIECE I WOULD TELL YOU ABOUT TRANSFER STUDENTS WE DO GET A REPORT ANNUALLY FROM THE -- I THINK IT COMES OUT IN DECEMBER.
IT REPORTS TO US STUDENTS THAT HAVE TRANSFERRED OUT AND IT GIVES US A BREAKDOWN. SO WE KNOW IF THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT MIGHT BE NONTRADITIONAL SUCH AS A CHARTER. IT COULD BE A CHOICE SCHOLARSHIPS STUDENT. IT COULD BE OTHER TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS THAT ACCEPT TRANSFER STUDENTS OR HAVE OPEN BOUNDARIES. WE DO NOT HAVE OPEN BOUNDARIES HERE BUT YOU HAVE TO LIVE HERE IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND SCHOOL YEAR. UNLESS YOU APPLY UNDER THOSE VERY FEW CHARACTERS IN A STATE LAW.
YOU NOTICE THE STUDENTS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, FOSTER CARE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE DO MONITOR THAT.
AND SO IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE DECEMBER REPORT THIS YOU ARE GOING TO SEE, DO WE HAVE A SPIKE.
BECAUSE THERE'S ABOUT 10 YEARS OF HISTORY, AND I THINK, ON IT.
TO SEE IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IN MAYBE YOUR NONPUBLIC ENROLLMENT AND YOU KNOW HOW IT CORRELATES TO MRS. THOMAS' POINT.
SO THAT IS JUST ANOTHER PIECE THAT WE WILL LOOK AT.
BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO THE PART OF THIS THAT IS ABOUT WHAT WE CALL BECAUSE SCHOOL OF IT.
THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF KIDS WE'RE GOING TO LOSE FROM IT INTO NINTH GRADE SIMPLY BECAUSE OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE BOTH WELL OVER 3,000 STUDENTS. WE HAD THE SAME FACTORS.
AND IT IS THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT THEY CALL IT.
BE HIGH SCHOOL AFFECTED REPUBLICAN USED 200 KIDS FROM BEING THERE IN THAT. THAT IS OUR HISTORY.
SO WE WILL MONITOR THAT FACTOR. WE ARE NOT ANTICIPATING THAT SADLY, ALL OF OUR TRANSFER STUDENTS ARE GOING TO COME BACK IN. BUT WE DO HAVE CAPACITY IF WE
NEEDED TO. >> ARE YOU ABLE TO DO KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY STUDENTS BELIEVE TO BE HOMESCHOOLED.
>> THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT AS EASY.
SO IF WE ARE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN TO HOMESCHOOL, IF THE PARENT TELLS REGISTRAR THAT, THERE'S A CODE WITHIN SKYWARD.
JEFF, CORRECT ME IF I'M ON. THAT THERE IS A CLASS, THAT IS A CLASS THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE. THE ESTATE, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THEY KEEP TRACK OF STUDENTS WITH IN HOMESCHOOLED PIECE OF IT. BUT NOW WITH ESA'S, WITH THE EDUCATION SAVINGS ACCOUNTS, AND SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS, IF YOU WILL THAT ARE A BRANCH OUT OF CHOICE, THEY MAY BE CHECKING THAT A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY. BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT IT STATED THAT WE GET BACK. IF THE PARENT WITHDRAWS THE STUDENT UNLESS IT IS A COMPULSORY ATTENDANCE ISSUE BEFORE WITHDRAWAL, WE WILL STILL BE REPORTING IT IF A PARENT WOULD -- WITHDREW A STUDENT TO HOMESCHOOL AND ARE NOT AWARE OF A REPORT UNLESS JEFFREY THOSE -- ARE YOU AWARE OF IT?
>> SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE, LIKE, I KNOW VARIOUS CHURCHES HAVE STARTED KIND OF A HOMESCHOOL PROGRAM.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALL THOSE KIDS, RIGHT? PURPOSE. IF.
>> IF THEY DON'T. >> ACCOUNTED FOR, I THINK.
>> NO, THEY WOULD NOT BE PREPARED IF THEY HAVE A HOME SCHEDULE, AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT DEPENDS.
WITH A BE INTERESTED IN GETTING FUNDING FROM THE STATE OR NOT? AND THAT WAS KIND OF COMPEL THAT BECAUSE IF THE PARENTS ARE TAKING -- THAT IS WHAT -- I RECALL US HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE. NO, WE WOULD NOT KNOW.
THEY WILL NOT BE CAPTURED IN THAT.
PARENTS OR GUARDIANS NOTIFY US IF THEY WITHDREW A STUDENT TO HOMESCHOOLED. WHETHER -- AND REPUBLIC IN TO SEE IF THEY ARE BEING CLAIMED BY ANOTHER DISTRICT PER SE OR COUNTED BY ANOTHER DISTRICT. BUT IF THEY WENT TO WHAT YOU HAVE DESCRIBED, IF THEY ARE AT A NON? AND THEY ARE NOT ACTUALLY LIKE, RECEIVING FUNDS THE DISTRICT, THEY -- THEIR NONPUBLIC IS NOT GETTING FUNDS FROM THE STATE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW. SO IT IS IMPERATIVE.
>> WHEN DO WE KNOW OUR DOES NOT JUST THE STUDENT COUNT BUT THE FUNDING FORMULA WITH THE COMPLEXITY SCORE, ALL THAT STUFF THAT GIVES US OUR 67TH ZERO FIVE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
STUDENT. WHAT DOES THAT GET FACTORED IN
AND MADE FINAL? >> SO IT IS FACTORED IN RIGHT NOW INTO THIS OVERALL PLAN. BUT THE COUNT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE COUNTS THE IMPACT THAT. SO THAT NUMBER FLUCTUATES MONTHLY. NOW, NOT EVERY PIECE OF IT DOES.
PUT THE OVERALL NUMBER BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND, ON 10 TO, WHERE DID HAVE A FUNNY CAT. THAT WILL DETERMNE RUNNING BACK TO JULY 1. BUT THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FUN A COUNT IN FEBRUARY. IT WILL COVER IS FROM JANUARY TO JUNE. ON DECEMBER 1, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPECIAL EDUCATION PEOPLE AND WARM AND COMFORTABLE IMPACT THAT COMPONENT OF THE FUNDING. AND I THINK ALSO, ON OCTOBER 1ST, I THINK IS THE 38TH COUNT FOR CAREER AND TECHNICAL AND. THAT IS ANOTHER COMPONENT.
AND I THINK ALSO IN OCTOBER, WE HAVE THE GRADUATION DATA.
SO WE KNOW HOW MANY ACADEMIC HONORS THIS AND THAT.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT THEN GET PUMPED IN AND RETROACTIVE. SO IT VARIES.
WE CAN GO ONLINE FOR DOE AND DOWNLOAD CONFLICT, MOSTLY WHICH
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IS WHAT WE DO. LIKE THE STATEMENT THAT TELLS US ALL OF THAT BREAKDOWNS PER MONTH.>> I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THAT WE ARE WILDLY OFF.
>> IT WOULD BE VERY MUSICAL. I MEAN, ON AVERAGE, EVEN IN A COUPLE YEARS, YOU HAVE BEEN HERE, BUT YOU COULD GO BUT YOU COULD GO BACK TO YOUR OWN DISTRICT.
I MEAN, DOES THAT NUMBER CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN WE GO TO BUDGET AND THINGS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE ACCOUNT IS NOT JUST OVERALL COUNT, IT IS NOT JUST LOSING 100 STUDENTS, BUT LET'S SAY YOU GAIN STUDENTS THAT CHANGE YOUR COMPLEXITY, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT THINGS. IS THAT REALLY THIS IS NOT IF FACTOR THAT EVER COMES DOWN AND INTROSPECT IT DEPENDS IF YOU ARE GROWING DISTRICT. SPACE OR NOT.
BUT YOU COULD BE A DISTRICT THAT MAY BE IS SEEING A DECLINE AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 200 STUDENTS NOT TO MINIMIZE THAT BUT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR SIZE, 200 STUDENTS TO US FEELS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN 200 STUDENTS IN A DISTRICT WITH 5,000 KIDS. IT IS JUST RELATIVE.
BUT WE CAN BE PLOTLINE AS WE ARE NOW.
BUT IN SPECIAL EDUCATION WE MIGHT BE SEEING AN INCREASE.
FLUCTUATES OR THIS BIENNIUM, THEY DID AND ACTUALLY ESCALATED SOME INCREASE IN THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF SPECIAL EDUCATION PUTTING. ON THE MILD MODERATE AND SEVERE DISABILITY TYPES. THAT WERE -- WE ARE VERY MUCH NEEDED IN LONG-STANDING BECAUSE YOU -- A STUDENT WHO QUALIFIES AS SEVERE, THAT NUMBER BEING, YOU KNOW, 10,000 PLUS, THE YEAR IT SOUNDS LIKE LOT. EXCEPT WHEN I TELL YOU T THAT TO SEND THEM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A OFF-SITE LOCATION, WE HAVE TO PUSH 40 TO $50,000 A YEAR. SIMON, OF 5% INCREASE IN YOUR SUPER STUDENTS IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACTFUL BUDGETARY IMPACT THAN A 5% AND YOUR SPEECH-LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT IS RELATIVE.
JUST SORT OF DEPENDS. WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
SO OR IN ALSO YOU KNOW. SO WITHIN OUR YOU KNOW POPULATION LAST YEAR, WE GREW BY ROUGHLY 200 STUDENTS.
WE SAW NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE STATE.
ANTI-BLACKNESS TO MY POINT BREAK IS REALLY, THE MORE STUDENTS WE HAVE TO COME IN THAT NEED ADDITIONAL SERVICES, MORE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SEE IN. BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL WE ARE BECAUSE WE GET THE FUNDING DIFFERENCE GETS GREATER THE MORE SERVICES SOMEBODY NEEDS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GIVING MORE MONEY.
PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS THEY NEED.
EXACTLY. SO TIME FOR ANOTHER CONVERSATION. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE SOMETIME AND THAT AS THE DISTRICT CHANGES WITH THOSE NEEDS, WE ARE NOT JUST MISSING OUT ON PER STUDENT FUNDING. WE ARE MISSING OUT ON VERY PARTICULAR STUDENT FUNDING THAT GROWS IN THAT GAP.
>> AND WHAT I WOULD SAY AND I USE THE MY EXAMPLE BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE EXPENDITURES. SO WE HAVE SEEN A DECLINE PERHAPS IN K FOR. SO WE REDUCE BASED ON THAT IN TERMS OF THROUGH RETIREMENT, THROUGH ATTRITION, NOBODY WAS REFERRING TO ANYTHING, BUT THEN WE ADDED STAFF IN THE PROCESS BARTO STUDENTS AND SO THAT IS THE BALANCE.
SO THE FUNDING RELATIVELY, YES. UNLESS YOU ARE SEEING A HUGE SPIKE SUMMER THAT WOULD REALLY IN AN AREA THAT IS A REALLY HIGH DOLLAR GENERATOR. I WOULD SAY PREVESK, THE BIGGEST CHANGE I THINK DURING COVID WHEN THEY WERE ASSESSING, YOU KNOW, DRUG CERTIFICATION FOR AID, WE SAW AN INCREASE IN OUR OVERALL NUMBER FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH.
BUT I THINK THAT WILL TAP DOWN AS WE FACTOR TO AND KEEP IN MIND, EVERYTHING IS, IN A, 14 YEARS BEHIND TO SOME DEGREE IN SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES, CALCULATIONS THAT THEY HAVE ON THESE. PUT UP BY AND LARGE, YES.
IT IS SIMILAR. , YOU KNOW, IT DOES -- I TO SAY THAT. A BIG INCREASE, FOR SOMETHING WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE. SO CAN WE CLARIFY ELE A LITTLE T THE. SO FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW HAVE KNOW WE HAVE FOR BASIC OR GEN ED OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PUT IT, STUDENT POPULATION IS TWICE A YEAR.
THAT YOU JUST SHUT OFF A COUPLE OTHER ONES LIKE SPECIAL EDUCATION, TECH LEAD, ACADEMIC HONORS, WITHOUT GOING INTO FULL DETAIL, WHAT DETERMINES THAT? SO ACADEMIC HONORS IS WHEN YOU SAY THAT RIGHT NOW, AND YOU DID THAT COUNT AND OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, WAS THAT OFF THE STAFF THAT WE HAD FROM GRADUATION OF 2020 IN MAY? OKAY.
SO THAT IS HOW THAT ONE GOES. SAME WITH TEXT AND THEN ALL OF THEM GO OFF ON ACCOUNTS FROM LAST -- KNOW, OKAY? 38 FORM IS FOR THIS YEAR'S ENROLLMENT IN VOCATIONAL
EDUCATION. >> SO WHAT STARTED FROM AUGUST.
THAT IS WHAT GETS FED INTO THE INFORMATION.
>> CRACKBACKS. SO NOW FEEDING A PIGGY BACK A LITTLE BIT ON MR. OR A. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE COUNTS AND IT IS TWICE A YEAR I'M JUST GOING TO YOU SEE THE NUMBERS.
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SO WE HAD 21,000 STUDENTS ON THE ACCOUNT IN OCTOBER.AND THEN COME -- EXCUSE ME. THE FIRST CAT.
>> IT IS YOUR. >> SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OTHER COUNTS COMING UP. IS IT WITHIN THAT 21,000 AND YOU HAVE YOUR ACADEMIC HONORS AND WE HAD -- I DON'T KNOW, 10,000 STUDENTS THAT ARE GETTING ACADEMIC HONORS AND MAKING UP A NUMBER. THAT GOES ON TOP OF, CORRECT, IT
IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ADDITIONAL. >> SO STAY DOES THE STATE TUITION -- STATE TUITION SUPPORT FOR THE SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS IS THE BASE AMOUNT THAT IS THE SAME FOR ALL APPROPRIATE VALUES DETERMINED BY THEIR STUDENT FUNDING AMOUNT AND THEN TIMES THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS YOU HAVE EACH COUNT.
SO OCTOBER AND FEBRUARY, IT DETERMINES FUNDING.
WHEN WE DO DECEMBER 1 FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION, FOR THE COUNT FOR SPECIAL ED, THOSE DOLLARS ARE IN ADDITION TO THE STATE TUITION. SO --
>> SO HER CHILD IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
>> YES. >> SO THERE IS A CHANCE ON THOSE COUNTS A CERTAIN JOE SCHMOE CAN THEN GO -- HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ONE OF THOSE THAT HE FALLS IN OR SHE FALLS INTO.
>> WILL, THE ACADEMIC HONORS ONE IS RETRO TO THE CLASS THAT JUST GRADUATED. OKAY.
THAT WOULD NOT BE THE SAME. >> WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT.
WHEN WE GET THE FUNDING, IT IS -- IT IS HAPPENING.
>> SO SPECIAL EDUCATION AND 30 THEY ARE CURRENT.
>> OKAY. >> SO YOU COULD BE IN TACT AND THEN STILL GIVE LIKE THE IF YOU HAVE A 504 OR RUP.
AND GIVE. BE COUNTED IN BOTH OF THEM.
CORRECT? OKAY, THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRY TO GET TO. OKAY.
>> , B TWICE EXCEPTIONAL ACTING IS WHAT WE CALL IT.
>> THAT MIGHT BE FOR HIGH ABILITY.
BUT -- ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON STUDENT
FUNDING. >> GET TO MORE IN COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS. BUT JUST WITH A.B.A., PROVIDER SERVICES AND ESPECIALLY THINGS GOING ON WITH THE GOVERNOR
POTENTIALLY NOT FINDING IT. >> I THINK THIS JOE SCHMIT NEED
TO COME TO THE NEXT MONTH. >> THAT HIS WORK ONGOING.
IF THIS GETS INTO A VERY DETAILED CONVERSATION WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THIS TO THE COMMITTEE.
BUT I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP IN E-MAILS AND BOARD MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED.
THERE'S CONCERN IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT AND THAT KNOWS HOW THAT IS A FACTOR IN OF THIS. FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, HOW
WE BUILT IN MISSISSIPPI AND ARTWORK THROUGH BOTH, YOU KNOW,, A PART B BRAND THAT COVERS IN A, DOLLARS IN THE STATE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION THAT ARE SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE BUDGETARY.
IIF WE ARE EXPECTED CABRAL THAT THERE'S I WAS THE EDUCATION FUND DOLLARS THAT SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AS WELL. AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT TO ALLOCATE AND IT IS A CATCH 22, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU ARE ALSO ALLOCATED WERE SAYING -- BUSQUETS NEURO.
HOW MANY EXCESS COSTS AND MY GOING TO GET? HOW MANY? WE HAVE HAD SOME SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAD STUDENTS COME TO US THAT ARE IN IMMEDIATE, HIGH ELEMENT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN TO SCHOOL, MAYBE HAVE BEEN IN A.B.A. CENTER AND THERE ARE HERE AND THOSE STUDENTS COME WITH A HIGH DEGREE OF NEED AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FLEX SO THEN WE ARE BUILDING IN ADDITIONAL -- BUT WHEN A STUDENT COMES IN AND NEED A ONE-TO-ONE, MAN, THAT, YOU ARE PAYING IT.
WITHOUT QUESTION. PURPOSES, THAT IS DEFINITELY ON OUR RADAR. WE HAVE TALKED EXCESSIVELY ABOUT A. THE OTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU ABOUT STUDENT FUNDING, ONCE WE GET OUR ACCOUNT IN OCTOBER, I WILL SEND THAT DATA TO DR. KEVIN BURKE HE WILL DO AN UPDATE ESSENTIALLY BASED ON THAT ARE THERE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON AND THAT IS WHEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT IN DECEMBER, WHEN I GET THE TRANSFER REPORT. WE KIND OF ASSESS ALL THOSE PIECES TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAUSED US MAYBE TO STRAIGHT FROM WORK, THE STUDY, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE.
I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT IS ONLY ONE PERSON WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TOTAL NUMBER BUT IT IS STILL NOT HOW I WOULD RATHER BE FLAT THEN BE DOWN.
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THE NUMBERS OVER TIME, I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN POINTED OUTTHAT IT HAS GONE DOWN. >> YES, IT HAS. AND I THINK THE CITY IS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION. I WILL BRAG THAT THEY ARE IN THIRD YEAR OF A DECREASED PROJECTED BUT WE WILL BE IN THE SIXTH. JUST SAYING. BUT WE ARE A BIG ENTITY. THE IMPACT LOOKS DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE ARE LARGER. I THINK THAT THE OVERALL TAX RATE IS LOWER THAN HOURS. AND SO I THINK IT IS SOMETHING TO TAKE NOTE OF. I THINK AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, I HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF BOARD MEMBERS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PLAN STRATEGICALLY THAT MAKES US LESS RELIANT ON REFERENDUM REVENUE. HOPEFULY, WE HAVE THAT CHOICE BECAUSE WE MAY NOT. BUT HOPEFULLY WE DO.
I THINK THAT THIS PUTS US IN THAT DIRECTION OVERALL OF REDUCING THE RATE BECAUSE THE REFERENDUM IS THE COMPONENT OF THAT SO YES, THE OVERALL MESSAGE IS YEAR SIX OF REDUCING THE OVERALL TAX RATE FOR THE SCHOOL CORPORATION AND THE
TAXPAYERS. >> ANY QUESTIONS THERE?
>> REMEMBER, THE REFERENDUM RATE LAST YEAR WAS 2275. THIS YEAR OR FOR NEXT YEAR, WE ARE ADVERTISING .1995. YOU WILL SEE THAT RIGHT ABOVE THE BOX FOR WHERE THE SERVICE RATE IS. THAT REDUCTION. AND THAT IS A HUGE COMPONENT OF THE REDUCED AMOUNT WHICH IS WHAT THE BOARD APPROVED WHEN THEY MOVED
FORWARD WITH THE REFERENDUM. >> DID THAT COVER IT?
>> 'S THERE IS SO BORED THAT HER EYES ARE WATERING. I DON'T KNOW HOW I SHOULD FEEL ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW.
>> SHE WAS GLAD HER TAXES WERE GOING TO GO DOWN.
>> TEARS OF JOY. >> ALL RIGHT. 25 AND 26.
LOOKING AT THE CERTIFIED 6.11 AND THE 6.29% . CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THAT MEANS AT 4.5, AND 4.5 FOR THE JUDGE ACTED?
>> 45, THEY ARE THE PROJECTED AMOUNTS FOR THE GROWTH. WE ACTUALLY -- IN HAMILTON COUNTY, FISHERS OVERALL GREW OF THE OVERALL TAXING UNITS IN TERMS OF THE AV AT 6%. AND IT SEEMS LIKE, ACCORDING TO THE CONVERSATION WE HAD WITH MR. REUTER, THAT THAT WAS SORT OF IN DELAWARE. BUT THEY FELT LIKE THERE WERE SOME APPEALS OUT THERE. NOT APPEALS BUT TRENDING DATA THAT THEY BELIEVE WILL COME IN. ONE OF THE THINGS MIKE SHARED WITH ME -- I COME FROM A PLACE WHERE THE AV DID GET ADJUSTED WHEN THEY DID THE CERTIFICATION. APPARENTLY WE
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MOVED SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY ARE ON TOP OF THE APPEALS. SO THEY REALLY DON'T. WHEN THEY GIVE US, THIS IS YOUR INCREASE IN YOUR CERTIFIED AV, THEY DON'T NORMALLY CHANGE IT MUCH IF AT ALL FOR THE BUDGET. WHERE I'M FROM, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.LESSON LEARNED HERE. KUDOS TO THE HAMILTON COUNTY GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT PROCESS GETS DONE. THERE IS AN ADDITION IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL HOMESTEAD. IF YOU REMEMBER. AND OUT WILL DECREASE AND WHAT WILL BE 25 AND DECREASE AGAIN IN 26 AND THAT NUMBER I BELIEVE IS ABOUT 2.5%. THAT CAME OFF THE TOP OF THE ASSESSED VALUE TO BEGIN WITH. IF THAT HAD NOT COME OFF, THE NUMBER WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER. SO THE 4.5 IS BASED ON -- IT IS CONSERVATIVE. I WILL TELL YOU THAT. BUT IT FACTORS IN A CONSERVATIVE INCREASE UNDERSTANDING THE AV BUT WE WILL KNOW MORE BEFORE WE ARE SITTING HERE NEXT YEAR. WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH A REFERENDUM. THE BOARD, I THINK HAS BEEN CLEAR WITH THE INTENT ABOUT BEING MINDFUL OF THE REFERENDUM AND THAT WE WANT THE RATE TO GO DOWN. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO, YES, UNDERSTAND THAT NEVER INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF THE LEVY WOULD BE LIKE, WE ARE NEVER INCREASING SALARY WHICH IS NOT THE CASE. HOWEVER, WE CAN TIE IT BACK SPECIFICALLY TO THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER IN THERE. WE HAVE IT CONSERVATIVE. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THOUGH IS, ADHERE TO WHAT WE AGREED TO WITHIN BUDGET AND FINANCE. IF WE THINK WE ONLY WANT TO GROW THAT LEVY BY 2% AND WE WILL DRIVE THE RATE TO 17 CENTS, I THINK THOSE DISCUSSIONS WILL HAPPEN A LITTLE MORE ORGANICALLY AND BUDGET AND FINANCE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE YEAR. AND SO THAT IS, I THINK IN LINE WITH THE INTENTION THAT WE BECOME LESS RELIANT ON THE REFERENDUM , IF I UNDERSTOOD PRESIDENT LANGE AND MR. ORR FROM THOSE DISCUSSIONS. SO YES, IT IS CONSERVATIVE BUT THAT DOES NOT DRIVE. EVERYTHING IN FIVE AND
SIX ARE ESTIMATED. >> FOR CLARIFICATION ON 2023, I KNOW IT IS EASY TO GET BY THAT BUT WE DID HAVE THE DRASTIC GROWTH THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE AWARE OF COME FEBRUARY OF 2024.
HOW THINGS WILL CHANGE WITH VALUES AND TAX RATES FOR NEXT
YEAR. >> SO WHY DON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THE 16.94% AND THE 16.47%. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS EXTREMELY HIGHER THAN THE OTHER.
>> YOU ARE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. ARE YOU ON THE ASSESSED VALUES?
>> SORRY. I DIDN'T FLIP. >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THE ASSESSED VALUES WENT UP IN THE CURRENT BUDGET YEAR. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT INFORMATION YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
>> JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. >> IT SAYS VALUE WENT UP AT THE OVERALL TAX RATE WENT DOWN BY ABOUT 5%. AND SO YES, THE AV GREW. REFERENDUM IS A CONTROLLED FUND SO IT GENERATED MORE REVENUE. REVENUE THAT WE ARE REDUCING BY $2 MILLION GOING INTO THE BUDGET YEAR 2024. I WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT AS A CALCULATION TO SEE HOW IT EQUATES OUT, IF IT ALLIANCE SOMEWHERE WITHIN THAT 16, TO WHAT THE REAL INCREASE WOULD BE IF WE AVERAGE DID OVER THOSE TWO YEARS.
>> AGAIN, I'M JUST TRYING TO BE IN THE POSITIVE THING AND BE TRANSPARENT, EXPLAINING TO YOU THAT WE AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE DONE OUR PART TO REDUCE RATES AND MAKE THINGS PRESENTABLE AND RESPECTFUL FOR THE TAXPAYERS GOING FORWARD.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER WHAT THE ASSESSED VALUES WERE.
THEY WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY IN 2023 .
>> ANY QUESTIONS ON ASSESSED VALUES? EVERYONE I'M ASSUMING IS FAMILIAR WITH THE INCREMENT FINANCING AND REFERENDUM INCREASING, INCLUDING THE TIF WHICH THE OPERATIONS --
>> OKAY. THE NEXT PAGE IS THE AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE FOR ALL OF OUR DEBT. WE PROJECT OUT THAT IT GOES OUT BEYOND 2029 BUT IT WASN'T WITHIN THE PRINT CUBE. YOU CAN SEE THE BOXES.
CHUCK, CAN YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT? I'M SORRY. I KNOW YOU ARE TIRED OF ME SAYING THAT. THE PLACES WHERE YOU SEE THE SHADOWBOX ARE ABOUT WHEN ITEMS ARE RETIRED OUT. WE SUBMIT A DEBT REPORT TO THE STATE OF INDIANA EVERY YEAR AND FEBRUARY THAT IS THEN ON THE GATEWAY. ANYONE COULD PULL THAT UP AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT. SO THESE ARE ALL THE OUTSTANDING DEBT ISSUANCES. AND THEN WITH THOSE PAYMENTS ARE, THIS THEN DRIVES THE TAX RATE OR THE LEVY. AND THE DEBT SERVICE. THIS IS ALSO
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WHAT WE USE TO MANAGE OVERLAPPING DEBT. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT TO DETERMINE PART THIS YEAR, WE ARE RETIRING X AND Y AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN . FOR US, IT IS TO SEE THE PICTURE OF WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE GOING THROUGH THE LINE OF WHEN THINGS RETIRE AND THEN PLANNING CAPITAL PROJECTS AROUND THAT. SO LOOKING AT FISHER'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL MALL -- SCHOOL, REMEMBER ON THE ASSUMPTIONS PAGE, THERE WAS AN AMOUNT BILLED AND ANNUALLY FOR THAT. WE WILL FINALIZE THAT OUT IN JANUARY WHEN WE SELL BONDS FOR THAT PURPOSE. AND THEN WE WILL ADJUST IT. IT IS A BALANCE. THE GOAL IS TO ISSUE DEBT AND KEEP THE TAX RATE LEVEL. WE DON'T WANT TO GO UP.WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO DOWN. WE HAVE MAINTAINED THAT BEFORE.
THAT IS WILL HE WAS GIVING US THE ABILITY TO INVEST IN OUR BUILDINGS. WE WERE NOT ALWAYS ABLE TO ISSUE THAT MUCH DEBT DURING THE TIME WE GREW. WE WERE PUTTING UP SO MANY BUILDINGS. AND OTHER BUILDINGS ARE COMING DUE BUT ARE GETTING PAID OFF. THE DOLLARS, I THINK IF WE COULD GENERATE TWICE WHAT WE DO, I'M SURE MR. WRAP COULD FIND A WAY TO ADD TO THOSE. WE HAVE BUILDINGS WAITING OVER 30 YEARS TO YOUR RENOVATED. WE ARE TRYING TO PLAY CATCH-UP BY LEVERAGING THOSE DOLLARS WE CAN BUT KEEPING THE RATE SO IT IS NOT INCREASING THE TAX RATE.
>> THIS CAME TO A REGULAR BOARD MEETING I THINK AND FOR THAT WAS FACILITIES. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG BUT I THINK THAT IS WHERE WE GET THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THINGS LIKE PLAYGROUNDS AND ATHLETIC FIELD ADJUSTMENTS AND ALL THOSE THINGS. AS THINGS GO AWAY, WE KEEP THE RATE THE SAME. BUT WE HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR ALL TYPES OF MAINTENANCE THINGS.
>> THE TOP HALF OF THE SHEET YOU CAN SEE IS NONEXEMPT. THAT IS DEBT NOT EXEMPT FOR PROPERTY TAX. THE BOTTOM SECTION IS THE EXEMPTED DEBT SERVICE FUN. THAT IS THE SERIES. YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE A BUNCH OF THEM ISSUED WHEN WE DID THE CAREER AND COLLEGE ACADEMIES. THAT WILL GET RETIRED OUT AND WE WILL JUST -- THAT WILL JUST GO AWAY. YOU CANNOT EXTEND THE TAX RATE BEYOND THE LIFE OF WHAT WAS AUTHORIZED BY VOTERS.
>> I FIND THIS INTERESTING BUT NOBODY ELSE DOES. THAT'S OKAY.
EXCEPT WHEN I COME WITH A GIANT SPREADSHEET OF THE PROJECTS WE ARE GOING TO DO. THEN EVERYBODY GETS EXCITED.
>> THE NEXT LIGHT IS MY FAVORITE ONE. THE NONFARM PERSONAL INCOME. ONLY IN INDIANA I FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE A THING. SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE HISTORY ON, WHEN THEY TELL US WHAT WE CAN GROW A LEVY BY, IT USE TO AFFECT MORE FUNDS THEN IT DOES NOW. NOW IT IS ESSENTIALLY YOUR OPERATIONS FUN. THEY ARE LOOKING AT -- I THINK IT IS THE SIX YEAR AVERAGE OF THE NONFARM PERSONAL INCOME. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A COLUMN THERE FOR ANNUAL INCREASE PERCENTAGE. AND THEN THE PRIOR SIX YEAR AVERAGE, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE GET NOTICE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCE TO SAY, YOU CAN GROW BY X. WHEN YOUR AV GROWS BY 12% AND YOUR GROWTH CAN ONLY BE BY FOUR, HE WILL SEE AN OVERALL DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE. WHAT FOLKS SOMETIMES DON'T NECESSARILY GRASP IS THAT BECAUSE THERE ARE TAX CAP LAWS, IS REDUCING THE RATE IS NOT NECESSARILY TRANSLATE TO DOLLARS IN THE POCKET OF THE HOMEOWNER. IT WILL GENERATE LESS PROPERTY TAX CAP LOSS, ASSUMING THAT OTHER TAXING UNITS THAT IMPACT US ARE DOING. BECAUSE IT IS BROKEN DOWN BY A PRO RATA SHARE. DO YOU GUYS NEED A BREAK? I FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS TO GO TO BED. I GUESS IT IS 8:00. IT IS PROBABLY ABOUT MY BEDTIME. THIS IS INDIANA TO ME. ONLY INDIANA WOULD YOU SEND OUT THIS LINK. I THINK IT IS THE GREATEST THING EVER. IF YOU NEVER HEARD THE DOCTOR FROM PURDUE GET THE UPDATE ON THE ECONOMICS AND THE DAY, HE IS RETIRED BUT STILL COMES AND DOES THOSE PRESENTATIONS FOR US AND PROBABLY HAS THE KIND OF SENSE OF HUMOR THAT I HAVE. STEPHANIE, ISN'T IT A THRILLER?
>> HE IS ENTERTAINING. >> BUT ONLY PEOPLE LIKE US FIND
IT FUNNY. WHAT DID YOU SAY? >> I DID NOT HEAR WHAT HE
SAID. >> BECAUSE HE WORKS FOR PURDUE -- PURDUE AND PICKED AN ELITE UNIVERSITY. I DIGRESS.
>> IT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT SAYS, THE SKY IS FALLING IN YOUR LIKE THANK YOU. HUSBAND ALWAYS A BUNCH OF ACCOUNTING TYPES LIVING IT UP. HE IS HERE LAUGHING BUT HE ALWAYS TELLS ME, I'M SURE IT'S REALLY FUN WHILE YOU ARE ALL THERE TOGETHER. EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE STATE. DR.
(INDISCERNIBLE) WILL TELL YOU WHEN HE HAD TO GO TO THE BUDGET SESSION THAT HE STILL HAS PTSD FROM THAT.
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>> THE NEXT SLIDE, IT WILL TURN OVER TO MISSES MADISON.
AND IT GOES THROUGH EVERY SINGLE LOCATION AND THE CAPITAL PROJECT PIECE OF IT. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STEPHANIE. SHE WILL GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION ON WHAT WE GENERATE AND HOW WE GENERATE THEM.
>> I WILL NOT READ ALL OF THEM TO YOU BUT WE WILL KIND OF COVER THIS FIRST ONE TO SEE IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE CATEGORIES.
THIS USED TO HAVE TO BE PART OF THE ADVERTISEMENT PROCESS FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND IT NO LONGER DOES. BUT WE STILL KEEP IT UP AS A GOOD RECORD TO GO BACK ON. IT JUST HAS THE VALUE OF THE BUILDING AND THE OCCUPANCY AND THE STUDENT CAPACITY. AND IT HAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ENROLLMENT HISTORY.
SOME INFORMATION ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY HAVE BEEN DONE. AND THEN THIS ONE IS BROKEN DOWN. ON THE OPERATIONS BUDGET, WHERE YOU SEE A LINE FOR RENTAL OF BUILDINGS OR BUILDING ACQUISITION CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT.
THAT IS THE AGGREGATE OF ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS. AND SO THIS KIND OF BREAKS IT DOWN PER LOCATION.
>> AND WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO A THREE YEAR PLAN FOR CAPITAL
PROJECTS. >> THAT IS IN HER TOO, AFTER
THE 23 PAGES OF EVERY BUILDING. >> SORRY. STEPHANIE REMINDED US THAT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN TELL JOKES.
>> I THINK FOR US TOO, THIS IS HELPFUL TO MAINTAIN BECAUSE IT ALSO IS -- IT DEMONSTRATES THAT, WHERE WE ARE DOING AND WHAT WORK AND AS WE BUDGET THINGS OUT ANNUALLY. AND SO THAT WAY IT IS CLEAR THAT EVERYONE IS GETTING THINGS COMPLETED WITHIN THE BUILDING AND WE CAN ACTUALLY SAY, HERE IT IS. THIS ALLOWS US TO KEEP THAT CADENCE AND HAVE THAT CLEAR PICTURE FOR EVERY BUILDING SO THEY UNDERSTAND. I WISH THESE WERE THE ONLY ONES BUT THAT IS WHERE THE BONDS COME IN FOR THE BIGGER PROJECTS.
>> DOES THE SOLAR STUFF COME IN ON ANY OF THESE OR IS THAT
SEPARATE? >> THAT WILL BE PART OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND DISCUSSION. BUT THAT PROJECT ITSELF, IF YOU RECALL, THE BOARD JUST AWARDED AND SAID NO COST TO THE DISTRICT TO DEVELOP POTENTIAL PLANS BEFORE ANYTHING WILL BE AGREED TO. WE WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD TO TALK ABOUT THE PAYOFFS AND ET CETERA. THIS IS ABOUT SORT OF THE MORE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND THINGS THAT THEY DO IN THE BUILDINGS.
>> SO WOULD TRANSPORTATION BE ITS OWN ENTITY? LIKE IT DOESN'T BUDGET INTO ONE SCHOOL MIGHT NEED MORE BUSES THAN ANOTHER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? TRANSPORTATION IS ITS OWN
>> YES. THE BUS GARAGE IS A LOCATION THAT WILL ALSO HAVE A BUDGET. AS FAR AS BUSES PER BUILDING, THAT IS NOT ACCOUNTED
>> AND IN THAT REALLY QUICK, AND THIS MIGHT BE A SIDE. NOT THIS DISCUSSION. BUT THROWING IT OUT THERE. IS THERE A TRANSPORTATION REPORT THAT WE WILL EVER GET THAT SAYS THAT WE HAVE 38 BUSES AND PURPOSE, WE HAVE -- THIS ROUTE HAS FIVE KIDS ON IT. THIS BUS ROUTE HAS 52 KIDS ON IT OR 28 KIDS. SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? DO WE HAVE THAT DATA AND INFORMATION
ANYWHERE? >> THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY MR. MCKINNEY WHO WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
>> SO THE ROUTING SOFTWARE, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT FROM CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD WITH MR. MCKENNEY, THE ROUTING SOFTWARE IS WHAT THEY USE TO BUILD, RIGHT. THE OVERALL ROUTE. AND THAT IS BASED ON HOW MANY STUDENTS CAN BE ON THE BUS CAPACITY -WISE. THE CHALLENGE IS THAT FOLKS DON'T LET US KNOW NECESSARILY THAT THEIR KIDS AREN'T GOING TO RIDE THE BUS.
SO ZACH AND HIS ROUTERS HAVE TO ASSUME ALL OF THEM ARE AND THEN A COUPLE WEEKS AND, START TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRACKING THE DRIVER -- THE TRACKER IS DRIVING WHO IS RIDING AND WHO IS IN. THE BUILDING IS TRACKING AND THEY START TO CARRY OVER TO 80%. THAT IS A BAD EXAMPLE. IT IS SORT OF A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE SCIENCE BECAUSE YOU RUN THE RISK. IF YOU DO EVERYTHING AT 100%, YOU RUN THE RISK YOU WE RUNNING BUSES HALF EMPTY WHICH IS WHAT NOBODY WANTS TO DO. SO THAT IS WHERE THE BUILDING, AS WELL AS THE DRIVER, IS TRACKING WHO IS RIDING AND THEN THEY MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. BUT IT IS A BALANCE BECAUSE AT ANY TIME, SOMETIMES THE STUDENTS CAN COME BACK AND NOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY. IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ROUTE EFFICIENCY, THEY ARE RUNNING THEM. THEY ARE SCHEDULING IT LIKE 120% OF CAPACITY, KNOWING THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO MEET THAT. WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE LESS, I THINK MR. MCKENNEY HAS ASKED US TO EXAMINE FOR A FUTURE SCHOOL
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YEAR POTENTIALLY LIKE CAN WE ASK PARENTS IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TRANSPORT THEIR STUDENT? THE PROBLEM WE HAD IS EITHER THEY DON'T ANSWER OR THEY TELL US KNOW AND THEY PUTTHEM ON THE BUS. >> I THINK IT IS A SYSTEM THAT
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT. >> I'M JUST THINKING OF COST EFFICIENCY OF RUNNING A FULL BUS FOR THE ROUTES AND WHERE WE COULD HAVE COMBINED TWO ROUTES, FOR ONE. NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO GET RID OF BUS DRIVERS BECAUSE I MOST DEFINITELY AM NOT. BUT IF ONE ROUTE IS NOT, WE COULD MOVE THAT PERSON TO ANOTHER ROUTE OR SITUATION. THAT IS ALL.
>> I THINK ZACK AND PATTY ARE DOING THAT CONSTANTLY. FOR THEM, THE MORE EFFICIENT THEY ARE, THE LESS NUMBER OF DRIVERS THEY NEED AND THERE ARE NEVER ENOUGH DRIVERS.
>> IT IS NOT AN ISSUE OF REDUCING.
>> IT'S NOT ABOUT -- AND AGAIN, PLEASE LET ME CLARIFY.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT REDUCING BUS DRIVERS.
>> TALKING ABOUT THE ROUTES. AND ARE WE EFFICIENTLY FILLING
UP THE BUSES? THAT IS ALL. >> I THINK IT IS A GREAT POINT THOUGH, THE EFFICIENCY OF IT. BECAUSE THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT I THINK PEOPLE MAY NOT UNDERSTAND AND FRANKLY I DIDN'T BEFORE WE GOT SO DEEP INTO THIS, THAT AS YOU REDUCE STUDENTS, THERE WERE A LOT OF COSTS AND THINGS THAT DON'T EQUALLY REDUCE. YOU STILL HAVE TO RUN A BUS EVEN IF THERE IS ONE KID TO PICKUP. SO IF YOU LOSE 20 KIDS ON THE BUS, YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME EXPENSE OF A BUS AND A BUS DRIVER AND GAS.
SO NOT EVERYTHING CORRESPONDS PERFECTLY TO THE STUDENT COUNT.
AND WE REALIZE THAT. DO WE HAVE -- IS THERE ANY WALKING?
DO WE DO ANY WALKING AT ALL? >> NO. I THINK AT ONE POINT, THAT WAS EXAMINED. MR. MCKENNEY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT. THE PROBLEM IS, ACROSS THE DISTRICT, THE STANDARDS ARE DIFFERENT. SOME PLACES HAVE SIDEWALKS AND SOME PLACES DON'T. IT IS SOMETHING ON OUR LIST AND WE RAN SOME PRELIMINARY DATA AS PART OF THE BUDGET REDUCTION DISCUSSION OVERALL. BUT THAT IS WHERE IT GETS TO BE DIFFICULT. IT IS
ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY. >> AND I WOULD THINK SAFETY
AND ALL OF THAT. >> ALL THOSE THINGS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANT FIRST-GRADERS WALKING AROUND AROUND ABOUT. I THINK FOR THEM, BECAUSE OF THE SIZE, IT IS EASIER TO BE 100%.
WHAT I WOULD ALSO SAY ABOUT MR. MCKENNEY IS THAT IT WOULD BE ONE THING IF THEY HAD MORE DRIVERS THAN ROUTES AND HE WANTED TO KEEP THEM EMPLOYED. EVERY EFFICIENCY THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH IS BETTER FOR HIM BECAUSE IF NOT, HE IS OUT DRIVING. THE WHOLE FRONT OFFICE IS OUT DRIVING. THOSE ARE OVERTIME DOLLARS THAT I CAN'T REALLOCATE TO EVERYDAY WAGE TO IMPROVE THE STANDARD OF LIVING OR THE WAGES SO WE ARE ABLE TO RECRUIT MORE DRIVERS. I FEEL LIKE, THEY ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING A DISCUSSION. I THINK THE DRIVERS ARE AN ACTIVE PART OF IT SAYING, PATTY, THE WHOLE STREET COME NONE OF THE KIDS ARE ON THE BUS. SO THEY WILL REROUTE IT TO
MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT. >> BUT THE NEXT DAY THEY COULD
RIDE THE BUS. >> AND THEY CALL AND CHECK BUT I THINK FOR US, THE BIG SAVINGS CAME FROM GOING FROM A TWO TEAR
PLAN TO A THREE-TIER PLAN. >> AND IF YOU DECIDE TO HAVE WALK ZONES, THERE ARE PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT IS REQUIRED TO CROSS THE STREET. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO EMPLOY CROSSING GUARDS. SO THEN YOU ARE LIKE, OKAY, VERSUS THE BUS
DRIVER AND THAT TYPE OF THING. >> IN THAT SCENARIO, IF WE ARE IN LIMITING CROSSWALKS, DO WE SHARE COST WITH THE CITY OR DO WE ASSUME ALL THAT? HAD IS THAT NORMALLY WORK?
>> TECHNICALLY BY LAW, WE CANNOT EMPLOY CROSSING GUARDS.
THE CITY HAS TO EMPLOY THEM. MOST PLACES WILL DO A 50/50.
SOME PLACES WANT 100% REIMBURSEMENT. EITHER WAY, WE WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR THE COST TO REIMBURSE THE CITY.
>> THANK YOU. >> THIS MIGHT BE RIDICULOUS BUT I HAVE MY TWO BOYS. THEY DON'T RIDE THE BUS ANYMORE BUT I REMEMBER THEM SAYING THAT THERE WERE LIKE 15 KIDS ON THE BUS. WHAT ABOUT GETTING SMALLER BUSES?
>> I WOULD DEFER TO MR. MCKENNEY. I THINK A TRANSPORTATION UPDATE FOR FUTURE BOARD MEETING. I'M SURE HE WILL REALLY APPRECIATE ME VOLUNTEERING HIM FOR THIS. I THINK THAT IT IS ABOUT, NUMBER ONE, WHAT THEY PRODUCE IN TERMS OF WHAT MANUFACTURING. AND SO IS THE ADDITIONAL COST -- I THINK THE BUS WITH SMALLER CAPACITY ISN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO BE PRO RATA LESS IN COST OVERALL. AND FOR THEM, THEY ARE BASING THE BUS ROUTE ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES TO TRAVEL. THEY HAVE GOALS ABOUT HOW LONG STUDENTS WANT TO BE ON THE BUS EACH WAY. THEY MIGHT ALSO HAVE -- WE HAVE BUS ATTENDANTS ON ALL BUSES TO TRANSPORT STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS. SO THERE MIGHT BE STUDENTS WERE PART OF THE IP IS A NEEDED TO BE TRANSPORTED HOME FIRST OFF THE BUS. WE DO HAVE SOME BUT USUALLY THEY ARE WHEELCHAIR BUSES OR --
>> WE HAVE TYPE A BUSES AND WE HAVE WHITE AND YELLOW. THERE IS ACTUALLY A VERY LARGE DIFFERENCE AS WE EXPLAINED
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MULTIPLE TIMES. I BELIEVE IF YOU DRIVE A YELLOW BUS, YOU CAN TRANSPORT STUDENTS AND NOT HAVE TO HAVE A CDL .>> YELLOW HAS TO. WHITE DOES NOT.
>> AND I HAVE SEEN A SHIFT IN THE FLEET WHERE IF WE DO GET RID OF ONE OF THE LARGER BUSES THAT HE HAS, I THINK THIS YEAR -- AND I THINK HE DID REPLACE THAT WITH TWO OF THE SMALLER YELLOW BUSES. SO I THINK THERE IS THAT LINE OF THINKING AND
TRANSPORTATION AS WELL. >> THEY ARE MAKING THEM ALL TOO. THERE USED TO BE THE FLAT NOSE. THE ONE THAT HAD THE FRONT END. OR A DIFFERENT CAPACITY.
>> NOW, THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. THEY DON'T MAKE THOSE THAT WAY ANYMORE. I THINK EVEN IN THE INDUSTRY, THEY ARE NOT MAKING THEM IN THE SAME CAPACITY. YOU COULD MAKE A BUS TO HOLD 200 KIDS BUT NOBODY WILL WANT TO BE ON THE BUS FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS BUT I'M SURE YOU WOULD WANT TO RIDE THE BUS FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF.
>> GOING THROUGH ALL THESE VARIOUS SHEETS, THERE ARE VASTLY DIFFERENT COSTS AND SCHOOLS HAVE DIFFERENT CAPACITIES AND DIFFERENT AGES AND ALL THAT. TO BE LOOK AT IT
-- >> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THESE
SHEETS OR DID YOU FLIP AHEAD? >> I'M ON THESE SHEETS.
>> HE STILL INTERESTED IN THE CAPITAL PROJECT.
>> YES. I'M JUST CURIOUS. DID WE PUT THAT OUT INTO ANY KIND OF AVERAGE, AS FAR AS IT COSTS THIS MUCH TO RUN A SCHOOL PER STUDENT OR PER SQUARE FOOTAGE? AND LOOK AT ANOMALIES? LIKE WE JUST BUILT DEER CREEK. IS IT RUNNING MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN
FISHER'S ELEMENTARY? >> AS FAR AS ALL THE REPAIR
AND MAINTENANCE. >> WE TRY TO KEEP THE ROUTINE ITEMS THE SAME ACROSS THE ELEMENTARIES AND ACROSS THE JUNIOR HIGHS IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS. THERE WILL BE A LITTLE VARIANCE EVERY YEAR DEPENDING LIKE ON THE CUMBERLAND ROAD. 10,000 MORE IN THE BUILDING ACQUISITION CONSTRUCTION IMPROVEMENT. THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF PLAYGROUND IMPROVEMENT AND IT WILL GO BACK TO THE 4350. LIKE EQUIPMENT IS DIFFERENT. CUSTODIAL EQUIPMENT NEEDS. WE WILL BUILD AND IF THEY NEED AN ART -- A LARGER PIECE. AND SO YES, IT IS BASED BASICALLY ON THEIR SIZE.
>> SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ENROLLMENT?
>> YES. >> OKAY. THEY LOOK GENERALLY -- AND TO SIT AND DO THIS BY HAND WOULD BE RIDICULOUS.
>> I HAVE ANOTHER EXCEL SPREADSHEET WITH MULTIPLE TABS.
>> SO YOU CAN SEE IF AN ANOMALY POPS OUT. LET'S SAY I WOULD IS MAKE UP A NUMBER AND IT COSTS $11,000 PER KID TO RUN A SCHOOL. IF ONE IS RUNNING IT 20,000 PER KID AND ANOTHER AT 4000, YOU WOULD NOTICE THOSE. THERE ARE REASONS AND PROBABLY THINGS LIKE A CHILLER BROKE OR SOME MAJOR ISSUE HAPPENED.
>> DEER CREEK, YOU WILL SEE A SMALLER MAINTENANCE COST BECAUSE WE WILL BE DON'T NEED TO PUT AS MUCH MAINTENANCE IN
THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW. >> WHERE WE ALSO SEE EFFICIENCY IN THE NEWER BUILDINGS WILL BE IN THE GAS AND ELECTRICITY.
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WHEN YOU START IMPROVING AND UPDATING THE EQUIPMENT. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AS PART OF THE REDUCING ENERGY COSTS. THE NONSTRATEGIC COST. THAT IS WHERE MR. RICE WANTS A 32-YEAR-OLD BOILER REPLACED BECAUSE OF THE ONE TODAY TO BE WAY MORE EFFICIENT AND WILL SAVE US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. SO THOSE BUILDINGS ARE MORE EFFICIENT GENERALLY BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT IS NEWER .
>> AREN'T YOU GOING THROUGH ALL 23?
>> NO. >> SO WE HAVE TO FLIP 23
PAGES. >> WHEN YOU CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT, GO AHEAD AND PUT YOUR GLASSES ON AND -- WILL BE LOOKING FOR A SHEET THAT WILL LOOK KIND OF LIKE THIS .
>> THIS IS THE NEW ADVERTISEMENT REQUIREMENT. WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE ANY PROJECTS AND ACQUISITION -- ASSET ACQUISITIONS OVER $10,000 OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS. NOW THIS IS JUST WHAT COMES OUT OF OPERATIONS. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BOND IMPROVEMENTS. IN 2024, WE SUBMITTED THE THREE YEAR PLAN BUT REALLY, 2024 IS A NUMBER THAT WILL GO FOR APPROVAL. THIS WILL BE -- WE CAN STILL ADJUST 25-26.
>> ARE WE ON PAGE 59? >> ON THE PDF. 56 OF 71.
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>> THESE ARE ROUTINE PROJECTS WE WORK THROUGH EVERY YEAR. I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PLAYGROUND REPAIR AND PAINTING CUMBERLAND ROAD. THAT IS LISTED AT 10,000 OR MORE. AS FAR AS THE ASSETS, YOU WILL SEE A FEW OF THE CUSTODIAL
EQUIPMENT PIECES . >> STEPHANIE, THESE ARE ONLY THINGS THAT WILL COME OUT OF OPERATIONS, CORRECT?
>> YES. >> YES. THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE
ANYTHING OUT OF ON. >> FOR PAINTING AND WALLCOVERING FOR VARIOUS AREAS, WHICH WE CONSIDER WALLCOVERINGS
TO CLARIFY? >> SOME OF THEM HAVE WALLPAPER.
>> SOME OF THEM HAVE TILE. SOME HAVE THAT PROTECTED AREA, THAT MATERIAL ALMOST LIKE LAMINATE PLASTIC TO PROTECT CORNERS AND THINGS. SO IT CAN BE ANYTHING. THAT IS ALL FACILITATED.
>> WE VISIT THE BUILDINGS EVERY FEBRUARY TO DISCUSS THEIR NEEDS AND WE WILL SIT DOWN AT FISHER'S AND SAY, HERE'S YOUR ALLOCATION AND THEY WILL TELL US WHERE THE GREATEST NEED IS ON WALK-THROUGH. SO THE BUILDINGS HAVE CONTROL OVER
THAT. THANK YOU. >> THERE ARE DUPLICATES FROM
PORTABLE? >> YES. THERE SHOULD BE ONE
FOR EVERY YEAR. >> IT IS A THREE YEAR. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ESTIMATED END DATE, YOU WILL SEE 24- 25.
>> IT IS ITEM 29 AND 25. FIRST GLANCE, THEY APPEAR TO BE
THE SAME DATES. >> ITEM 25 AND?
>> 20. >> DOESN'T THAT ACCOUNT FOR
BOTH SETS OF PORTABLES? >> NO. IT SHOULD BE 2026 FOR THE MOVE AND LEASE PORTABLES EACH YEAR. THAT NEEDS TO BE
>> MAKING SURE. >> SO JUST ONE LINE ITEM AND
>> THERE WERE TWO BUILT IN 2025 BUT NONE IN 2026. SUCH AS TO COPY AND PASTE. OKAY. AGAIN, I SEE THAT AGAIN FOR ALLOWANCE FOR FIELD MAINTENANCE, FISHER'S HIGH SCHOOL IS LINE 15. LINE 20 ATE IT SAYS IT AGAIN. IS IT BECAUSE THE YEAR CHANGED OR IT IS SOMETHING THEY DID EVERY
YEAR? >> BECAUSE IT IS A THREE YEAR
>> IT WASN'T REQUIRED, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD NECESSARILY DO IT IN THIS MANNER BECAUSE IT WOULD BE EASIER IF IT WAS ON THREE DIFFERENT PAGES. BUT THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE .
>> JEFF, I THINK THREE MORE PAGES FROM HERE WILL GET YOU TO
THE BUS REPLACEMENT PLAN . >> THAT IS THE ASSETS. IT IS PART OF THE CAPITAL PROJECT PLAN .
>> BACK ONE, I THINK. ADVANCED -- SCRUBBER VACUUM
SCRUBBER. ARE THOSE FOR POOLS? >> YOU HAVE TO SHARE WITH THE
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WHOLE -- >> WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT OUR
CUSTODIAL EQUIPMENT HERE. >> IT IS THE FLOOR SCRUBBER.
>> IT ALLOWS THEM TO GET MORE DONE.
>> SHE KIND OF FILTERS THROUGH TO ME THE NEEDS.
>> IT COULD BE A FUNDRAISER. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD PAY TO DRIVE ONE AROUND AND VOLUNTEER CLEAR BUILDINGS.
>> TO SPEAK LET THE RESTROOM CLEANING MACHINES ARE UNDER THE
TENTS. >> I HAVE ANOTHER ONE. WHERE DO WE PLACE OR WHERE ARE WE AT WITH LAWN SERVICES THAT WE HAVE ACROSS THE BOARD? WHERE DOES THIS LIE IN ALL OF THIS?
>> IT IS WITHIN SERVICES IN THE OPERATIONS FUND. THE GROUNDS PIECE OF THAT IS COVERED BY THE CITY OF FISHER'S THROUGH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. IT IS ESSENTIALLY A SERVICES LINE WITHIN MAINTENANCE OF GROUNDS WITHIN THE BUDGET.
>> GREAT, THANKS. >> JUST A LITTLE SIDE NOTE.
WITH THAT, I AM ASSUMING THE QUESTION OR COMMENT WILL GO TO DR. KEGLEY. HOW DO WE GET A REPORT ON HOW THAT IS GOING? I HAVE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT PTO PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF EXTRA WORK ON THE GROUNDS AND BEAUTIFYING FLOWERS AND MAKING SURE TRASH IS TAKEN OUT AT CERTAIN SCHOOLS. SO WITH THAT GOING FORWARD, WITH A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, IS THERE A WAY TO GET A REPORT ON HOW IT IS WORKING
IN A SUCCESSFUL MANNER? >> I'M SURE MR. RAPP WOULD BE ABLE TO UPDATE US ON THAT. TYPICALLY, FACILITIES -- THE FACILITIES DIRECTOR WORKS IN TANDEM WITH THE CITY ON THOSE
PIECES. >> MAYBE WE CAN DISCUSS THAT AT A LATER DATE ABOUT HAVING A ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS FOR
AN UPDATE. >> THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE WITH THE CITY -- THERE IS A TERM FOR WHICH I'M BLANKING ON. THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE WEEDING FLOWERBEDS. AND SO THE CHALLENGE BECOMES THERE. AND YOU WOULD FIND THIS TO BE TRUE IN ANY CORPORATION. IF IT WERE UP TO ANYBODY ON THE GROUNDS, THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW FLOWERS TO BE PUT IN. IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED. THEY WOULD WANTED BUILDING TO STREET GRASS AND THAT'S IT. THERE IS NO LANDSCAPING OR KNOW ANYTHING. MR. JOHNSON WOULD SAY NO BUSHES BECAUSE THEY ARE A RISK FOR A SCHOOL SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. WE PUT THEM IN AND WE SAY, 20 YEARS AGO, THE PTO WOULD MAINTAIN A. 20 YEARS LATER, AFTER HE KEPT EXPANDING, NOW WE HAVE PLANTERS. THAT WOULD REQUIRE -- WE HAVE NO GROUND STAFF. THAT WOULD REQUIRE EITHER TO HIRE STAFF FOR THE GROUNDS OR CONTRACT WITH LANDSCAPING COMPANIES WHICH I KNOW IS REALLY EXPENSIVE. THINGS WE TALK ABOUT. MATT, I KNOW MY FIRST YEAR WHEN I WENT TO OPENING DAY AND I WAS AT FALL CREEK INTERMEDIATE AND I ABOUT FELL OVER WHEN I SAW THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING ON THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL AND I SAID TO MATT, DON'T WE MULCH? AND HE SAID, WE CUT IT OUT OF THE BULLET BUDGET WHEN WE DO THE 5 MILLION IT CUTS. IN THE FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL, THAT IS LASTING YOU WANT. THE FIRST DAY THERE ARE WEEDS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MULCH.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE IN DISCUSSION ON. THEY ARE BETTING SOME PRICING ABOUT HOW COSTS PROHIBITIVE IT MIGHT BE TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL LAYER OF SUPPORT THAT IS MORE LANDSCAPING BASED AS OPPOSED TO GRASS. BECAUSE THE CITY -- THAT IS NOT WHAT
THE AGREEMENT IS FOR. >> I AM ASSUMING -- WE HAVE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND CLUBS WITHIN OUR SCHOOL THE ONE, FFA AND OTHERS THAT, THERE MIGHT BE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THESE CLUBS AND VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS AND MAYBE THEY GET CREDITS OR POINTS FOR -- I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY OR VOLUNTEER HOURS FOR GRADUATION BUT OFF-TRACK A LITTLE BIT. JUST SAYING, I'M SURE THERE IS OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE INVOLVED TO HELP WITH OFFSETTING ANY ADDITIONAL COST AS WELL. WHAT THAT IS -- WHETHER WE DISCUSS IT IN A COMMITTEE TO SEE WHERE WE CAN TAP INTO AND INVOLVING DR. KEGLEY AND INVOLVING THE STUDENTS, WE CAN DO THAT AT A LATER DATE. JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE THAT I THINK IT IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS ATTENTION.
>> WE ARE DEFINITELY AWARE OF IT. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS SOMETHING WE PUT TOGETHER. I KNOW SOME OF THE REFERENDUM DISCUSSIONS WITH PTO, THAT HAS BEEN A POINT OF DISCUSSION. AND SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS, WE WERE AT A POINT OUT OF DISTRICT WERE EVERY BUILDING COULD MANAGE IT ON THEIR OWN. BUT I THINK, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS HAPPENING IN A
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BUILDING, WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE THE DISCUSSION MATT AND I ARE HAVING IS, DO WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK HERE SO WE CAN MANAGE IT? AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? THAT IS SORT OF THE DISCUSSION. AND HIS MORNING TO ME IS, I CAN'T DO IT WITH MY EXISTING STAFF. IF ANYTHING, WE NEED A PLAN THAT HAS AN ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE SO WE UNDERSTAND HOW WILL BE MANAGED SO THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN AND SO WE DON'T HAVE FOLKS UPSET. BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT.>> THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. THE BUS REPLACEMENT PLAN. JUST KIDDING.
>> IT IS PLANNED OUT FOR FIVE YEARS RATHER THAN THREE. IT USED TO BE 12. SO AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT. BUSES TEND TO BE REPLACED EVERY 12 YEARS. LOOKING AT THIS PLAN, YOU WILL SEE THAT , IT LOOKS LIKE LINE NUMBER TWO THROUGH EIGHT, THESE ARE LEASED BUSES. SO THE REASON THE AMOUNT IS SO SMALL IS BECAUSE IT IS THE FINAL LEASE PAYMENT. WE ARE PURCHASING BUSES OUT OF BONDS THIS YEAR. SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOTAL, DON'T WORRY. THAT IS NOT ALL COMING OUT OF OPERATIONS. WE WILL NEVER GET CAUGHT UP IF WE LEASED BUSES FOR THREE YEARS AND TRY TO KEEP WITHIN THAT 2.3 MILLION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO STICK WITH. WE WILL NEVER GET BUSES REPLACED LIKE THAT. AND IT IS COSTING US MORE IN MAINTENANCE COST AT THIS POINT.
SO WE ARE PURCHASING. ZACH WAS VERY HAPPY. YOU GOT TO GO
SHOPPING FOR BUSES. >> WITH THE STOP ARM CAMERAS
AND ALL THE THINGS . >> SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PAGES OF THIS. BUT WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, IT SHOWS 12.8 AND BUSES. AND JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, I BELIEVE ONLY 1.7 IS CONTINUING THE LEASE PAYMENTS AND THE REST WILL BE OUT OF
BONDS. >> REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT 2023GO BOND. WE REALLOCATED . THIS CALENDAR YEAR, WE STARTED SITTING DOWN MONTHLY WITH TRANSPORTATION FORMALLY WITH MR. MCKENNEY AND ONE OF HIS ASSISTANT DIRECTORS, AND THAT WAS ONE WHERE I HAD NO IDEA THAT A THIRD OF THE FLEET WAS OVER 12 YEARS. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT A BUS ISN'T SAFE AFTER 12 YEARS BUT YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE TWO YEAR INSPECTIONS INSTEAD OF ONE. THE FACT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A FACILITY THAT HOUSES THE BUSES INSIDE AND WE DON'T LIVE IN A PLACE THAT IS ALWAYS WARM.
SO YOU CAN HAVE RUST ON A BUS FOR AN INSPECTION OR ALL THESE FACTORS. SO PATTY WAITES CAME UP WITH THAT FIGURE PER BUS ABOUT WHAT IT COSTS US TO BE BEYOND 12 YEARS. WHEN YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY A HUNDRED, WE SAID OKAY, WE NEED TO ALLOCATE AND HAVE A PLAN TO REDUCE THIS. THE HOPE THERE -- NOT HOPE BUT GOAL, TO GET IT REPLACED AND THEY WILL NEED LESS DOLLARS IN THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE LINE. THAT WAY WE CAN UTILIZE THE FUNDS TO GET THE RATE AT A LEVEL WHERE WE CAN BE EVEN MORE COMPETITIVE THEN WE ARE WITHOUT HAVING TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE. IT WILLBE NET ZERO. BUT THEN, LIKE THIS YEAR, PATTY CAME IN AND THEY HAD INCREASED TO THE PRICE OF TIRES AND WE
BUY 300 TIRES A YEAR. >> THE TIRE PRICE WENT UP BY $400 A TIRE OR SOME INSANE AMOUNT. AND THOSE OF THE THINGS WE ARE MANAGING WITHIN THERE. THOSE OF THE NONSTRATEGIC COSTS WE HAVE TO HAVE BUT WE ARE TRYING TO
MITIGATE THEM AS BEST WE CAN. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY FOR ANYONE LOOKING, IT SHOWS A LARGE COST FOR 2024. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECTIONS GOING FORWARD, THE MAINTENANCE IS MUCH LOWER, LOWER THAN WHAT IS HAPPENING IN 2024.
>> THE REPLACEMENT COST, WE TAPER BACK OFF TO THE 2.3 WHICH
IS WHAT WE HAD IN THE PAST. >> WE HAD ELECTRIC BUSES
FACTORED INTO THIS, CORRECT? >> WE HAVE ONE ELECTRIC BUS AND IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR.
>> STEPHANIE HAS PTSD FROM THE ELECTRIC BUS.
>> IS THAT THE ONE AT THE NUMBER ONE POSITION?
>> IT IS BUS 195. >> ZACH AND PATTY MADE IT GREEN
ON THE BUS REPLACEMENT PLAN. >> IT IS BUS NUMBER 195.
>> BEFORE -- IF I RECALL, WE ONLY COULD PURCHASE ONE MORE BEFORE WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD MORE CHARGING STATIONS. AND THE COST OF THE ELECTRIC BUSES IS STILL FAR HIGHER THAN A DIESEL BUS. AND SO WHEN WE PURCHASED IT, IT WAS WITH THE GRANT THAT BASICALLY NEGATES THAT. SO DOES THE SAME PRICE AS DIESEL. WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE THAT THE ELECTRIC BUS, THEY HAVE NOT HAD CHALLENGES WITH IT. WE HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT GOT ONE FROM A DIFFERENT PROVIDER WHO CAN USE IT. WE HAVE BEEN VERY LUCKY THAT HOURS HAS WORKED
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VERY WELL. I THINK WE ARE INTERESTED -- I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND NOT MISSES MADISON, AND ADDITIONAL, ONLY BECAUSE CARBON FOOTPRINT AND THOSE THINGS. BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF, EVEN THOUGH GAS, DIESEL IS A HUGE COST, BUT WHAT IS ELECTRICITY COST? RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE NO GRANTS THEY ARE APPLYING FOR TO OFFSET THE COST PICKS WE WILL NOT SPEND FOUR TIMES AS MUCH OR THREE TIMES AS MUCH. ONLY A GRANT NEGATES THATNOW. >> BEING THAT SOME OF THESE HAVE A ZERO, THESE ARE THE BUSES WE OWN AND DON'T OWE ANYTHING ON THEM. WHAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER?
>> WE HAVE 320 BUSES TOTAL. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE
OWNED. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. SOME MIGHT SAY, PROJECTED TOTAL, 47,000. ANOTHER ONE SAYS A DIFFERENT AMOUNT. WHEN YOU SEE ZERO FOR EXAMPLE, LINE NUMBER NINE, BUS NUMBER 46 SAYS OWNED, $0. SO I WAS TRYING TO GET A CLARIFICATION ON A TOTAL OF THAT.
>> I WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND COUNT.
>> CAN YOU E-MAIL ME THAT? >> YES.
>> THANK YOU . >> YOU GUYS ARE VERY SAD BUT THAT IS THE END OF THESE DOCUMENTS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, WE WILL HAVE TO POST BY THE END OF BUSINESS FRIDAY, THE FORM THREE THAT WILL BE ESSENTIALLY THE MAXIMUM RATES, LEVIES AND ET CETERA RELATED TO THE BUDGET. YOUR PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 11TH. I THINK MY QUESTION HERE, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS NEW FOR ALL OF US TOGETHER AS A GROUP. I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WOULD NOT LIKE A TWO AND A HALF HOUR PRESENTATION AT THE BOARD MEETING ON THE 11TH. WHAT DATA AND INFORMATION WOULD YOU WANT? OR IS THIS DATA, IN A FINALIZED FORM ON THE WEBSITE, SUFFICIENT? AND WE WOULD JUST REVIEW THE FORMS AND MAJOR FUNDS IN TERMS OF OVERALL REVENUE AND EXPENSE? I JUST WANT TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU ALSO THAT WE COME PREPARED .
>> I THINK BEFORE ANY BOARD MEMBERS ANSWER, WE ALSO HAVE, AND BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, A BUDGET FINANCE COMMITTEE. MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS QUESTIONS THERE AND SO EVENTUALLY, AS WE GET TO THE BOARD MEETING, WE CAN BE MORE GENERAL AND FUND TOTALS.
I WILL LEAVE IT TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE. WE HAVE THAT OTHER
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. >> I WANT TO GET FEEDBACK TO GET AN IDEA. THIS IS EASY WHEN IT IS FINALIZED. SCAN IT AND PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE AS AN ATTACHMENT, AS A RESOURCE. IF THERE IS OTHER DATA, THE ACTUAL DETAILED LINE ITEM, YOU MIGHT IMAGINE IS A ZILLION PAGES. THAT WOULD BE ONE -- IT CAN BE DONE. IT IS JUST A LOT OF DATA. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERING WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO HEAR. IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK OR SHARE IT WITH DOCTOR KEGLEY OR MISSES MADISON. KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR THE 11. WE WILL HAVE ITEMS TO YOU A WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING.
I THINK THAT IS A WEEK FROM TOMORROW.
>> IS THAT OFF A WEEK? >> I'M OFF A WEEK.
>> TWO WEEKS FROM TOMORROW. >> FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS, IS GOING BACK TO PAGE 10. THE ITEMS WITHIN THE MANUAL THAT WE DISCUSSED, THAT COULD BE LISTED IN THOSE FOR THE EXPENDITURES AND THE MISCELLANEOUS.
>> THANK YOU. >> WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO ATTACH, AS AN ANCILLARY, THE ACTUAL ACCOUNTING MANUAL THAT DESCRIBES THOSE THINGS AS A RESOURCE?
>> ABSOLUTELY, YES. >> WE COULD DO THAT TOO.
>> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN MORE INFORMATION ON THE INSURANCE CLAIMS FOR LOSS, JUST IN GENERAL LOOKING AT THAT.
>> YES. >> MR. LAKE AND I ACTUALLY JUST HAD A MEETING ON RENEWAL PRELIMINARY. IT WILL COME TO THE BOARD IN DECEMBER FOR FINAL APPROVAL. BUT I THINK PERHAPS WE WILL HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. AND WE SHARED INFORMATION FOR OUR RESIDENT EXPERT TO REVIEW PERHAPS. AND LOOKING AT YOU MR. ORR. I GAVE MISSES LANGE THE THINGS ANY TO YOUR BUSINESS FOR YOU COULD BE A DIFFERENT SET OF EYES AND I COULD. WHEN THE CO ROLE WAS ADDED, BECAUSE THAT HANDLES LIABILITY. WE ARE TRANSITIONING THAT OVER. I DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE IT IS MONEY. MR. LAKE HANDLES THE INVESTIGATIVE SIDE
OF THAT. SO CERTAINLY. >> I THINK THE BIG THING WOULD
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BE TALKING TO MR. HIGLEY. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE STAYING IN THE PARTNERS WITHIN THE BROKERAGE, THEY COULD SHOUT THAT OUT AND BRING US I WOULD SAY THREE QUOTES. PRETTY STANDARD FOR THE INDUSTRY. BRING US THREE OPTIONS. NEXT YEAR, WE WILL GO FURTHER, DEEPER DIVE. THAT IS EASY FOR THEM TO DO IT I SHOULDN'T SAY IT IS EASY FOR THEM TO DO BUT THEY CAN TAKE THE INFORMATION THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AND ASK FOR IT.>> THE USUALLY PUT IT IN AND SHOW YOU WHO THEY QUOTED AND WHY. I THINK THE CHALLENGE THEY SHARED WITH US SPECIFICALLY COMES BACK TO OUR SIZE. PROPERTY IS OUT OF CONTROL NATIONALLY. NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH US BECAUSE OF OUR SIZE.
WE ARE TOO BIG OF A RISK FOR MIDSIZED ORGANIZATION.
>> THAT IS TRUE. AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER OTHER IDEAS AS FAR AS LOOKING WHAT THE CLAIMS HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY AND WITH THE DEDUCTIBLE IS, IS A BIG DEAL.
IF WE ARE NOT TURNING THINGS AND UP TO 50 GRAND, DOES THE DEDUCTIBLE MATCH THAT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? THERE ARE A
MILLION OTHER THINGS. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. ORR
NEEDS A MEETING WITH MR. LAKE. >> ALSO, THE DATES ON BUDGET ASSUMPTIONS, ANYTHING FROM THE STUDENT ACCOUNT, THOSE DATES. I THINK THAT WILL BE FLUID AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET
FINAL APPROVAL. >> YES. JUST TO GIVE YOU MORE OF AN IDEA OF MORE LIKE WHAT THE FUNDING PERIOD IS AND WHAT HAVE AN ACCOUNT IT IS AND WHAT FUNDING IT IMPACTS.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I BELIEVE THE DOB HAS A FLOWCHART AND THEY ARE ADJUSTED FOR THE BASIC GRANT.
>> EVEN IF IT IS A HYPERLINK TO THE SITE, IT IS HELPFUL.
>> I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD FINISH EARLY.
>> IT IS NORMALLY TWO HOURS BUT I FELT LIKE WE MIGHT NEED A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TONIGHT BECAUSE IT IS NEW FOR ALL OF US AND A LOT OF DATA. ANY OTHER FEEDBACK WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE.
I SHARED WITH MISSES LANGE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP OR UNDERSTANDING HISTORICALLY THE PRESENTATION HAS NOT BEEN THIS EXPANSIVE. AND SO, IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT COME UP WHEN WE NEED TO CHAT, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AT YOUR CONVENIENCE. UNLESS I HAVE RUN AWAY BECAUSE IT IS
BUDGET SEASON AND IRAN AWAY. >> MISSES MADISON IS AVAILABLE
THOUGH. >> IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT FOR THE COMMUNITY IF PEOPLE ARE WATCHING OR STREAMING LATER THAT ALL OF THIS SHOULD BE ON BOARD DUCKS TOO, RIGHT?
>> TOMORROW. >> TOMORROW WE WILL HAVE AN ONBOARD DOCKS. IT IS INCREDIBLY DETAILED. PEOPLE CAN GO THROUGH IT AND SEAL THE SAME INFORMATION WE HAVE. BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL PUTTING IT TOGETHER. IT IS UNBELIEVABLY DETAILED AND COMPLEX, ALL THE NUMBERS THAT GO INTO IT.
>> I HAVE THE BIG PICTURE QUESTIONS ANSWERED WHICH WERE BASICALLY WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM AND THE LATEST ESTIMATES AND WE ARE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO DIALED IN AT THIS POINT. AND WHAT WE WILL EXPENSE OUT OF THOSE WITH THE REFERENDUM AND WHAT IT WILL GENERATE AND WHAT WE PAY FOR WITH IT. SO WE ARE STARTING TO DIAL IN THE FINAL STUFF HERE SO
>> WITH
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