Oct 13, 2021 Board Meeting

[1. Meeting Opening]

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>>> CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, WELCOME, EVERYONE, WILL YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

[2. Snapshots of Success]

>>> OKAY. FIRST UP WE HAVE OUR RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SHARE AND I WILL HAVE SECRETARY

CHAMBERS READ THAT FOR US. >> A RESOLUTION.

WHEREAS DEMONSTRATING WHAT IS POSSIBLE WHEN COMMITTED SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS AND EDUCATORS HOLD ALL STUDENTS TO HIGH STANDARDS, FALL CREEK ELEMENTARY HAS BEEN HONORED WITH THE BLUE RIBBON AWARD FOR DEMONSTRATING EXEMPLARY ACHIEVEMENTS AND WHEREAS EVERY YEAR SINCE 1982 THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION HAS SOUGHT OUT TO CELEBRATE GREAT AMERICAN SCHOOLS AND IN 2021 FALL CREEK LIMIT ARE YOU IS BEING RECOGNIZED BY SECRETARY OF EDUCATION AS ONE OF THE 325 NATIONAL WHETHER BLUE RIBBON SCS BASE ON ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE AND CLOSING ACHIEVEMENT GAPS AND WHEREAS HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN SCHOOLS HAS A GROWING LEGACY OF NATIONAL BLUE RIBBON SCHOOLS INCLUDING HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN HIGH SCHOOL 2004, HAMILL TOON SOUTHEASTERN HIGH SCHOOL 2005, SAND CREEK INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL 2007 AVENUE 2007, THE FISHERS ELEMENTARY 2011, HAMILL TOON JUNIOR HIGH 2014, GEIST ELEMENTARY 2016 AND THORPE CREEK ELEMENTARY 2021.

AND WHEREAS THE NATIONAL BLUE RIBBON AWARD IS THE HIGHEST AWARD BESTOWED TO SCHOOLS AND BRINGS WELCOMED AND DESERVED ATTENTION AND RECOGNITION TO THORPE CREEK ELEMENTARY AND WHEREAS THIS AWARD AFFIRMS THE HARD WORK OF THORPE CREEK ELEMENTARY PRINCIPAL SARAH CRAN,S, STAFF, STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY IN PROVIDING RELEVANT LEARNING EXPERIENCES AND FOSTERING A STRONG SENSE OF BELONGING AND INCREASING ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE FOR ALL. AND BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES DOES HEREBY CONGRATULATE AND MEND THORPE CREEK ELEMENTARY ON THEIR EXTRAORDINARY SUCCESS IN BEING FLAMED A 2020 NATIONAL BLUE RIBBON SCHOOL AND FURTHERMORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN SCHOOLS THAT THIS RESOLUTION SHALL BE IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT AFTER HISS ADOPTION.

>> AND HERE TODAY TO CELEBRATE WE HAVE MS. CRAN AND SOME SPECIAL GUESTS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US AT

THE PODIUM. >> WELCOME.

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING DR. STOKES, PRESIDENT PRI CHET, VICE PRESIDENT BOYAR AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEES, I'M SARAH CUR RAN, I'M HUMBLED AND HONORED TO STAND BEFORE YOU AS THE PRINCIPAL OF THORPE CREEK LIMIT, A 2021 NATIONAL BLUE RIBBON SCHOOL OF EXCELLENCE.

LAST FEBRUARY, THE THORPE CREEK RECEIVED AN INVITATION TO COMPLETE A RIGOROUS APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE NATIONAL BLUE RIBBON SCHOOL PROGRAM FROM THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. AT THAT TIME WE LEARNED THAT OUR SCHOOL HAD BEEN NOMINATED BY THE INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION BASED UPON DATA FROM OUR SCHOOL DATING BACK TO THE 2018/WESTBOUND SCHOOL YEAR. THIS AWARD IS AN AFFIRMATION OF THE INTENTIONAL INSTRUCTIONAL WORK EACH OF OUR 13 ELEMENTARIES IN HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN SCHOOLS HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF DR. STEPHANIE LONE. SO MANY EDUCATORS OWN THIS

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RECOGNITION. >> GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JANNA ALLEN. I'M THE AT TENANT PRINCIPAL AT THORPE CREEK LIMIT AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE CAN THANK THE TEACHERS AND STAFF AT THORPE CREEK WHO GIVE SO MUCH TIME, ATTENTION AND ENERGY TO THEIR STUDENTS EVERY DAY, MANY OF WHICH ARE JOINING US HERE TONIGHT.

THE STAFF AT TC.E. RUELY HONORS A KIDS FIRST MIND SET AND BELIEFS IN PROVIDING AN EDUCATION THAT ENCOMPASSES THE WHOLE CHILD. OUR STAFF IS EQUALLY COMMITTED TO LEARNING AND GROWING AS LIFELONG EARNERS THEMSELVES AND THROUGH A COLLECTIVE AND COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WORK TOWARD THE COMMON GOAL OF STUDENT GROWTH AND ACHIEVEMENT.

BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS SAKE COMPONENT TO THE WORK WE DO AT THORPE CREEK. ALL CLASSROOMS BEGIN EACH DAY WITH A COMMUNITY CIRCLE ALLOWING STUDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GREET ONE ANOTHER AND BEGIN THE DAY CONVICTING AS A CLASSROOM FAMILY. STUDENT LEADERSHIP IS EMBRACED THROUGH STUDENT CENTERED APPROACHES BOTH INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF THE CLASSROOM. FOR EXAMPLE, DID YOU KNOW THAT TCE'S MONTHLY NEWS LETTER IS WRITTEN AND POLICE OFFICER ESTABLISHED BY OUR THIRD AND FOURTH GRADE JOURNAL ISES.

STUDENTS ARE HELD TO HIGH EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE OF A COMMON BELIEF BY OUR STAFF THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE CAPABLE LEARNERS AND IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTORS TO OUR SOCIETY.

ULTIMATELY IT IS THE STRONG PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR STAFF, OUR STUDENTS, OUR FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY THAT MAKES EVERY DAY A GREAT DAY TO BE A TCE CARDINAL.

THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M COURTNEY GIBSON, A FIRST GRADE TEACHER AT THUNDERSTORM CREEK, AND AFTER HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AT TEACHERS COLLEGE AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY WITH OTHER TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS FROM THORPE CREEK ELEMENTARY AND ACROSS THE H FC SCHOOL DISTRICT, ALL ABOUT THE DEEPEST INCITES IN TEACHING, WRITING AS WELL AS TO FOSTER THE LOVE OF WRITING WITHIN OUR STUDENTS MY COLLEAGUES AND I CAME BACK AND SHARED OUR LEARNING WITH OTHERWISE ACROSS OUR BUILDING. OUR GRADE LEVEL TEAMS USED RUBRICS TO ASSESS STUDENT WHERE I WILL GO AND WE WORKED TOGETHER IN PROFESSIONAL LEARNING COMMUNITIES TO AMPLIFY OUR WHOLE GROUP AND INDIVIDUAL INSTRUCTION.

OUR STUDENTS GAINED INDEPENDENCE AND GROWTH MIND SETTLE.

THEY NOW SEE THEMSELVES AS WRITERS WITH A STORY TO TELL.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M CASEY CHANG, THIRD TEACHER, TONIGHT I'M PROUD AND HUMBLED TO HELP CELEBRATE THIS AWARD.

FROM THE TEACHER LENS I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR MANY REASONS. TONIGHT TWO SPECIFICALLY COME TO MIND. WE ARE BLESSED TO HAVE BUILDING LEADERS TO NOT ONLY VALUE BUT ENCOURAGE US TO FIND JOY IN THE JOURNEY. THIS TRANSLATES INTO THE WORK WE DO WITH OUR STUDENTS OEN ON A DAILY BASIS.

WE ARE ABLE TO MEET LEARNERS WHERE THEY ARE AND HELP THEM CELEBRATE SUCCESSES ALONG THE WAY.

WE ARE ALSO CONTINUALLY WORKING TO EMPOWER OUR STUDENTS TO BE A MORE INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY. THIS CONTINUES TO CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ACADEMIC SUCCESS AS WELL.

>> WE HAVE 44TH GRADE STUDENT LEADERS THAT WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT MAKES THORPE CREEK SPECIAL TO

THEM. >> GOOD EVENING.

I'M A FOURTH GRADE STUDENT AT THUNDERSTORM CREEK LIMIT AND WHAT I THINK MAKES TCE SPECIAL THAT WE GET TO WORK IN A NICE QUIET ENVIRONMENT AND THAT EACH YEAR IN FOURTH GRADE WE GET TO

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MAKE PUPPETS. >> HI.

I'M A FOURTH GRADE STUDENT AT THORPE CREEK ELEMENTARY.

I LOVER MAKING FRIENDS FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS.

>> HI. I'M A FOURTH GRADE STUDENT AT THUNDERSTORM CREEK ELEMENTARY. MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT THORPE CREEK IS BEING WHAT WE WANT TO BE WITHOUT BEING TOTALLY CRAZY.

I ALSO LIKE THE TEACHERS AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE GET TO DO IN THE DIFFERENT GRADES LIKE THE PUPPET WE GET TO DO IN FOURTH GRADE AND ALSO I LIKE THE AFTER-SCHOOL ACTIVITIES LIKE STUDENT COUNCIL AND CHEER CLUB.

>> HEM LOW, MY NAME IS EVAN I LIKE THORPE CREEK ELEMENTARY BECAUSE I THINK THAT ALL THE TEACHERS ARE REALLY NICE AND HELPING AND ALL THE STUDENTS THAT COME BEHIND ALL THE TEACHERS HELP THEM GET AHEAD AND I REALLY LIKE ALL THE AFTER-SCHOOL CLUBS. THEY MAKE THEM VERY FUN AND ENTERTAINING AND I'M GRATEFUL IF EVER EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.

>> WE'LL BE HOSTING A COMMUNITY CELEBRATION AT THUNDERSTORM CREEK FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES LATER IN NOVEMBER.

WE HOPE YOU'LL JOIN US. AN INVITATION WILL BE FORTHCOMING. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

OUR TEAM? >> SO I HEARD A NAME.

ARE YOU A STUDENT AT ONE OF OUR TEACHERS?

>> YES. >> GOOD DEAL.

SO I AM SO HAPPY THAT YOU ALL TOOK PART IN CELEBRATION.

THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT STUDENTS.

AND OF COURSE TEACHERS YOU KNOW WE THANK YOU AND ADMINISTRATION WE THANK YOU AS WELL AND I WOULD BE REMISS TO NOT THANK OUR FAMILIES BECAUSE WE COULD NOT DO THIS WITHOUT THEM IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU ALL AND

CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU.

>> AND THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE PROCESS.

I WAS NOT AWARE THAT NOT ANY SCHOOL CAN APPLY.

YOU HAVE TO BE INVITED AND THEN I'M SURE IT'S A LOT OF PAPERWORK, THINGS YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT THAT YOU PROBABLY CAN'T DO DURING THE SCHOOL DAY. BUT THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT

EXTRA TIME. >> IT WAS VERY EXCITING LAST FEBRUARY WHEN THE INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION PHONED AND SAID ARE YOU COMPLETING THE COMPLICATION AND I SAID YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE A NOMINATION TO COMPLETE APPLICATION AND THEY SAID YOU RECEIVED ONE, IT'S IN YOUR E-MAIL AND I CHECKED AND IT WAS IN MY JUNK E-MAIL. SO I SAID THANK YOU FOR THE PHONE CALL AND SAID WE'RE ON IT YEARS WE NEED TO TALK TO JEFF ABOUT THAT. THAT'S AWESOME.

SO YOU WERE -- YOU'VE HAD LESS TIME TO COMPLETE IT EVEN.

>> WE WERE A COUPLE WEEKS BEHIND AND IT WAS IN A PANDEMIC AND WE ARE WE WERE ALL STILL ADJUSTING TO HOW WE COULD COLLABORATE AND COMPLETE THE APPLICATION AS A TEAM.

SO WE USED SOME PRETTY INNOVATIVE MEASURES TO SHARE OUT BECAUSE THE APPLICATION IS IN A SECURE GOVERNMENT PORTAL THAT ONLY ONE PERSON CAN ACCESS AT A TIME.

BUT THE TEAM REALLY CAME TOGETHER, THE TEACHING TEAM, ALL OF THE THUNDERSTORM CREEK STAFF PROVIDEED INPUT AND IDEAS.

>> SO NOT EVERYBODY NOMINATED OBVIOUSLY GETS THE AWARD AND YOU'RE ONLY ONE OF SIX IN THE WHOLE STATE AND I THINK ONLY A FEW OF THOSE WERE ELEMENTARY ELY SCHOOLS.

>> THERE'S AN INDIANAPOLIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THIS WE HOPE

TO GET TO KNOW A LITTLE BETTER. >> SO MANY ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS IN THE ENTIRE STATE. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING THE APPLICATION PROCESS. AND THANK YOU BOYS AND GIRLS FOR COMING. YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

PICTURE, SO FEW WHY DON'T YOU DON'T LEAVE

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>>> >>> NEXT WE HAVE A CONSENT

[3. Consent Agenda]

FOR THAT. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT

AGENDA AS PRESENTED. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION MADE BY JULIE, SECONDED BY BRAD.

COMMENTS OR CONCERN CONCERNS? I'LL HAVE JULIE CALL FOR THE

VOTE. >> .

[4. Public Comments]

[5. Action Items]

PRESENT. >> SO GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. BACK IN JUNE YOU MAY RECALL I WAS HERE AND WE DISCUSSED AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF FISHERS UNDER WHICH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TRANSFERRED WHAT WAS CALLED THREE ACRES OF GROUND TO THE CITY OF FIRST NAMERS.

IN RETURN THE CITY OF FISHERS AGREED TO FUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS SOME TEACHERS FOR EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING PROGRAMS AND THAT WAS A PRESENTATION THAT YOU APPROVED THAT AGREEMENT, AND NOW I'M BACK AND I'M BACK BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE DID THE AGREEMENT IT SAID APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES AND THE CITY OF FISHERS HAD NOT COMPLETED THEIR SIDE WORK OR THEIR ENGINEERING, AND AS THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS THEY DETERMINED THAT THEY NEEDED ABOUT A 30-FOOT STRIP ALONG THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE, IN ORDER TO ENCOMPASS DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. AND SO THEY CAME BACK AND SAID WE'D LIKE TO ADD 30 FEET AT THE SOUTH END.

THAT'S ABOUT A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, SO IT'S STILL APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRES, IT'S ROUGHLY 3.25 ACHE E AND I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT CHANGE AND HOPEFULLY TO APPROVE THAT CHANGE, I TALKED TO MR. DOWKS AS TO WHETHER THIS CHANGE WOULD ADVERSELY IMPACT THE SCHOOLS REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY.

MR. DATE OF DATE OF DO YOU AND S WOULD NOT CHANGE.

SO I'M ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE QUARTER STRIP ADDED TO THE PROJECT. QUESTIONS?

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DAY?

>> NOT REALLY A QUESTION, JUST A COMMENT.

BY LOOKING AT IT AGAIN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN OUT LOUD WHAT PART OF

THAT IS? >> IT'S THE -- SO THIS IS A RECTANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY IT'S ON 136TH STREET AND THIS IS

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IF YOU LOOK -- MR. -- FACEBOOK MIGHT HAVE IT A -- IF YOU CAN MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT TO THE EAST.

SO IF YOU LOOK ON THE -- MY LEFT SIDE OF THE DIAGRAM, YOU SEE LOT 103, LOT 102, ET CETERA, THAT'S A SUBDIVISION ON THE WESTERN

BORDER OF THE PROPERTY. >> JEFF, CAN YOU PUT YOUR CURSER

WHERE HE'S REFERRING? >> YES, THAT'S THE SUBDIVISION

NEXT DOOR. >> SO BASICALLY ARE THEY ASKING FOR THE AREA THAT'S BETWEEN THE YELLOW LINE SKYLIGHT AND THE

PURPLE LINE? >> YES, AND IT'S FOR THAT DRAINAGE FOR THEIR SITE, YES. GYRE.

>> MY QUESTION WAS TO ASK AWE THE LOCATION, I KNOW BACK IN JUNE YOU TOLD US BUT APPRECIATE THAT.

>> SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE --

>> I WOULD LIKE TO MANGE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF AN ADDITIONAL .287 ACRES LOCATED ON ONE THIRTY-SIXTH TO

THE CITY OF FISHERS. >> I'LL SECOND.

>> MOTION MEDAL BY MICHELLE, SECONDED BY SARAH PARKS REESE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I'LL HAVE YOU JULIE CALL FOR THE VOTE.

>> MOTION PASSES 6-0. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING

TONIGHT. >> GOOD EVENING.

>> THINGS, -- THANKS YOU TOO. >> NEXT UP WE HAVE FOR

[6. Information Items]

IT'S PUBLIC HEARING AND I HAVE KAY DOWELING HERE TO TALK WITH

US ABOUT THE BUDGET. >> GOOD EVENING.

HOW'S IS EVERYONE THIS EVENING? >> FANTASTIC, HOW ARE YOU ALL?

>> GOOD. MR. HARRISON WOULD YOU POST THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 2022 ATTACHMENT THAT'S ON THE WEBSITE, THE FIRST ITEM, PLEASE? WOULD YOU SCROLL -- PERFECT.

SO INDIANA STATUTE PROSCRIBES THE ADVERTISEMENTS THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH TO HAVE OUR BUDGET APPROVED ANNUALLY.

SO BEFORE YOU HERE YOU WOULD BE OUR FORM THREE, THIS SHOWS THE FUNDS THAT WE GET APPROVED FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO HAVE APPROVED FOR SPENDING THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

THEIR BUDGET ESTIMATES, THE MAXIMUM ESTIMATE FOR FUNDS TO BE RAISES IF THERE ARE ANY EXCESSIVE LEVY APPEALS, THE CURRENT TAX LEAFERY AND THEN THE LEVY PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE.

WE ARE CAPPED BY THE STATE IN HOW MUCH THAT CAN INCREASE EACH YEAR. WE DO BUILD IN SOME CONTINGENCY BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE STATE DOES GET ASSESSED VALUE AHEAD OF THE BUDGET PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S ONLY HAPPENED IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THERE'S STILL APPEALS, THERE'S STILL THE FACT THAT IT COULD DROP BECAUSE OF AN OUTSTANDING APPEAL AND SO WE ADVERTISE A LITTLE HIGHER TO PROTECT OURSELVES SO THE RATE WILL SUPPORT THE LEVY WE NEED.

SO THAT'S THE REASON. THIS CAN THOSE WILL BE THE ACTUAL RATES. WE DO TRACK THAT SO WE HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET PLAN. OWNERSHIP GOING TO GO OVER THE FUNDS VIMLY AT THIS TIME. SO THE FIRST FUND IS THE REFERENDUM EXEMPT FUND, BUDGET ESTIMATE IS 23,709,535.

YOU CAN SEE THERE THE MAXIMUM ESTIMATED FUNDS TO BE RAISED AND THEN THE CURRENT TAX LEVY AND THAT FUND IS A RATE CONTROLLED FUND SO THE TAX RATE IS THE SAME AT ALL TIMES, SO WE CAN'T INCREASE IT. THAT'S PROSCRIBED BY STATUTE.

NEXT RAINY DAY FUND, THERE IS NO TAX LEAFERY? RAINY DAY. WE DO BUDGET ANNUALLY TWO AND A HALF MILLIONS TO PROTECT US FOR UNANTICIPATED COSTS.

MOST RECENTLY I THINK WE'VE NEEDED IT WHEN WE ARE DOING THE LARGER BOND ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING EVERY YEAR AND THEY'RE LARGER, WE'RE REPAYING THEM THE NEXT YEAR, SO WE DO WHAT'S A BOND ANTICIPATION NOTE SO IT'S SORT OF BEFORE WE SELL THE BONDS IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO TAX PAYERS IF WE DO THE BAN AND THEN WENT ISSUE THE BONDS LATER. BUFF SOMETIMES THE WORK GETS

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WE PAY IT OUT OF THERE AND REPAY IT WHEN THE BONDS ARE SOLD.

THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, THIS IS OUR TRADITIONAL DEBT SERVICE SO THIS IS ALL DEBT AFTER 2010, ACTUALLY IF IT WASN'T FOR REFERENDUM BECAUSE THERE USED TO BE EXEMPT THAT.

SO $31 MILLION -- 41,398,813 IS OUR BUDGET EXPENDITURE.

YOU CAN SEE THE 40,500,000 IS THE MAXIMUM TO BE RAISED ASK THE CURRENT TAX LEVY IS 36,668,595. I'M GOING TO DO THE DEBT TOGETHER BECAUSE THERE'S A POINT THERE ABOUT THE RATE THAT I WANT TO GO THROUGH. SCHOOL PENSION DEALT, 388,233 IS THE BUDGET ESTIMATE. IF YOU WOULD REMEMBER, THIS IS BACK TO THE 2005 FORWARD FUNDING OF POST EMPLOYMENT B.S.

THAT THE SCHOOLS COULD SELL DEBT TO BASICALLY OFFSET THAT RELIGIONTY. THEY DID PAYOUTS AND BOUGHT OUT DISHOUSES THIS IS THE REMNANT OF THAT AND WILL BE RETIRED NORTHWEST NEXT SEVERAL YEARS FOR OUR PURPOSES.

SO YOU BE SEE THERE THE MAXIMUM FUNDS TO BE RAISED AND THEN THE CURRENT TAX LEVY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

I'M GOING TO SKIP SELF-INSURANCE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE REFERENDUM EXEMPT CAP BUT THIS IS PART OF A REFERENDUM CAPITAL THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED PRIOR TO ME BEING HERE.

THAT ANNUAL NUMBER THERE IS THE BUDGET 12,456,000.

YOU CAN SEE THE MAXIMUM FUNDS ESTIMATED TO BE RAISED AND THEN THE CURRENT TAX LEAFERY AT 12,398,457.

SO THOSE THREE DEBT FUNDS FOR MANY YEARS, I UNDERSTAND, HAVE BEEN AT THE SAME RATE. YEAH, 5898 AND SO WE DO NOT GO OVER THAT. SO WENT WE GET OUR NOTICE FROM THE STATE THAT SAYS HERE'S WHERE WE'RE PUTTING ALL YOUR TACK RATES AT THAT'S THE POINT WHERE WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF WE HAVE TO BUT WE KEEP THAT DEBT RATE AT THAT 5898 AND IT HAS BEEN FOR MAYBE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, BUT A LONG TIME.

SO THAT'LL WHEN WE FINALIZE WE WON'T GO OVER THAT RATE FOR CERTAIN. SELF-INSURANCE FUND WE BUDGET ANNUALLY I BELIEVE FOR OUR DENTAL PROGRAM AND SO THAT IS WHERE THAT'S THERE. THAT'S WHERE IT'S BEEN IN PRIOR YEARS BUT THOSE ARE SUPPORTED THROUGH FEES, EMPLOYER/EMPLOYEE SHARE. THE EDUCATION FUND, THAT'S OUR BIGGEST PEOPLE FUND, THAT'S OUR TEACHER FUND, THAT'S WHAT SUPPORTING YOUR BUILDINGS, YOU CAN SEE THERE BUDGET ESTIMATE IS 150,192,389. THERE IS NO TAX LEVY OF ANY SORT IN THAT FUND. THE EDUCATION FUND IS PREDOMINANT SUPPORTED THROUGH THE STATE TUITION SPORT WHICH IS WHAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE STATE OF INDIANA.

AND A FEW OTHER COUNTS IN BETWEEN BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO BIGGEST ONES. NOTABLE ITEMS WITHIN THIS FUND FOR NEXT YEAR, THE BIGGEST THING IS THIS IS WHERE TEACHER BARGAINING IMPACTS THE BUDGET FOR THIS AND SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCESS NOW BUT THIS IS YOUR PEOPLE FUND AT THE BUILDING LEVEL AND WE DO CURRICULUM SUPPORTS. MET WITH DR. KEGLY AND SOON TO BE DR. LIPPY TO TALK THROUGH WHAT KIND OF PROVISIONS DO WE NEED TO PLAN FOR SO THAT WE CAN BE PROACTIVE AND NOT REACTIVE AND THAT WAS A LARGE PART OF OUR CONVERSATION.

SO THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE WORKED THROUGH I'LL TELL YOU THAT, SO WE HAD SOME FUN GOING THROUGH IT BUT THE BIGGEST PART OF IT IS PEOPLE AND THEN YOUR SUPPLIES FOR TEACHERS.

THE OPERATIONS FUND THE ANNUAL BUDGET THERE IS 36,391,882.

MAXIMUM ESTIMATED FUNDS TO BE RAISED 36 MILLION THAT CURRENT TAX LEVY IS 34,199,818. OPERATIONS REFERENDUM, THE DEALT FUNDS ARE ALL PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED AND SO OUR ASSESSED VALUE AS THAT ASSESSED VALUE GOES UP THAT'S POSITIVE FOR THE RATE IMPACT IF YOUR ASSESSED VALUE IS GOING DOWN THAT IS A NEGATIVE AND IT WILL CAUSE YOU TO HAVE TO DRIVE YOUR RATE TO ISSUE THE SAME AMOUNT OF A BUDGET ANNUALLY.

WE'RE. WE DO NOT HAVE THATTISH HERE AND OUR ASSESSED VALUE WAS ABOUT 9.2 BILLION HERE IN OUR DISTRICT, WHICH KEEP IN MIND IS ALSO IT'S ALSO INCLUDES THAT

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THAT'S WHAT MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING.

WE ARE DOWN THE REVERSE. THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE REFERENDUM AND IF YOU DO 15 PERCENT OF 150 MILLION YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT OFFSETS SO WE'RE FUNDING PLUS IN EDUCATION, SO STATE TUITION SUPPORT MONEYS AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING INTO EDUCATION TO SUPPORT THAT FUND TO ITS FULLEST EXTENT.

JEFF, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT ATTACHMENT.

SO THE STATE REQUIRES US ESSENTIALLY TO PROPOSE WE KEEP TRACK OF ALL PROPOSED CAPITAL EXPENDSTURES THAT EXCEED $10,000 IF THEY ARE TO BE PAID FROM THE OPERATIONS FUND, WE ARE REQUIRED TO ADVERTISE IT ON THIS THREE YEAR SCHEDULE.

THIS IS PUT TOGETHER BASED ON ACOMBINATION OF FACILITIES.

STEPHANIE MADISON THE DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS AS WELL AS THE BUILDING PRINCIPALS THEY'RE WORKING ALL IN CONJUNCTION, SOME OF IT'S TEN YEAR PLANS -- SO THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE WITHIN THE BUILDINGS, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON HERE SO IT CAN BE ADVERTISED AND IF YOU DO NOT HAVE IT ON THERE YOU CANNOT SPEND IT OUT OF OPERATION FUND MONEY.

SO THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

SO IT'S POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AVAILABLE FOR VIEW AND HAS BEEN SINCE OCTOBER 1. SO IT LISTS EVERYTHING -- JEFF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SCROLLING, PLEASE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S SEVERAL PAGES. IT ALSO IS ON THE WEBSITE AND IT JUST INCLUDES ALL OF THOSE -- THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, THE SIDE YOU KNOW WHAT THEY'RE REPLACING AND SO THAT'S WHAT MAKES UP A BIG CHUNK OF WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND WHEN WE INVEST.

WE CAN'T IT'S CAN AMEND FUTURE YEARS SO IF WE WERE TO MAKE A CLANG CHANGE WE WOULD SHOW THAT IN THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR'S PLAN.

BUT IF IT'S NOT ON HERE IT CAN'T BE PAID OUT OF THOSE FUNDS.

SO OUR BUS REPLACEMENT FUND, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 321 BUSES.

BY LAW YOU CAN REPLACE THOSE AFTER THEY'RE 12 YEARS OLD AND SO WHAT WE UTILIZE AS A THREE YEAR LEASE PURCHASE REPAYMENT SO WE CAN LEVERAGE OUR DOLLARS FURTHER.

THIS YEAR WE'LL HAVE -- WELL, IN THE NEXT YEAR WE'LL REPLACE 24 BUSES AND THEN THE BUDGET FOR BUS REPLACEMENT IS WITHIN THE OPERATIONS FUND, THE OPERATIONS FUND THEN PAYS THE AMOUNT OF THAT LEASE FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND THEN ANY OF THE OTHER LEASE PAYMENTS THAT HAVE TWO YEARS LEFT ON THEM, SO THAT'S HOW WE EXTEND THAT OUT TO LEVERAGE DOLLARS BETTER. IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT 150,000 PLUS FOR YOUR REGULAR OLD BUS SO IF YOU MULTIPLY THAT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, I MEAN IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR US.

ALL THREE OF THESE PLANS ARE THE LAST PLANS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO SHARE AND ADVERTISE AND HOLD AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO ON TO THE HEARING PART FOR THE MIGHT BE COMMENT OR IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD

LIKE TO HEAR FROM ME TONIGHT. >> WHILE YOU'RE SUBSTANTIATING THERE I'LL HAVE THE BOARD ASK ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE AND

THEN -- >> WE'RE FORTUNATE TO GO TO THE IS.B.A. CONFERENCE, AND I GOT TO SIT IN ON THE BUDGET ONE SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I DID HAVE TO ASK IF YOU CAN REPEAT NOT JUST FOR ME BUT THE RAINY DAY FUND THAT WE HAVE, WHAT DO WE USE -- I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE COMMENT WE GOT IN THAT MEANING WAS THEY TRY TO HAVE IN THAT RAINY DAY FUND AT LEAST THREE PAY CYCLES.

DO WE MATCH THAT TOO OR NO

>> WE DO NOT MATCH THREE PAY CYCLES IN RE ANY DAY ON IS OWN, NO. WHAT WE DO KEEP IS I BELIEVE IT'S 8.6 SOMETHING PERCENT, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR OPERATING

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SO WHEN YOU ADD WHAT WE KEEP IN THOSE THREE FUNDS PLUS RAINY DAY THERE IS PROBABLY ENOUGH FOR THREE CYCLES IF YOU NEED IT BUT WE KEEP AN OPERATING BALANCE TO PROTECT OTHERSES FOR CASH FLOW.

>> AND THEN CAN YOU REITERATE TOO THAT RAINY DAY FUND IS A ONE TIME SPEND, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EARNS MONEY.

>> THERE'S NO REVENUE SOURCE TO RAINY DAY UNLESS WE ACTIVELY TRANSFER MONEY TOO IT SO REIMBURSEMENTS ARE WHAT WE'RE SEEING AND THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE WE'VE EXPENDED.

SO WE DON'T PUT ANYTHING OUT OF ITS BUT WE DON'T EXPECT TO GET

RETURNED OUR REIMBURSED. >> THANK YOU.

>> I THINK FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY IS IT DOESN'T FUND THINGS THAT ARE ON GOING FOR A ONE TIME --

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD? OKAY. I'LL KEEP YOU ON HAND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR EXEMPTS BUT I WILL INVITE THE PUBLIC TO COME SPEAK.

JUST REMINDER PUBLIC DECORUM, SO NO NAMING ANYONE BY THEIR NAME AND NO PROFANITY AND KEEP EVERY MORNING PROFESSIONAL.

SO FIRST UP I HAVE SHANNON FIELDS.

WELCOMES. >> I'M SPEAKING TWICE TONIGHT SO YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ME TWICE. FIRST WE DO APPRECIATE YOU TAKING INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY TONIGHT.

I WOULD REQUEST THAT INFORMATION RELATED TO THE BUTT BE EASIER TO FIND ON THE THE H FC DISTRICT WEBSITE.

IT MAY BE LOCATED ELSEWHERE ON THE SITE BUT WHEN I CLICKED ON THE LINK FOR THE HEARING ON THE SITE'S PUBLIC NOTICED PAGE IT TOOK ME TO ANOTHER WEB PAGE CALLED INDIANA GATEWAY WHICH HAVE LINKS TO PUBLIC EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION, SOMETHING ALLED THE TIF DISTRICT VIEW CANCER SEVERAL OTHER LINKS NONE OF WHICH WERE USEFUL TO A FIRST TIME VISITOR.

I DID COLLECT THE LINK AGAIN JUST BEFORE THE MEETING AND IT DOES NOW LINK TO A NOTICE TO TAX PAYERS SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN CHAINED IN THE PAST DAY OR SO. I WOULD LIKE THE REQUEST THAT INFORM BE POSTED IN A TIMELY MANNER ACCESSIBLE TO ONE OR TWO CLEAR LINKS AND TO INCLUDE ACTUAL DETAIL.

THE FOR EXAMPLE LINKS TO THE FILES NOW ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ITEM. NOT EVERYONE NAVIGATES THROUGH THE DISTRICT'S WEBSITE EVERY DAY AND MAKING AN EFFORT TO MAKE INFORMATION EASIER TO FIND WOULD HELP IN TRANSPARENCY.

SPECIFIC TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET, SPECIFICALLY THE CAPITAL PROJECTS MAN MOST OF THE CAPITAL PROJECTS RELATE THE A PAIR OF SCHOOL PLAYGROUNDS AND ATHLETIC FACILITIES.

ABSENT ARE ANY PROJECTS REGARDING SCHOOL VENTILATION SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT CAN BE ASSUMED THERE ARE NO INVESTMENTLATION ISSUES. THE BOARD RAISED THE ISSUE EARLIER THIS YEAR AND YOU BE WAS TOLD THERE WEREN'T.

BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW SO THAT VENTILATION ISSUES DON'T BECOME AN EXCUSE TO SHUT DOWN SCHOOLS DUE TO THE OBSERVES AND FLOWS OF COVID-19. I'VE NOW BEEN IN THE SCHOOL BUT AT THAT TIME IT SEEMED LIKE IT COULD USE UPDATES THAT OTHER SCHOOLS ARE SLATED TO RECEIVE. A FINAL TOPIC RELATES TO THE CURRENT TAX RATE PROPERTY OWNERS PAY TO THE DISTRICT BASED ON THEIR SAME TIMES. LAST WEEK THE CITY OF FISHERS REDUCED ITS PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR US UPCOMING BUDGET AND ALTHOUGH SLIGHT DOES RECOGNIZE THAT INCREASED ASSESSMENTS ON HOMEOWNERS WILL STILL GENERATE INCREASED REVENUES DESPITE ALLOYER RATE. WILL HFC CONSIDER A SIMILAR ACTION? ACCORDING TO HAMILTON COUNTY'S PROPERTY REPORTS . . .

>>> THANK YOU. >>> THANK YOU.

DIANE EATON? WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING. >> THANK YOU.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET ITEM FUND 0022, THE REFERENDUM ON PARTICULAR ON ITEM ON SUPPORT SERVICES FOR INSTITUTES AND GENERAL STAFF. I ASKED THE BOARD TO BE TRANSPARENT IN WHAT THE ALMOST TWO, $3 MILLION ON SALARIES AND WAGES ARE USED FOR. HOUR HOW ARE THESE DOLLARS SPEND? I COULDN'T FIND HOW THEY ARE SPENT TO IMPROVE ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AND MY CONCERN IS

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I URGE THE BOARD TO REPORT TO THE PUBLIC HOW OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE CURRENTLY BEING COLLECTED FROM THE 2016 REFERENDUM ARE BEING USED. SINCE MY QUESTION IS THAT YOU'RE GETTING THE REFERENDUM TAX FUNDS COMBINED WITH THE MONEY RECEIVED FROM THE STATE ON THE EDUCATIONAL FUND AND STILL ARE NOT STRIVING -- YOU'RE NOT DRIVING HIGHER STANDARDIZED TESTS. AGAIN ACCORDING TO THE INDIANAPOLIS STAR HFC ON AVERAGE RANKS AT 46.4 PERCENT PRO-FIXER AND WE LAG BEHIND CARAMEL AT 58.1, BROWNSBURG AT 65.1, AND ARE ONLY AHEAD OF NOBLESVILLE AT 40 PERCENT.

THEREFORE HFC SCHOOLS IN THE BUSINESS OF EDUCATION AND OUR STUDENTS AND OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING USED HOWEVER WE'RE NOT GETTING THE MOST FROM THOSE TAGS DOLLARS, SO I URGE THE BOARD TO FOCUS ON STRATEGIES TO INCREASE OUR ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE.

>>> THANK YOU. RAY MADELINE.

WELCOME. >> WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.

THE BANNER ON THE CENSUS GOVERNMENT WEBSITE STATES THAT THE DATA FOR THIS YEAR WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE TO NO EARLIER THAN OR NO LATER THAN NOVEMBER 30. IT DOESN'T EXIST TODAY.

YET HFC IS MOVING FORWARD WITH A 2022 BUDGET NOT SUPPORTED BY UP-TO-DATE DEMOGRAPHICS WHICH BREAK DOWN POPULATIONS TO THE AGE GROUP LEVEL. AT THE PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING WE LEARNED THE DISTRICT ALSO IS NOT GOING TO USE AN ANALYTICAL ORGANIZATION FOR REDISTRICTING BECAUSE THE NEED TO RELOCATE STUDENTS WAS NOW BELIEVED TO BE RELATED TO ONE SCHOOL ONLY.

GIVEN THAT EDUCATIONAL FUNDING IS RELATED TO STUDENT POPULATION AND BUILDING AND BUSING DECISIONS ARE MADE ON WHERE THAT POPULATION IS AND WILL BE IN THE FUTURE, GOING FORWARD WITHOUT REAL DATA MAKES NO SENSE. ONE WOULD THINK A 270 MILLION-DOLLAR ORGANIZATION WOULD PRESENT CRITICAL SUPPORTING DATA SUCH AS CENSUS DATA, FISHERS CITY GROWTH INFORMATION AND HISTORICAL REVIEW OF POPULATION TRENDS TO SUPPORT THEIR BUDGET. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THAT SORT OF DATA ANALYSIS IS NOT AVAILABLE.

I URGE THE BOARD TO DO THESE THINGS: ONE, IF IT IS POSSIBLE, WAIT UNTIL THE CENSUS DATA IS AVAILABLE BEFORE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET F. TWO, DEVELOP PLANS TO PROCESS AVAILABLE DATA, CENSUS AND FISHERS DATA INTERNALLY OR THROUGH A COMPETENT THIRD PARTY VENDOR WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE.

THREE DEVELOP A FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC BUDGET PLAN INCORN RATING THE BEST ESTIMATES OF GROWTH TO HAVE A MEASURE STRATEGIC THAN REACTIVE VIEW OF BUDGETING.

A FIVE YEAR PLAN UPDATED YEARLY WITH NEW DATA WOULD SMOOTH OUT DECISIONS ON INVESTMENTS AND OFFER THE BEST CHANCE TO AVOID EXPENDITURES THAT BECOME OUT MODED IN FUTURE YEARS.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MARTY WOOD.

WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING.

HAVING BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS AT ONE OTHER TIME IN MY LIFE I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS AND YOU HAVE MY RESPECT FOR WHAT YOU GO THROUGH. I THINK A LOT OF THIS THOUGH REGARDING BUDGET IS ALL ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE IT MAKES CONFIDENCE IN WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING IN ORDER TO GET THINGS THROUGH IN A MUCH EASIER FORMAT.

LIKE OTHER EXEMPTS I TOO HAD A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFICULTY FINDING INFORMATION FROM A TRANSPARENCY PERSPECTIVE.

A LOT OF SEARCHING, A LOT OF BOUNCING AROUND, BUT I DID COME ACROSS A NUMBER OF THINGS. I DON'T KNOW -- IDENTIFY SEEP OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND EVEN FURTHER, ONE REPORT WENT BACK ABOUT TEN YEARS, THAT THERE'S UNSETTLEMENT FUNDS EVERY YEAR THAT ARE CARRIED FORWARD INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

IT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WHAT THIS SUGGESTS IS THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH THOUGHT GOING INTO THESE BUDGETS. WE'RE EITHER SPENDING IT OR CARRYING I WOULD OVER YEAR SO BUT IT KIND OF BREED AS LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN THE FACT THAT THERE'S RESPONSIBLE BUDGET PLANNING AND THERE'S CONTROL METRICS IN PLACE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE BOARD HAS LOOKED AT THIS, LOOKED AT

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NEXT ITEM IS THERE'S CONSIDERABLE ALLOCATION FOR LEGAL AND CONSULTING FEES. AT TIMES THESE FEES ARE NECESSARY BUT WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN THOSE ARE INTENTION PENSIONED YOU WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN EVERY YEAR YEAR AFTER YEAR. YOU WANT TO LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON AND IMPROVE PROCESSES AND IMPROVE POLICIES TO MITIGATE THE NEED FOR LEGAL AND CONSULTING EXPENSES MOVING FORWARD AND I'M NOT SEEING ANY INDICATION WHERE IT'S GOING DOWN, IT SEEMS TO BE GOING UP. ALSO WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR DETERMINING NEEDS VERSUS WANTS? THIS IS A BIG CONCERN FOR EVERY TAXPAYER. HOW DO YOU EVALUATE LEASES VERSUS PURCHASES? ARE YOU LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF EFFICIENCIES AND LOOKING AT CONSOLIDATING THINGS? THERE'S FIRMS THAT WILL COME IN AND PUT AN I.T. INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION, EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT ALL THE BUILDINGS, THOSE THINGS TEND TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES: I USED TOO TO DO THAT IN A PRIOR LINE OF WORK AND A LOT OF EFFICIENCIES ARE LOOKING AT THOSE FIXERS. EFFICIENCY.

I THINK LOOKING AT THOSE WOULD BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

DIDN'T SEE THAT. SO QUESTION IS HOW DO THESE DETAILS TO ENSURE TAX PAYERS THE BUDGET IS CENTRAL AND IT'S NOT MORE THAN -- WE KNOW WHAT THE TAXES ARE COMING IN AND WE GOT A TO MATCH IT WITH SPENDING GOING OUT.

THAT'S THE GENERAL PERCEPTION OUT THERE.

ALSO FROM WHAT I FOUND ON THE FEDERAL WEBSITE THERE WAS A COVID REIMBURSEMENT FOR $4.2 MILLION, I COUPLEDN'T FIND WHERE THAT WAS ITEMIZED ANYWHERE IN THE BUDGET.

BUT THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHUNK OF MONEY, DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT COME UP AFTER THIS ASK, WE HAVE MORE MONEY IN IT BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET THIS MONEY INTO TAX BASE IT NEVER COMES OUT.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

KIM LOGAN. WELCOME.

>> HI. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET AS WELL. I DID APPRECIATE THOUGH YOU HAD PUT SOME ADDITIONAL ATTACHMENTS ON THIS WEEK'S AGENDA AND THAT WAS VERY HELP. I DID SEE THOUGH OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS THERE IS AN ELI LILY GRANT AND IT'S GOING APPARENTLY TO DEI OFFICER INITIATIVE ASKS THINGS.

MY QUESTION IS IF THAT GRANT GOES AWAY, WHERE WILL THAT BE PAID FOR? IS IT GOING TO COME OUT OF A FUND OR WHATEVER IF YOU CONTINUE IT? THE SECOND ONE THAT FLOWS INTO THAT IS WHERE ARE THE METRICS CONCERNING KEI, THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT INTO THE DISTRICT, WHERE THOSE WHEN YOU HAVE A DEPARTMENT OF DEPARTMENTE A LINE ITEM FOR SURVEYS WHERE IS THAT DATA COMING IN AND SAYING WE DID THESE THINGS, OUR TEST SCORES WENT UP? BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING.

IN FACT ON THE INDIANA D.O.E. WEBSITE IT SHOWED CLEARLY SINCE SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN HAPPENING IN 2017 THE TEST SCORES ARE GOING DOWN AND LIKE SOMEONE MORE MENTIONED THAT'S DISAPPOINTING. MY KIDS WERE PERFORMING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. SEVERAL OF MY KIDS WENT TO SCHOOLS THAT WERE RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY AND I THINK IT WAS GREAT THAT THORPE CREEK BUT BUT WHEN MY KIDS WERE IN SCHOOL IT WASN'T JUST ONE OR TWO, IT WOULD BE FIVE OR SIX EVERY YEAR WERE BEING RECOGNIZED AT A NATIONAL RANKING AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT.

ALSO AFTER READING THE QUESTIONS ON THE PANORAMA SURVEY THAT ARE AVAILABLE, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. MY CHILDREN WERE IN THIS DISTRICT STILL I WOULD ABSOLUTELY OPT OUT.

THERE IS NOTHING THERE OF VALUE FOR ANSWERRIC EXCELLENCE AND IF YOU THINK THAT THERE IS I THINK YOU NEED TO REREADS IT AND REEVALUATE BECAUSE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

I HAVE REPEATEDLY YOU SAY ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE IS KEY.

THAT THAT'S OUR TOP OF PRIORITY BUT THEN I SEE THINGS LIKE PANORAMA SURVEYS AND THINGS LIKE DEI OFFICERS, THINGS THAT YOU HAVE NO DATA TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE HELPING TOWARDS ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, YET YOU CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON THEM.

IN MY LINE OF WORK WE HAVE THIS THING CALLED RETURN ON INVESTMENT. IF I CAN'T SHOW RETURN ON INVESTMENT, PROJECT GETS SCRAPPED.

WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, WE DON'T CONTINUE BECAUSE THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY TO CONTINUE DOING THE SAME THING AND HOPING TO GET A DIFFERENT ERUPT.

THERE IS EC BENEFIT TO THAT. SO UNTIL THERE ARE SOME METRICS

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MAYBE SHE WAS THE EXCEPTION BUT SHE WAS PERFORMING AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL AT FISHERS HIGH SCHOOL.

SHE GRADUATED 12TH OUT OF ALMOST 500 STUDENTS.

THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WOULD BE LOOKING FOR IF I HAD A KID IN THIS DISTRICT NOW AND I AM NOT SEEING IT.

IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING AND TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD PASS A BUDGET WITH THINGS IN IT THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE WOULD BE VERY DISAPPOINTING.

>>

>> THANK YOU. THAT CLASS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORKS. SO WE HAVE ANY EXEMPTS OR QWEST FROM THE BOARD? THERE SHALL THERE SHALL.

>> I JUST WONDERED IF YOU CAN ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE

BROUGHT UP? >> YEAH, ARRIVE LIST.

CAN YOU START WITH EXPLAINING MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY SORT OF THE TIMELINE THAT WE'RE UNDER FOR PASSING A BUDGET AND WHAT DATE WE USE FOR THAT AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT THIS TIME?

>> SO INDIANA CODE PROSCRIBES THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH AND THAT'S ENFORCED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT FINANCIALS, SO WE HAVE TO -- WE BEING THE UNIT OF GOVERNMENT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITH TEN DAYS NOTICE. WE HAVE TO HAVE THE BUDGET ADOPTED BEFORE NOVEMBER 1. SO THAT IS NOT UP TO US, THERE IS EC FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT. THAT IS WHAT'S MANDATED TO US THROUGH THE STATE OF INDIANA THROUGH THE INDIANA GENERAL ASSEMBLY. SO --

>> AND WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR -- HOW OFTEN DO WE DO THE BUDGET?

>> WE DO THE BUDGET ANNUALLY. >> THAT'S BASED ON THE ADM

COUNTS. >> FOR THE EDUCATION FUND YES SO WE HAVE A BUDGET PLAN THAT CARRIES MULTIPLE YEARS PLUS OUR HISTORY SO THAT WE'RE UTILIZING THAT, WE'RE UPDATING THAT, WE'RE ACTUALLY UPDATING IT MONTHLY TO SEE HOW WE'RE PERFORMING.

SO WE SET A GOAL, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THIS, BECAUSE WE MAYBE LEASE PAYMENTS TWICE A YEAR SO YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE EBB AND FLOW OF IT.

SAILED I WOULD SAY FROM A DATA PERSPECTIVE THE LINKS -- THE THINGS THAT ARE ONLINE ARE ALSO WHAT IS PROSCRIBED BY THE STATE OF INDIANA. SO THE LINK TO THE GATEWAY, THAT'S THE PUBLIC ACCESS SITE. THAT IS WHAT THE STATE OF INDIANA PROVIDES TO US SO PUBLIC CAN ACCESS IT.

SO WITHIN FIVE DAYS OF ADOPTION WE HAVE TO SUBMIT ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS THAT SHOWS THE BUDGET ESTIMATES AND THE ESTIMATED

HEAVY EVER REFER LEVYIES. >> AND THE GATEWAY IS MANAGED BY THE GATEWAY D THE DL.G.F. GATEWAY.

>> SPEAKING OF TIMELINES THE OPERATIONS -- THE OPERATION BUTT WE JUST RECENTLY HAD A PUBLIC WORK SESSION REGARDING OUR TEN YEAR PLAN AND SO THAT IS HOW WE KEEP TRACK OF BUILDINGS AND SUCH AND YOU WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS.

AND CONTINUING THAT BUDGET TO MAKE SURE WE UTILIZE OUR

DOLLARS. >> SO ITEMS ADVERTISED ARE FOR WHAT IS GOING TO BE PAID FOR OUT OF THE OPERATIONS FUND BUDGET.

THAT IS NOT GENERALLY WHAT IS ON THE TEN YEAR PLAN, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR RENOVATION PROJECTS WHICH 11 WILL COME DO YOU WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE BOND ISSUANCE PROCESS.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH THAT THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION HEARING AND THAT'S NOT DONE THIS WAY.

SO PREVENTION, NEXT YEAR'S MAJOR BUILDING RENOVATIONS THEY'RE NOT IN THIS BUDGET BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE PART OF A BOND PROCEED THAT HASN'T YET BEEN SOLD NOR APPROVED SO THAT'S WHY YOU WOULDABLE SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, FISHERS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RENOVATION BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T BE PART OF THIS ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS. WE DON'T GENERATE ENOUGH OPERATIONAL DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO DO A 16 MILLION-DOLLAR RENOVATION OUT OF AN OPERATIONAL FUND.

I WOULD LIKES TO TOUCH ON REFERENDUM JUST TO REITERATED WE

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WITHOUT THAT THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY WHICH WOULD CREATE A SERIOUS REVENUE ISSUE WITHIN THE EDUCATION FUND, SO THAT IS -- THAT WAS HOW IT WAS COMMUNICATED WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY OBTAINED AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE STUCK TO HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THE ACCOUNTS AND HOW THEY'RE BOOKED, THAT IS DICK INDICATED DICTATED BY THE STATE BOARD OF ACCOUNTS SO THEY HAVE A MANUAL THAT TELLS US ALL THE ACCOUNTS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO USE FOR VARIOUS FUNCTIONS AND ALL THE OBJECT COATS. SO THAT'S NOT SUBJECTIVE.

THE STATE OF INDIANA HAS A TWO YEAR BUDGET SIGNING SO WE CANNOT -- WE PLAN WHAT WE KNOW BUT WE ONLY KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN THE STATE FUNDING FORMULA AND WE DO PROJECT OUT -- WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING A YEAR TO YEAR BUT REVENUE FROM THE STATE COMES TWO YEARS AT A TIME. THE QUESTION ABOUT THE 4.2 MILLION DOLLARS IN EASIER FUNDS GRANT FUNDS ARE NOT PART OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS SO THOSE WOULD NOT BE RELEVANT.

WE HAVE TO PAY IT OUT OF A FUND THAT'S DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR A GRANT, AND THEN IT GETS REIMBURSED INTO THAT FUND AND THOSE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE ANNUALLY BUDGETED, NOR HAVE THEY BEEN AND NOT JUST HERE.

>> KATIE CAN -- AS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THOUGH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TEACHING OR LEARNING OR WHICH PROGRAM DOES IT BUT THE SCHOOL DOES LIST OUT WHERE THAT MONEY GOES, CORRECT?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THE GRANT -- WHOEVER IS FULLING THE PARTICULAR GRANT THEY ARE THE ONES THAT SET OUT THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT'S ELIGIBLE AND GENERALLY IT'S YOUR TEACHING AND LEARNING DEPARTMENT AZURE BIGGEST GENERATOR.

THEY'RE FILLING OUT THE APPLICATIONS --

>> AND THE GRANTS ARE SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW THOSE FUNDS CAN BE

UTILIZED. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

AND IT HAS TO GO INTO THE GRANT FUND, THEY TRACK THOSE SEPARATELY AND THAT'S PART OF OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR AUDITS AND THEY ARE APPROVED THROUGH THE'S THEY'RE ISSUED BUT IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH OUR STATUTORY BUDGET PROCESS.

>> THANK YOU. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HEARD THAT THAT ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT.

AND I HAVE ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT JANET SAID. WHEN WE DO THE TEN YEAR PLAN, THAT'S JUST A PLAN AND THIS IS HAPPEN.

THAT'S WHAT THE NUMBERS WE USE TO MAYBE OUR BUDGET BUT SO OUR

PUBLIC KNOW -- >> THE TEN YEAR PLAN WE DON'T

USE THAT IN THE BUDGET. >> NONE OF IT IS, IT'S ALL BONDS

ONLY. >> ALL OF THE MAJOR BUILDING RENOVATIONS, THAT'S NOT IN OUR BUTT.

BUDGET -- (SPEAKING SIMULTANEOUSLY.)

>> IF THERE'S $23 MILLION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IN ANY GIVEN YEAR ON THE FACILITIES, UPGRADES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THERE MAY BE A FEW DOLLARS THAT -- A FEW PERCENTAGE POINTS OF THAT THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET BUT MOST OF THAT IS IS PAID FOR BY BONDS THAT ARE ISSUED AND THEN --

>> WHICH IS YOU DONE SEE A NEW BUILDING IN THE BUDGET.

>> SO -- >> REPAIR ASKS UPGRADES OR NO?

>> SOME MINOR, SMALL REPAIRS BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT --

>> A COUPLE YEARS, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WHENEVER WE HAD TO BUILD PLEXIGLASS PAR IT IT ISES. SO FEW WHY LOOK AT THE MONEY WE SPENT EVEN THOUGH THE BUDGET IS -- WHATEVER IT WAS, 260 OR 70 MILLION WE SPEND MORE THAN BECAUSE THERE ARE GRANTS THAT WE GET AND WE SPEND THAT ON TOP OF IT AND WE GET THE BONDS THAT ARE ISSUED AND SPEND THAT ON TOP OF THAT.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, AND THE WAY WE UTILIZE THE TEN YEAR PLAN IS THERE'S ACCIDENT ACCIDENT -- INCIDENT TALLS BUT WE HAVE TO BUILD ON SOME LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY SO THAT -- THE CHALLENGE WE'RE HAVING WITH DEER CREEK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME

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WE CAN'T DO THAT. IN THE STATE OF INDIANA WE CANNOT JUST ROLL MONEY, I CAN'T SAY OKAY, WE PERFORMED WELL, WE ONLY SPENT 96 PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET IN ANY GIVEN FUND, IF THAT WERE THE CASE THE FIRST NAME WE WOULD SAY IS WHY IS IT ONLY NINE SINCE,. IT WAS TO BE ENCUMBERED WHICH MEANS THERE HAS TO BE A PURCHASE ORDER ON THE SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE ALREADY TIED TO A VENDOR AND DID GETS PAID OUT IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR SO IT HAS TO BE OBLIGATED AND THAT'S NOT A MANUAL PROCESS. THE ONLY THING THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO DO MANUALLY IS PAYROLL. BUT OTHERWISE YOU HAVE TO DOCUMENT THAT SO WE'RE NOT TAKING -- IF WE'RE OUT PERFORMING AND WE'RE UNDERSPENDING WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT AMOUNT AND MOVING IT INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S NOT LEGAL AND WE DON'T DO THAT AND AND WE'RE NOT HORDING MONEY AND ROLLING IT OVER. AND THE BUDGET IS DESIGNED SO WE'RE ESTIMATING WHAT WE'RE SPENDING AND HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IN IT AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY SPEND.

>> AS I'M SURE EVERYONE'S HEARD AND YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE -- I WENT TO GET MY STRESS RELIEVING BLIZZARD FROM DAIRY SCREEN AND THEY'RE CLOSES. WHO COULD HAVE PROJECTED THAT? WE CAN'T PREDICT WHEN THAT HAPPENS IN SOL CASES SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE IF YOU ARTIFICIALLY MAKE A REDUCTION AND YOU DIDN'T ACCOUNT FOR IF WE HAD BEEN AT STAFFING LEVELS THAT WE'RE USED TO WE WOULD HAVE SPENT MORE, NOW WE HAVE CUT OUR KNOW THOSE TO SPITED OUR OWN FACE BECAUSE WHEN WE RETURN TO NORM WHICH I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE SOMEDAY, NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL TO PROTECT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME STAFFING SHOWER OR STORMS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTORY CORRECTINR UNDERSPENDING.

>> SO THERE IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UNSETTLEMENT FUNDS

CARRIED FORWARD, RIGHT? >> IF THEY ARE THEY ARE ENCUMBERED MEANING THEY HAVE ACCRUED THAT AND THEY HAVE INCURRED A COST IN DECEMBER AND ISSUED A PURCHASE ORDER AND IT'S JUST THE FACT IT'S GOING TO GET PAID OUT THE FOLLOWING YEAR SO I HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE ROLLOVER IS.

BUT IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC, IT'S TIDE SPECIFICALLY TO A PURCHASE.

>> AND I THINK LAST YEAR WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF THE OPPOSITE BECAUSE WE SPENT MORE THAN WE HAD AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CUT COSTS SO -- IF YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR CHOCOLATE AT

DAIRY QUEEN -- >> I KNOW HOW TIPPIEST.

>> YOU CLARIFY OUR TAX TRAIT AND KIND OF HOW THAT SET AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IF WE WERE TO LOWER IT WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN OR HOW IT WOULD AFFECT --

>> I THINK AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT'S ON CARAMEL'S TAX BILL BUT I KNOW FOR US THE BIG GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND THEY'VE MAINTAINED THAT 5898 AND THE DEBT SERVICE, NUMBER ONE SO WHEN WE'RE ISSUING DEBT FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT DRIVES HOW MUCH WE ISSUE, SO IF WE SEE SOME AV. GROWTH WE DO CAPTURE IT WITHIN WHAT WE PLAN TO ISSUE IN DEBT. THE REASON FOR THAT IN MANY CASES, THERE ARE SIMPLY MORE CAPITAL NEEDS IN EVERY CORPORATION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'VE SEEN THAN WE HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO MEET THEM. THAT TEN YEAR PLAN IS NOT COVERING EVERY SINGLE THING THAT WE CAN DO.

IT'S COVERING FRANKLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE THIS BUILDING IS IN ITS 27TH YEAR AND IT NEEDS A RENOVATION.

THE REASON WE HAVE THAT IS A CHALLENGE MORE THAN OTHERS IS THE RATE OF GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENED IN IN DISTRICT, WHEN YOU'RE ADDING NEW BUILDINGS EVERY YEAR YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS? THEY'RE ALL AGING AT THE SAME TIME. SO YOU HAVE A BUNCH THAT HIT THE WALL SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY ON TON OF THAT.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OPERATIONS, OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE SAYING OKAY, LISTEN WE CAN'T GET XY RENOVATION DONE IN 2024 BUT WE

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>> THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT EFFICIENCIES. I DID WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT, MY TIME ON THE BOARD AND EVEN PRIOR AND I ASK YOUR OPINION AS WELL AFTER I GET DONE BUT WE HAVE -- WE'VE INSTALLED SOLAR PANELS AND WE HAVE AN ENERGY MANAGER WHO HAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED OUR ENERGY CONSUMPTION, EVEN THOUGH DUKE RAISED OUR RATES I BELIEVE WE'RE SPENDING LESS MONEY ON ENERGY CONSUMPTION, OF COURSE WE DID LAST YEAR BECAUSE SCHOOL WASN'T OPEN ALL THE TIME.

BUT I WANTED TO ASK YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE FLU TO OUR DISTRICT, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OUR BUDGET AND SEEN THINGS WHERE WE'RE NOT

BEING FIRSTHAND? >> I WOULDN'T SAY WE'RE NOT BEING FIRST AMENDMENT, I THINK THE LEVEL OF GROWTHED THAT GONE ON IN IN DISTRICT HAS MADE THAT THE FOCUS AND SO THERE ARE SOME PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES THAT WE NEED IN PLACE TO MAKE US OPERATE FROM A PEOPLE PERSPECTIVE MORE EFFICIENTLY.

AND UTILIZE THE TOOLS WE HAVE. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD SOFTWARE CONVERSION THAT HAPPENED IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC.

THAT CERTAINLY INHIBITS YOUR ABILITY TO HAVE GROUP DRAINING SO THERE ARE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO MAKE OURSELVES MORE EFFICIENT TO SEE IS THERE A STAFFING NEED FROM A NONCLASSROOM FACTOR THAT IS ABOUT -- IS IT ABOUT THE PROCESS OR IS IT ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT IT'S PUSHING NORTH N TERMS OF THE WORKFLOW.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. TODAY WE MET WITH SPEND BRIDGE WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION THALLUSES YOUR SPEND FOR PROJECTS ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THOSE OF YOU YO MAY HAVE SEEN A PRESS WITH THEM AT ISBA THEY PRESENTED AT OUR REGIONAL MEETINGS AND THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE IS WHERE WE CAN LEVERAGE MORE THAN WE ARE NOW.

SO WE'RE STARRING THAT PROCESS WITH THEM.

SO I THINK WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES, THEY DETERMINEED THAT IT WAS LESS EXPENSIVE TO CONTRACT WITH A THIRD PARTY TO DO THE EVENING MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDINGS. WE HAVE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FISHERS. THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THEM TO DO ALL OF OUR SNOW REMOVAL AS WELL AS OUR GROUNDS MAINTENANCE, THEY ARE SPENDING MORE THAN WE'RE PAYING THEM FOR THE SERVICE AND AT THE TIME I BELIEVE THEY ESTIMATED IT WOULD COST US 2 MILLION-DOLLAR TO OPERATE THAT AND WE'RE PAYING SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT BY WORKING WITH THE CITY.

THEY'RE WORKING WITH US ON THOSE THINGS SO IT'S KIND OF A VALUE ADD. SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS WE'RE DOING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T DOING THAT WE'RE DOING: I THINK WE'RE ALLS LOOKING ALWAYS LOOKING AT IT BUT THERE'S BEEN A

LOT GOING ON THE LAST TWO YEARS. >> ASK WHEN WE STARTED BUILDING ALL THE SCHOOLS I CAME HERE WHEN THE FIRST ONE WAS BUILT OUR DISTRICT LOOKED AT THE MAXIMUM SIZE OF AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

HOW LARGE CAN IT BE WHERE YOU ONLY NEED ONE MUSIC TEACHER, ONE ART TEACHER AND WE HAVE MAXIMIZED OUR SCHOOL SOSES EVERY ONE OF OUR SCHOOLS IS BUILT TO MAXIMIZE FIXER EFFICIENCY, BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT'S BEEN DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS AND A LOT MORE THAT CAN BE DONE OBVIOUSLY BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT.

THANK YOU. >> I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOU. BUT IF DR. STOKES OR ANYBODY FROM TEACHING AND LEARNING WANT TO --

>> IT'S DR. KEGLY. >> I THINK THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE PANORAMA SHUSH V.A. AND I'M PERSONALLY PROUD OF THE WORKBOOK WE'VE DONE THROUGH THE CITY TO HELP SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS AND SO I'VE SEEN THAT DATA ON KIND OF HOW THAT

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SO IF A STUDENT FEELS SAFE AND CARED FOR THEY'RE GOING TO LEARN BETTER DURING THE DAY. BUT COULD YOU COMMENT ON THAT AND HOW WHAT DATA WE HAVE AND WHERE PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE THE

FIND THAT? >> IN THE PAST WE HAVE DONE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO PRESENT THAT DATA.

IT'S BEEN DONE IN BOARD MEETINGS AS A PRESENTATION.

I THINK BROOK LAWSON HAS LED THAT EFFORT.

IT'S ALSO BEEN INCLUDED IN BOARD UPDATES IN THE PAST.

AFTER THIS ROUND HERE IN THE FALL WE OR WE COULD WAIT UNTIL ASPIRIN, WE COULD LOOK AT AND AT THE BOARD'S REQUEST HAVE A PRESENTATION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT DATA AND EVEN POST IT TO

OUR WEBSITE. >> THE COMMENT I CAN MAYBE ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTSES, I'VE OFTEN SAID THAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT IS TO SUPPORT ALL THE ASSUME THAT ENROLL IN OUR DISTRICT AND WE HAVE STUDENTS WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO NEED MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORTS. WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO SOMETIMES -- IT PAINS ME TO SAY IT HAVE SUICIDE IDEATION OR STUDENTS WHO HAVE OTHER ISSUE THAT ARE GOING ON AND AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT IF WE TRULY WANT TO HAVE ACADEMIC OUTCOMES WE HAVE TO FIRST ADDRESS SOME OF THESE MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS.

SO I DON'T WANT US TO SHORTCHANGE THE EFFORTS AND THE SUPPORTS THAT WE PROVIDE FOR NOT ONLY OUR STUDENTS, BUT SOME OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WITH REGARDS TO THEIR MENTAL HEALTH.

AANY GIVEN TIME IT COULD BE ANY OF US THAT NEED SUPPORT.

SO WE DO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH COUNCILORS AND WE DO HAVE DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO MAKING SURE THAT WE SUPPORT OUR CHILDREN ALL OF OUR CHILDREN AND ALL PASS ETS THAT WE'LL IMPACT THEIR ACTICS. SO WHILE WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE WE DO SUPPORT THEM IN OUR DISTRICT BECAUSE OUR KIDS HAVE TO BE WELL ROUNDED IN ORDER TO HAVE ACADEMIC OUTCOMES THAT ARE POSITIVE AND IF YOU'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH MENTAL HEALTH OR WHAT HAVE YOU THEN WE DO HAVE TO SUPPORT YOU. NO LESS THAN WE WOULD DISCOUNT FEEDING A CHILD WHO'S WITH US SIX PLUS HOURS A DAY.

SO I WANT TO SAY THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO SUPPORT.

>> JUST THERE WAS A QUESTION RAISED ABOUT THE ELI LILY GRANT.

WEWERE WE THERE THAT LAST YEAR JULES.

>> YES, SIR, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ALLOCATE ALL OF OUR FUNDS. LAST YEAR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE END OF THE YEAR FOUR SO WE ASKED FOR AN EXTENSION, 50 YEARSES CERTAINLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALLOCATE THE REST OF THE GRANT,

SO YES THIS IS THE LAST YEAR. >> HOW MUCH DOES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO A YEAR TO COVER EXPENSES THAT.

>> I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

>> THE ELI LILY GRANT, WE GET MONEY EACH YEAR FROM THAT.

HOW MUCH MONEY IS THAT THAT WE'RE GETTING IN THIS YEAR

>> WE DON'T GET AN ALLOCATION EACH YEAR, WE HAD AN INITIAL ALLOCATION WHEN THE GRANT WAS AWARDED.

>> HOW MUCH WAS THAT. >> IT PREDATED ME.

I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> AT LEAST 2 MILLION, I THINK. IT WAS TEN TIMES MORE THAN ANY

OTHER GRANT WE HAD GOTTEN. >> DID WE SPEND A THAT YOU ALL .

>> NO, THERE'S A YEARLY BUDGET FROM THE TIME WE GOT THE

MONEY -- >> THE ITEM THAT IS WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS YEAR WITH THAT MONEY, THOSE WILL HAVE TO FIND A NEW SOURCE OF MONEY TO PAY FOR THOSE NEXT YEAR?

>> THIS THEY WERE TO CONTINUE, YES.

>> MR. BOYAR JUST WANT TO ADD WITH THE ELI LILY GRANT, THAT WAS A MULTIYEAR AND THEY HAD A REQUIREMENT ABOUT PHASING.

SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS DR. KEGLY, HIS EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AND ALL HIS AREAS WE HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME THINGS ARE BUILT AS TEMPORARY TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON SOMETHING LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH COVID AND SOME IMPACTSES THAT IT'S HAD AND WE SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO PLAN FOR THAT WE MAY WANT TO IMPLEMENT LONGER TERM BUT THEY ARE NOT IN ANY WAY PUTTING RECURRENT EXPENDITURES INTO ONE TIME GRANT MONEY, THAT IS NOT HAPPENING HERE.

SO WE ARE PLANNING THROUGH THAT AND OBVIOUSLY AT AT THE END OF E DAY THAT ALL BECOMES PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH DR. STOKES AS

WELL. >> WITH ONE THING IMED TO SAY

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>> LET'S SEE. WE HAVE HAD ONLY OUR SECOND ROUND OF TESTING BUT WE MISSED LAST YEAR SO HELP MATT --

>> 19 WAS THE FIRST TEST SO THE ASPIRIN --

>>> AND IS IT FAIR TO SAY EVERY DISTRICT'S TEST SCORE WENT DOWN? IF YOU COMPARE THE 2017 TEST SCORES WITH THEIR 2018 TEST SCORES WE HAD I I STEP AND I LEARN, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

TESTS -- >> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH THE NEW ASSESSMENT WAS THERE A DROP ACROSS THE STATE AND THAT WOULD BE A YES BUT I THINK THE YEAR THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED WOULD BE BEFORE I LEARN, BUT WITH THE I LEARN THERE WAS A DROP ACROSS THE STATE.

>> WE WEREN'T AT FOUR CIRCUMSTANCES PERCENT WITH

I-STEP. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THE PERCENT IS IMPORTANT BUT I THINK PROBABLY THE EXEMPT THAT WAS MAKING WAS THE SPREAD BETWEEN SCHOOLS AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER

THAT JUST -- >> I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENTIALITY THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. YES.

>> THERE WAS A QUESTION MADE ABOUT PANORAMA SURVEYS.

IT'S MINE THAT THOSE CAME IN WITH THE ELI LILY GRANT.

>> 2018? >> THAT'S CORRECT?

>> ASPIRIN SPRING OF 2019, YES. >> SO THOSE ARE ONE OF THE THINGS -- SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MAY COME TO AN END AT THE END OF THIS YEAR? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A

REOCCURRING I'M AS YOU SAID -- >> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND I SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT OUR -- STUDENTS DON'T LEARN IN THEY DON'T FEEL SAFE, RECEIVE ACCEPTED -- AND I WAS AT THE SUPERINTENDENT'S STUDENT ADVISORY GROUP MEETING THE OTHER DAY WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SENSE OF BELONGING AND COMMENT WERE MADE BY STUDENTS SAYING IF I KNOW THAT THE TEACHER CARES ABOUT ME I DO BETTER IN THAT CLASS AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY POWERFUL FOR A STUDENT TO RECOGNIZE BUT I BELIEVER OUR METH METH SUPPORTS ARE -- WE'RE KIND OF A MODEL IN THE STATE -- I KNOW WE KIND OF LID THE CHARGE ON THAT AND I THINK OUR METH SUPPORTS -- NOT ALL KIDS ARE 12TH IN THEIR CLASS, A LOT OF KIDS HAVE ISSUES THEY NEED TO WORK THROUGH AND I WILL YIELD MY TIME.

> YEAH, I DON'T DISAGREE ONE BIT THAT WE HAVE TO MAYBE KIDS FEEL SAFE IN THE CLASSROOM SO THEN LEARN.

AND I DON'T WANT THAT TIED TO THE PANORAMA SURVEY COMMENT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S ALL UP TO THE TEACHERS: I THINK THAT TEACHERS ARE INCREDIBLE INDIVIDUALS AND THEY KNOW HOW TO TEACH. THEY KNOW THOUSAND TO GET INVESTED IN THEIR KIDS' LIVES. THEY KNOW HOW TO GET TO KNOW THEIR KIDS AND MAYBE THEM FEEL SAFE AND COMFORTABLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE -- WHY WE HAVE THE TEACHERS WE DO.

SO DISH. >> AND I THINK THE PANORAMA HELP MEASURE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S HARD THE MEASURE IS HOW DO THEY FEEL BUT MY QUESTION -- AND IT MIGHT BE FOR YOU JEFF, I'M SORRY, THERE WAS THE PANORAMA PARENT NIGHT LAST NIGHT. IS THAT RECORDING AVAILABLE?

>> YES, IT'S ON THE WEBSITE. >> SO OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ABOUT IT IF YOU MESSED THE WEBINAR DEFT

COLLECT IT OUT ON THE WEBSITE. >> THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I DO HAVE QUICK ONE.

KATIE WITH OUR INCREASED AV. AND YOU KNOW OUR POPULATION GROWTH HOW MUCH OF THAT ACTUALLY INCREASED OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR?

>> SO YOU'RE ASKING WITHOUT INCREASED AV. HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE DID THAT GENERATE ACROSS ALL FUNDS THIS

YEAR? >> WITH THE 23 MILLION-DOLLAR REFERENDUM FUND, SO CONTINUING THE GROWTH, I MEAN ARE WE

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HOW MUCH GROWTH HAS THAT ADDED? >> IT'S LIMITED BY THE STATE, BY THE 4.3 PERCENT IN TOLD IN TERMS OF THE AV., HOW MUCH GROWTH YOU CAN HAVE WITHIN YOUR BUTT. THE EXACT AMOUNT HONESTLY I WOULD HAVE TO CALCULATE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER REFERENDUM DOESN'T -- REFERENDUM AA, ASSESSED VALUE IS NOT INCLUDING THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCIALS DISTRICTS WHEREAS THE OTHERS ARE. SO TO BE FAIR I CAN'T GIVE IT TO YOU EXACTLY BUT YOU CAN SEE GENERALLY WHEN YOU SEE THE EXPENDITURES MOST OF THAT WOULD BE ACONTRIBUTABLE TO ADDITIONAL

TAX REVENUE. >> THANK YOU.

>> I MAY NOT HAVE UNDERSTOOD YOUR QUESTION SO YOU'RE WEATHER

CHANNELING TO KNOW OF THE -- >> I'M JUST SAY WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE SO OUR AV INCREASE I'M CURIOUS HOW MUCH THAT ADDED TO

OUR BUDGET IN YEAR. >> NOT JUST IN THE REFERENDUM

MONEY BUT ACROSS THE BOARD. >> THAT MONEY HAS INCREASED AS ASSESSED VALUATION HAS GONE UP. I BELIEVE IT STARTED OUT AT 18 MILLION, MAYBE, OR MAYBE LESS THAN THAT, BUT IT HAS GONE UP.

AND ONE MORE THING, CONSIDERABLE ALLOCATION FOR LEGAL AND CONSULTANT FEES. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT?

>> LEGAL FEES COME IN THE FORM OF FOR MANY REASONS.

FOR EXAMPLE WHEN OUR CITIZENS WHICH YOU DEFINITELY HAVE THE RIGHT HAVE LAWYER REQUESTS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE TO HAVE ATTORNEYS LOOK AT THOSE REQUESTS WE CAN'T JUST GIVE YOU INFORMATION. THAT'S A LEGAL COST, SO THERE ARE LEGAL FEES FOR VARIOUS THINGS.

IF WE HAVE PARENTS WHO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT SOMETHING OR IF THEY SAY THEY HAVE A LAWYER WE HAVE TO -- IF YOU SAY LAWYER WE HAVE TO GET OUR LAWYERS INVOLVED SO THERE ARE SOME LEGAL COSTS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO LAND ACQUISITIONS THEY DO RARE LEGAL

COUNSEL. >> I WOULD JUST REITERATE IT'S ESSENTIALLY A CORPORATION WITH 250 MILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET AND WE'RE GOING TO INCUR LEGAL FEES MAINTAINING THAT CORPORATION, I THINK THAT'S INEVITABLE. AND THEN THE MORE WE GROW THE MORE ISSUES COME UP AND I WOULD RATHER SPEND MAYBE YOU TAKE THIS AS A GRAIN OF SALT FROM A LAWYER BUT I WOULD RATHER SPEND A SMALLER AMOUNT OF MONEY ON A LAWYER THAN DEFENDING A LAWSUIT AND PAYING OUT DAMAGES SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER DOWN THE

ROAD. >> AND EVERY CONTRACT THAT WE ENTER INTO, A LAWYER HAS TO LOOK AT IT.

>> YES, WE CAN'T JUST HAVE THE BOARD OR ADMINISTRATOR SIGNING CONTRACTS THAT GIVING OVER LAND OR BUYING THIS OR SIGNING THAT WITHOUT -- LAWYER JUST COME WITH THE COST OF RUN AN ORGANIZATION, EVEN SMALLER ONES CAN HAVE SIMILAR COSTS AT A SMALLER LEVEL BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE FOUR BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF THE NUMBER

THAT WE HAVE BUT JUST -- >> I WOULD LOVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW ALL OF THIS IN THE COMMUNITY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAYBE THOUGH COSTS WE SPEND ON LAWYERS SMALLER.

>> MM-HMM. >> BECAUSE EVERY COLLECT WE SEND TO AN ATTORNEY IS PAINFUL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT FOR LESS MONEY BUT IT JUST IS WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING A CORPORATION, THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH MONEY SPENT ON ATTORNEYS' FEES. IT'S A NECESSARY EVIL.

>> OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS COMMENTS I'LL CLOSE THIS PORTION.

AND MOVING ON TO OUR REDRAWING BOUNDARY LINES UPDATE FROM KIM LIPPY AND KATIE DOWELING. WELCOME BACK TO THE PODIUM KATIE. AND GOOD EVENING, KIM.

>> GOOD EVENING. SO WE HAVE A QUICK UPDATE FOR YOU AND SORRY THERE WAS NO PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

BUT YOU KNOW, JUST TO REITERATE WITH THE OPENING OF DEER CREEK AND AS WE ALL KNOW IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO REDEFINE BOUNDARY LINES AND IT AGAIN, IT'S OUR HOPE THAT THIS PROCESS WILL HAVE A MINIMUM IMPACT ON OUR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. AND WITH THE OPENING OF DEER CREEK, WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY FROM UNDER BIN AND THEN ALSO ALLEVIATE 069 OVER CROWDING AT SOUTHEASTERN. WE EVER EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING FOR OCTOBER 26 AT 6 P.M. AT SOUTHEASTERN HIGH SCHOOL IN THE MAIN CAFE, A SKY ALERT WILL BE SPENT AFTER THE CONCLUSION OF THE BOARD MEETING

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WE'RE STILL CONSIDERING OPTIONS AND AS WE GATHER -- CONTINUE TO GATHER SOME STUDENT DEMOGRAPHIC DATA WE WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH MCCAN I BE BONN AND WE'LL RECEIVE FEEDBACK ON THAT DATA. SO KATIE DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK

MORE ABOUT THAT PROCESS? >> SO COMMITTEE HAS OVER AND ABOVED THROUGH THE NEARS LIKE WE DISCUSSED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS BUT TRYING THE KEEP THE GOALS THAT KIM SPOKE OF ABOUT WHAT THE PURPOSE IS HERE TOOTH DEER CREEK AND TO ALLEVIATE THE STUDENT COUNT AT SOUTHEASTERN, SO WE HAVE VIA MR. HARRISON HE HAS TO PULL OUT THE DATA SO WE CAN COMPILE THAT AND IT HAS ALL THE NORMAL DEMOGRAPHIC DATA WE REPORT IF A SCHOOL BUILDING. AND THEN THAT DATA WE WILL BE SENDING TO DR. MT. BACHELOR CAN I BE BONN TO EVALUATE AGAINST OUR 1920 DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY. DEMOGRAPHIC STUDIES ARE NORMALLY DONE AFTER YOU HAVE CENSUS DATA. AS THE GENTLEMAN SAID EARLIER WE DON'T HAVE CENSUS DATA JET AND FRANKLY DEMOGRAPHERS ARE CONCERN ED. THEY SAID YOU DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL THAT'S DONE, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO IDENTIFY SOME DATA SETS THAT CAN VALIDATE OR INVALIDATE CENSUS DATA THE MAKE SURE YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE RIGHT INFORMATION SEVEN. SO THAT WILL PARENT INTO THIS AS WELL. SO WHAT WE'VE OPTED NOT TO DO IS USE A CONSULTANTS FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT DISTRICT WIDE.

WE ARE USING DR. MCKIBBON TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON TRACK AND

THAT IS HIS SPECIALTY. >> ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENT FROM

THE BOARD? >> AT THAT OCTOBER 26 MEETING, WILL YOU HAVE A PLAN OR JUST LIKE HERE'S A --

>> OPTIONINGS OF BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS?

>> YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE THE SHARE OPTIONS AND GATHER COMMUNITY INPUT. AND ALL OTHER UPDATES THAT WE HAVE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER THE HAPPENINGS TAB SO AS WE CONTINUE IN THIS PROCESS THAT'S WHERE UPDATES CAN BE FOUND.

>> CADY DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MCKIBBONN DO IT AFTER THE CENSUS SO YOU'LL HAVE OTHER MEETINGS BUT THEN MCKIBBONN WON'T DO THEIR INPUT UNTIL AFTER THE CENSUS -- CENSU.

>> NO THE CENSUS DATA IS ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO UP YOURSELF AS A DISTRICT. WE JUST DID ONE IN 192020 SO HE'S EVALUATING -- HE'S UPDATING IF YOU WILL OUR EXISTING STUDY WITH OUR FALL COUNT DATA AND THEN UTILIZING THAT STUDY UPDATE WITH THE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE TO SEE IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF GROWTH. WE'RE NOT DOING A FULL UPDATE YET: I THINK THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE DISCUSS WITH THE CENSUS DATA. HIS OPINION HAS CONTINUED TO BE -- AND YOU REMEMBER THAT IS WHERE WE OPTED AS COMMITTEE A FULL-ON REDISTRICTING, PROBABLY WASN'T A GOOD IDEA FOR US NOW.

WE NATIONWIDE THAT EXISTING HOME TURNOVER TO NORMALIZE OUT AND THAT'S HIS RECOMMENDATION IS LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE SEE THAT GO UP TO WHERE WE EXPECT IT TO BE AND THAT'S THE BEST TIME TO UPDATE AND DO A NEW DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY.

>> AND I ASK THIS BECAUSE I MEAN, IF WE'RE REDISTRICTING FOR THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND I KNOW OVER THE YEAR WE'VE LOST SOME STUDENTS, WE HAVE GAINED SOME STUDENTS.

PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN, PEOPLE HAVE MOVED OUT AND SO ANY QUESTION TO THAT IS DO WE GET THE -- DO WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION OF NOT JUST -- HOW DO WE KNOW IT'S ELEMENTARY OR HAS IT BEEN INTERMEDIATE OR HIGH SCHOOL.

DO THEY TAKE THAT INFORMATION FOR THAT ELEMENTARY THERE? SO ARE WE GOING TO -- MY THOUGHT IS I CAN'T GET THE WORDS OUT WHAT I'M TRYING THE SAY. SO WITH DEER CREEK WE'RE FUTURE FORECASTING ON JUST THAT AREA BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT COULD HAVE AFFECTS ON THE OTHER ELEMENTARIES, YES, POSSIBLY,

CORRECT? >> YOU MEAN THE REDISTRICTING

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>> BOTH. SO MY THOUGHT IS THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT FEELS WHY ARE WE NOT TAKING THE KIDS FROM UNDER BIN AND PUTTING THEM IN DEER CREEK UNTIL WE HAVE THE INFORMATION TO WHERE WE'RE GOING BEFORE WE MAYBE THOSE CHAINS.

>> BECAUSE SOUTHEASTERN ELEMENTARY IS 200 STUDENTS OVER CAPACITY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT JUST LIMBING IT TO UNDER BIN OPENING SO WE'RE GETTING THEM TO A LEVEL TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH BUT THEY'RE NOT OVER CAPACITY THE LEVEL THAT SOUTHEASTERN IS RIGHT NOW.

>> SO REDISTRICTING IS JUST PULLING SOME OF THESE FROM

SOUTHEASTERN TO DEER CREEK. >> THAT WAS OUR GOAL AS WE WERE EVALUATING OPTIONS. NOT WANTING TO MOVE KIDS INTO A BUILDING THAT MIGHT HAVE CAPACITY EDUCATIONAL WHERE AND TURNING AROUND AND DOING IT GONE IN TWO YEARS BECAUSE OUR DATA IS A LITTLE ROCKY BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC AND THE IMPACT IT'S HAD

ON THE MARKET ITSELF. >> SO WE'RE TRYING THE MOVE THE FEWEST NUMBER OF STUDENTS NOW BECAUSE IN TWO YEARS WE MAY HAVE TO DO A BIGGER REDISTRICTING IS SO THE LESS STUDENTS WITH MOVE NOW THE LESS STUDENTS HAVE TO MOVE AGAIN IN TWO YEARS.

>> I DON'T -- I MAY HAVE -- IN MAY BE AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THE OPTIONS IS EQUIVALENT TO MOVING UNDER BIN INTO DEER CREEK AND THEN BUSING 200 KIDS FROM SOUTHEASTERN TO DEER CREEK SO WE FILL UP DEER CREEK AND ALLEVIATE

SOUTHEASTERN'S OVERPOPULATION. >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

S THAT A BARE BONES -- WE WOULDN'T BE PHYSICALLY TAKING THEM FROM SOUTHEASTERN BUT YES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE.

>> I MEAN BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS LINE AND MOVING THIS -- I GET -- IT OVERWHELMS ME SO IT'S SIMPLER TO THINK ABOUT MOVING THIS SCHOOL INTO HERE AND MOVING THIS POPULATION INTO HERE AND NOW WE HAVE A FULL SCHOOL AND WE DON'T

HAVE ANYTHING OVER CROWDED. >> AND WE DON'T START OUT AT CAPACITY. SO WE WON'T START THE SCHOOL OUT AT 100 PERCENT CAPACITY.

>>> TRYING TO DO A CENSUS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC IS WHAT THE DIFFICULTY WAS AND THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE HOLED UP IN THEIR HOMES SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE DELAYED ON

THIS. >> AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PLANNING PROCESS I MEAN WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THE PUBLIC THAT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST -- DEER CREEK AND SOUTHEASTERN COMMUNITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

IS THERE A CHANCE THAT'S GOING TO MOVE INTO ANY OTHER ELEMENTARY LINES THAT WE CAN THINK OF?

>> I DON'T THINK WE'VE SAID ONLY THOSE.

I THINK THE GOALS WERE THOSE TWO.

DEER CREEK NATIONWIDE TOSS OPEN. WE NEED TO ADDRESS 900 STUDENTS AT SOUTHEASTERN, SO LET'S START THERE.

SOME OF THE SCENARIOS WE'VE LOOKED AT AND SAID WE DON'T THINK THAT'S FEASIBLE BECAUSE WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OKAY NOW WE'RE DROP THING BUILDING TOO LOW.

SO IF WE DO IS THAT NOW WE'VE TO MOVE STUDENTS FROM HERE AND NOW YOU'RE UPSETTING THE APPLE CART MORE.

SO I WOULD SAYON THAT'S SOLID YET BUZZ WE'RE NOT THERE BUT WE

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>> THANK YOU. AND MOST OF THAT WILL COME UP IN THAT OCTOBER 26 MEETING TO HAVE OPTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC AND TAKE

IN THEIR INPUT, CORRECT? >> YES.

>> THANK YOU. IT'S AN INTERESTING PROCESS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR GROWTH EVERYWHERE THERE IS GROWTH SO WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THIS SCHOOL IF THESE ARE THE BOUNDARIES BUT THERE'S THIS 50 ACRES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A HUGE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THEN YOU HAVE TO PLAN FOR SOME GROWTH THERE SO THE LAND LOCKED SCHOOLS NOW ARE ON ON THE WEST SIDE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT TURNOVER OF HOUSES.

THERE ARE COMPLICATE STUFF. >> BEING SOMEONE IN FALL CREEK TOWNSHIP I KNOW THERE'S GROWTH THAT WAY TOO AND THAT PULLS OTHER INTO SOUTHEASTERN SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. IS THAT IT FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE BOARD? I DO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.

SHANNON FIELDS. >> OKAY, HI AGAIN, REGARDING THE PORTION OF POLICY RELATING TO CONSENT PARTICIPATION.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE REVISED POLICY REQUIRE THAT ALL

COMMUNICATIONS -- >> MS. FIELDS I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOU HAD A 6.02, THE REDRAWING OF THE BOUNDARY LINES.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT POLICY? >> I THOUGHT YOU -- OH SORRY.

>>IVELY CALL YOU BACK UP FOR THAT.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO YES.

WE ARE ON TO POLICY. >> AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR NAVIGATING POLICY FOR ME. SO TONIGHT IT LOOKS OVERWHELMING BUT I THINK THIS SHOULD BE RELATIVELY EASY TO GET THROUGH THIS EVENING. SO IT DOES LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT. SO I'LL START OFF WITH I-05.02, ACCESS TO MATERIALS AND SO JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORIES WE HAD SOME REVISION THAT WERE REQUESTED FROM A PRIOR BOARD MEETING. SO WE'RE BRING THING POLICY BACK, IT WAS SENT BACK FOR REVISIONSES SO THIS POLICY DOES HAVE A NEW TITLE. SO AGAIN ACCESS TO TRANSACTIONAL MATERIAL AND SURVEYS. CONTINUE FOR PARTICIPATION.

AND THIS WAS CHAINED FROM ACCESS TO MATERIALS RELATING TO PERSONAL ANALYSIS, EVALUATION OR SURVEY OF STUDENTS.

CONSENT FOR PARTICIPATION. ONCE APPROVED BY THE BOARD THE INDIANA CODE WILL BE UPDATED TO REFLECTED THE LAW AND THE LEGAL CITATION INCLUDED WAS OUTDATED AND SIMPLY WAS JUST A COPY PASTE OF FORMER INDIANA CODE. SO FOR EXAMPLE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS POLICY AS JEFF HAS PROJECTED IN THE LIST FROM A TO H, THAT LANGUAGE NOW ALIGNS WITH FEDERAL LANGUAGE.

IT'S NOW MORE READER FRIENDLY AND IT'S UP-TO-DATE.

WE HAVE INCLUDED PARENT OR GUARDIAN THROUGHOUT THIS POLICY AND THE DATES THAT APPEAR AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POLICY HAVE BEEN DELETEDDED AS THEY APPEAR IN THE POLICY HEADING SECTION.

SO THAT IS I 05.02. AND THEN MOVING ON TO I 01.00, THIS IS UNDER CURRICULUM. WE HAVE A NEW TITLE FOR THIS POLICY. SO WE ARE COMBINING THIS POLICY WITH I 02.01, CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT.

I 04.00, ASSESSMENT OF CURRICULUM.

WHILE RESIMILARRING 03.00. SO AGAIN, I 01.00 IS CAR CURRICM EQUIPMENT IMPLEMENTATION AND ASSESSMENT, THAT'S THE NEW TITLE OF THIS POLICY. THE A COMBINATION OF OTHERS THAT WE'RE COMBINING WITH IT. AND THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY JUST TITLED CURRICULUM. AND THIS POLICY, FOR EXAMPLE, I

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SO AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL OF THESE POLICIES -- SO JEFF, IF YOU CAN SCROLL TO THAT. ACTUALLY, IF YOU CAN SCROLL TO THE CURRICULUM POLICIES AND THERE'S A LIST OF POLICIES THAT ARE GOING TO BE RESCINDED JUST SO PEOPLE CAN SEE A LIST OF THOSE. IT'S A SEPARATE -- YEAH, THERE'S A SEPARATE ATTACHMENT. IT'S THE NEXT ONE.

YEAH -- SO ON POLICIES THAT I HE IS PROJECTING NOW THESE ARE THE POLICIES THAT ARE BEING COMBINED INTO I 01.00 CURRICULUM.

AND THE REASON WE CHANGED TO THE NAME TO ENCOMPASS WHAT WE'RE COMBINING FROM THE OTHER POLICIES BEING CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT, IMPLEMENTATION AND ASSESSMENT.

SO THEN MOVING ON, OUR NEXT POLICY IS I 09.00.

ANIMALS IN CLASSROOMS. AND THIS -- YES?

>> YES, YOU CAN. >> THOSE ARE THERAPEUTIC.

>> THERE ARE ONLY TWO TYPES OF SERVICE ANIMALS, A DOG AND A MINIATURE HORSE. SO ON THIS POLICY, THE NEW TIME WILL BE ANIMALS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY.

THIS POLICY IS BEING COMBINED WITH I 09.01, WHICH IS ANIMALS IN A CLASSROOM. AND THAT'S BEING RESCINDED BUT AGAIN, WE'RE COMBINING IT WITH J 05.10.

SO WE'RE TRYING THE STREAMLINE POLICY.

SO AS FOLKS LISTEN TO THIS WE HAVE WELL OVER 200 POLICIES AND OUR GOAL IS TO REACH AROUND 80 TO 90 POLICIES, AND SO WE ARE CCAA IS HELPING US WORK THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

BUT AGAIN WE'RE RESCINDING BUT COMBINING INTO EXISTING POLICY.

SO THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING IS WITH THIS ONE IS TO HAVE ONE POLICY THAT ADDRESSES ANIMALS ON SCHOOL PROPERTY AND IN THIS POLICY WE KEPT THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A COMPANION ANIMAL AND SERVICE IS. THIS POLICY THEN LET US TO COMBINE THE PROCEDURES, WHICH HAVE THE SAME NUMBERS.

AND SO WE HAVE ALSO -- THE PROCEDURE THAT'S DEFINED UNDER J 05.1018S ON SCHOOL PROPERTY, WE'RE GOING TO DELETE AND COMBINE THE PROCEDURE FOR .01, WITH THE .010 PROCEDURE.

SO WE'VE STREAMLINED IN ESSENCE THE POLICY AND WE'VE STREAMLINED THE PROCEDURE OF HOW WE GO ABOUT PROCEEDING WITH A SERVICE ANIMAL OR HAVING ANIMALS IN THE CLASSROOM FOR CURRICULUM PURPOSES. AND JUST TO REMIND EVERYONE THIS IS ALSO A FIRST READS SO IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED TO GATHER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO.

>> HOW DID MINIATURE HORSE MAKE IT ON IS THERE.

>> THOSE ARE SUPER THERAPEUTIC. >> IT'S JUST THE LAW.

IT'S DEFINED AS A SERVICE ANIMAL.

AND I APOLOGIZE FOR GIGGLING, WE WERE LAUGHING ABOUT THE ONE POLICY THAT WAS LAST REVIEWED IN 2005.

I'M NOT SURE WHO WAS ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME.

BUT IT'S LITERALLY ONE SENTENCE AND MEANS NOTHING SO I'M GLAD WE'RE UPDATING THIS TO UPDATE THESE BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM ARE QUITE OLD AND TAKEN -- WE HAVE A LOT SO THAT'S WHY IT'S TAKEN SO LONG. I KNOW THE MIGHT BE MAY ASK WHY HAVEN'T WE LOOKED A T THIS IN SO LONG BUT THERE ARE SO MANY POLICIES AND THE POLICY COMMITTEE WITH ONLY REVIEW FIVE TO SEVEN PER MONTH AND THEN IS THAT I COME IN FOR FIRST READ AND SECOND READ. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK BAA YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE DOING THE WORK TO PREP THEM FOR THE

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COMMITTEE. >>LY SAY WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT ABOUT STREAMLINING THE POLICIES IS THAT AS ADMINISTRATORS WHEN THE ADMINISTRATORS ARE TRYING TO SUPPORT AND IMPLEMENTS THE PROCEDURES REGARDING A POLICY IT'S EASIER TO HAVE THAT ONE CONVERSATION UNDER ONE POLICY INFORMATION THAN TRYING THE JUMP AROUND TO FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT POLICIES SO IT'S EASIER FOR US

TO STREAMLINE PROCEDURES. >> I DO WANT TO TONIGHT AND THANK JENNIFER HARRISON AND THE TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT AS HE CONTINUES TO WORK ON PROCEDURES FOR PREVIOUS POLICY THAT WE HAVE APPROVED REGARDING TECHNOLOGY, SO WE'LL SOON HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THE POLICY COMMITTEE ON THOSE PROCEDURES.

>> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A COMMENT TO MAKE ON ON I 05.02, IS IT TIME OR DO THEY TALK AND THEN I --

>> YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND I'LL CALL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER

THIS. >> SO THE ORIGINAL READ SAID A STUDENT HALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATING IN A PERSONAL ANALYSIS OR SURVEY THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO ACADEMIC INSTRUCTION AND THAT REVEALS OUR ATTEMPTS TO AFFECT THE STUDENT IS ABILITIES, HABITS, TRAITSEN OPINIONS BELIEFS OR FEELINGS.

AND SO IN REREADING IT IS THERE -- I WOULD LIKE TO -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A MOTION OR A SUGGESTION BUT I WANT THE BOARD TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE IT IS A FIRST READ TO DISCUSS OR THINK ABOUT THAT. ONE PART OF THAT SENTENCE IS THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS A STUDENT SHALL -- WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON OUR DRAFT, IT SAYS THE SCHOOL BOARD RESPECT IT IS PRIVACY RIGHTS OF PARENTS AND THEIR E-CHILDREN, THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY NO STUDENT SHALL BE REQUIRED AND MY COMMENT IS I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE IN THERE THAT IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO ACADEMIC INSTRUCTION. BUT IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS IN HERE THAT OUR SURVEYS AND MATERIALS SHOULD BE RELATED TO ACADEMIC INSTRUCTION, NOT JUST ANYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING.

THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS IN THERE.

SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE RELOOK AT THAT.

SO SAYS NO STUDENT SHALL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE SCHOOL PROGRAM OR THE CONFERENCE'S CURRICULUM WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE STUDENT'S PARENT OR GUARDIAN.

I STILL THINK WE WE SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED IN THERE RELATED TO

ACADEMIC INSTRUCTION. >> DO YOU SEE THAT?

>> SO COULD YOU. >> I JUST SENT YOU AN E-MAIL OF THE CHAIN TOO SO YOU GUYS ARE THAT.

>> COULD YOU READ WHAT YOU MIGHT PROPOSE?

>> THIS IS AN E-MAIL FROM SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT ON THE BOARD

SO -- >> CORRECT, BUT IT CAME TO ALL OF US AT THE BOARD AND I REREAD IT AND I LOOKED AT IT AND I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE COMMENT. SO I'M SUGGESTING THE SCHOOL BOARD RESPECTS THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF PARENTS AND THEIR CHILDREN, IN STUDENT SHALL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE SCHOOL PROGRAM -- THEN THE NEXT SENTENCE WOULD BE THAT IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO ACADEMIC INSTRUCTION OR THE CORPORATION'S CURRICULUM WITHOUT PRIOR WRITTEN CONSENT OF THE STUDENTS' PARENT OR GUARDIAN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

>> AND THE THAT'S IN THAT E-MAIL?

>> CORRECT. >> AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

AND I'M SAYING IT OUT LOUD IS SO THE MIGHT BE CAN HEAR THE PARAGRAPH AND THAT PARAGRAPH IS NOT MADE UP.

THAT'S WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL; SO I'M REPRESENTING THAT WE KEEP THAT PART OF THE PARAGRAPH IN OUR REVISION.

>> AS I RECALL -- I'LL GO BACK, IF I RECALL THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE DIFFERENCES TEEN THE STATE CODE AND THE FEDERAL LAW.

AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED BY ATTORNEYS AND ONE THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT OUR LANGUAGE MORE CLOSELY REFLECT FEDERAL LAW BECAUSE THAT'S REQUIRED AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THIS WAS CHAINED. THIS ALSO REFLECTED THE CODE

203517. >> ON THE TOP --

>> MM-HMM. SO EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THAT CODE WE HAVE TO FOLLOW. OUR POLICY CAN'T OVERSTEP ALLOGYRIC CORRECT. BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE'VE ALREADY HAD IT IN OUR POLICY SO I WAS JUST TRYING TO KEEP ONE

PART OF THE SENTENCE -- >> AND I DON'T KNOW IF OUR

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>> RIGHT. AND THAT'S THE POINT, THIS IS BEING UPDATED TO REFLECT LANGUAGE REQUIRED IN FEDERAL

LAW. >> AND MAYBE I JUST REQUEST THAT WE CAN ASK THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICER IF THAT WOULD BE EASTBOUND -- IF THE BOARD AGREED TO THAT, THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN STILL BE ADDED INTO THERE AND BE --

>> I THINK THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION IF WE WANT TO SEND THAT BACK TO OUR LAWYERS, SERGE GOING TO ADD ARE TO OUR COSTS BUT.

>> ASK THEM TO DO IT FOR FREE. >> .

>> YES,LY -- >> AND THIS IS THE FIRST READ SO

IT'S JUST INFORMATION. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YES, YOU'RE WELCOME. GYRE.

>> ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS?

>> MY QUESTION -- YEAH. THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS DOWN HERE IN THE -- I'LL SAY THE SECOND PARAGRAPH WHERE THE SUPERINTENDENT MAY ESTABLISH -- SHOULDN'T IT BE THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL ESTABLISH? MAY SOUNDS LIKE THEY MIGHT.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OPTIONAL BUT IF WE ARE -- I THINK SUSPECT THAT SOMETHING THE SUPERINTENDENT WILL ESTABLISH AND THEN THE PARENTS MAY INSPECT?

I DON'T KNOW. >> DIDN'T WE TALK ABOUT MAY AND WILL? I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

I APOLOGIZE. >> AND WE CAN REVISIT THAT TO DETERMINE IF SHOULD SAYMAY OR WILL.

AND DENISE CAN YOU CONFIRM, IS THE PARENT CONSENT FORM BEING UPDATED? IT'S IN THE PROCESS.

RIGHT. >>.

THANK YOU. >> WE'LL TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION: ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD IS IT.

>> INDEPENDENCE, I EVER ONE MORE QUESTION.

ANIMALS IN THE SCHOOL DOES THAT -- FISH TANKS DOES THAT COVER THAT? WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT DOGS AND MINIATURE HORSES PRETTY MUCH --

>> . >> INFOR I THINK FOR CRIBELLAR PROCESS

>>> THANK YOU FOR MAKING SENSE OF THIS.

I CAN'T IMAGINE HOW YOU DO IT ALL.

>> OKAY. >> THERE ARE SOME TEACHERS THAT JUST HAVE ANIMALS IN THE CLASSROOM ALL THE TIME.

SPIDERS, SNAKES, LIZARDED. I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE ARE ANIMALS OR NOT BUT IS THAT COVERED IN HERE?

>> THERE'S THE POLICY AND THEN THERE'S THE PROCEDURES.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROCEDURES FOR THAT FOR CLASSROOMS YOU'LL

FIND THAT IN PROCEDURES. >> PERFECT, THANK YOU.

>> OKAY. MS. FIELDS, SORRY ABOUT THAT

EARLIER. >> USUALLY I DON'T SPEAK TWICE BUT -- OKAY. RELATING TO CONSENT FOR PARTICIPATING, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE REVISED POLICY REQUIRE THAT ALL COMMUNINGS REGARDING STUDENT SURVEYS SHOULD PERMANENTLY INCLUDE NOTICE OF AN OPTION TO OPT OUT.

REGARDING ANRAMA SURVEY FOR STUDENTS PARENTS NEED TO DRILL DOWN TO KNOW THAT ONE THERE'S AN OPT OUT ON AND TWO A TIGHT DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING THE FORM.

THE OPTION TO OPT OUT WAS NOT CLEARLY COMMUNICATED IN THE BODY OF THE E-MAIL. MANY PARENTS MAY NOT KNOW THAT OPTING OUT IS AN OPTION. THE POLICY SHOULD SLATE THE PARENTAL OPTIONS NEED TO BE CLEARLY COMMUNICATED UP FRONT . . .

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>>> MIKE JAMESON. I'M SORRY I FORGOT TO REMIND THAT OUR TIMER THE DEEPING DOESN'T WORK BUT IF YOU NOTICED

IN YOUR -- >> I UNDERSTAND.

THANK YOU. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

SO SIMILAR TO MY FRIEND WHO WILL GO UNNAMED BECAUSE I CAN'T -- I'LL RESTATE THE POLICY HERE, SCHOOL BOARD RESPECTS THE PRIVACY RIGHTS OF CHILDREN . . .

AND I'LL JUST STATE THE FIRST FOUR HERE.

POLITICAL AFFILIATIONS OR BELIEFS OF THE STUDENT OR PARENTS OR GUARDIANS, MENTAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS OF THE STUDENT OR THEIR FAMILY. SENSE OF BEHAVIORS OR CONSTITUTEDS, ILLEGAL ANTISOCIAL SELF-INCRIMINATING OR DEMEANING BEHAVIOR. SO THE CONCERN I HAVE IS REGARDING THE PANORAMA SURVEY, SO THE CURRENT SCHOOL PROCEDURE FOR RANRAMA SURVEYS REQUIRES PARENTS TO OPT OUT IF THEY DO NOT WISH THEIR STUDENTS TO TAKE THE SURVEY.

SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO CREATE A PROBLEM BECAUSE AS -- THERE ARE THREE FREE RESPONSES -- QUESTIONS WITHIN THAT SURVEY THAT DIDN'T GET ENOUGH ATTENTION IN THE ZOOM MEETING WE HAD. SO ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS IS WHAT IS ONE THING YOU WISH YOUR TEACHER KNEW ABOUT YOU? SO THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH THAT IS STUDENTS ARE TOLD THAT THESE ARE ANONYMOUS RESPONSES, AND THEY'RE NOT TIED TO THE STUDENT, HOWEVER THERE'S A SCHOOL NUMBER THERE, SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WHERE DOES -- WHO READS THOSE RESPONSE S AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE DANGEROUS RESPONSES THAT COULD HAPPEN.

SO IF A CHILD, IF A STUDENT RESPONDS WITH ILLEGAL ACTIVITY OR IF THEY REVEAL SEXUAL INFORMATION ABOUT THEMSELVES, HOW'S THAT -- WHO SEES THAT INFORMATION? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE A VIOLATION OF THIS POLICY IF WE DON'T HAVE SOME WAY TO SENSOR THAT.

AND I DIDN'T GET -- I ASKED THAT QUESTION, ACTUALLY ASKED QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT THAT QUESTION WAS NOT ANSWERED IN THE ZOOM CALL THAT WE HAD. SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER NOT DOING THE PANORAMA SURVEY BUT IF WE DO THEY OUGHT TO BE AN OPT IN RATHER THAN OPT OUT TO AVOID THAT POTENTIAL CON

FLICK CONFLICT THERE. >> THANK YOU.

DIANE EATON. >>> THANK YOU AGAIN, I'M HERE TO

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AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, ONE ON THE FIRST PARAGRAPH IT SAYS THAT THE PRICK -- CURRICULUM IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED . . . I WANTED TO KNOW IF THE BOARD WOULD HAVE INPUT ON THAT IN THE MORNING OF HOW THAT LOOKED BECAUSE WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD WE DID HAVE PARENT COMMITTEES AND WE DID LOOK A BOOK COMMITTEES AND A VARIETY OF COMMITTEES AND WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING AT DR. EXTENSION THAT BE IN ACADEMICS FOR A LONG TIME, IF YOU WERE GOING TO BE CONSIDERED OTHER WAYS OTHER SCHOOLS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE THAT IN A CONVERSATION. SO I JUST URGE YOU TO LOOK AT WHAT BEST PRACTICES ARE AS YOU BEGIN TO LOOK AT THOSE PROCEDURES ON THAT. AND THEN I KNOW THAT YOU'LL BE POSTING THOSE ATTACHED TO THAT SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THOSE WILL BE ATTACHED. BUT IF YOU WOULD BEGIN TO LOOK AT THIS, PRACTICES -- THINGS HAVE CHANGED WITH SO MUCH DIGITAL INSTRUCTION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEW BEST PRACTICE IS. THERE IS A TREND AT LEAST NATIONALLY TO NOT INCLUDE PARENTS BUT I THINK YOU CAN SEE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS WEATHER WO BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS IN A CIVILIZED WAY AND THERE THEREFOE WISH YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE BEST PRACTICES. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, IT DOES STRIKE ME THE NEXT SENTENCE, THE CURRICULUM MUST BE AT A MINIMUM. WE'RE ASKING FOR HACKIC EXCELLENCE. OUR STANDARDS ARE GOING DOING FOR WHATEVER REASON, TEST SCORE AND CHANGES IN CRIB LUMP CURRICM SO IF YOUR COULD RELOOK AT THAT AND SAY WE REALLY WANT TO MEET MORE THAN MINIMUM STANDARDS HERE.

I THINK OUR COMMUNITY WOULD EXPECT A HIGHER FOCUS THAN THAT.

AND SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO REEVALUATE THAT.

AND THEN LASTLY THE LAST SENTENCE ON THAT IS THE SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT DOES AND WILL PERIODICALLY REPORT TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE ONGOING ASSESSMENTS SO MY QUESTION IS TO LOOK AT URGING ONE OF YOUR -- ON CURRICULUM AND I WOULD URGE YOU TO LOOK AT MORE OF A FREQUENCY LIKE MAYBE TWICE A YEAR AND THAT THOSE ARE REPORTS YOU ON A REGULAR BASIS.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET TOO FAR BEHIND ON LOOKING AT YOUR CURRICULUM, I KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO THEN MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENT PLANS SO THE MORE OFTEN THAT YOU CAN DO THAT I WOULD URGE THE BOARD TO STRIKE PERIODICALLY AND PUT IN MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE TWICE A YEAR. SO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THIS POLICY AND HELPING IT GROW SO THAT ACADEMIC SCORES CONTINUE TO

GROW. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU AT THE S&P BOARD MEETING I COMMENTED ON DEFIXERS ON I-0 FIRE .02.

TO A KEY DID I EFFICIENCY STILL DIFFERENCES IN THE REWRITE.

THERE ARE SELF-OPEN-ENDED STATEMENTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND DEFINED. BRAD MENTIONED ONE OF THEM.

SUPERINTENDENT MAY ESTABLISH PROCEDURES.

THAT NEED TO BE WILL. AND THE PROCEDURES NEED TO BE PART OF THIS POLICY. OTHERWISE IT COULD BECOME A DELAY TACKIC TO PREVENT PARENTS GETTING ACCESS SINCE THE FIRST EXCUSE WILL BE THERE'S EC PROCEDURE.

I MEAN, YOUR PERCENTAGE AND YOUR TEACHER ARE NOT GOING TO SOMETHING THEY DONE KNOW IF THE SUPERINTENDENT AGREES WITH SO THAT SHOULD -- THERE SHOULD BE A POLICY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCEDURE ACCESS IS NOT AN EMPTY PROMISE.

THE NEXT ONE, A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME.

THIS MUST BE DEFINED FOR BOTH CASES.

THE MATERIALS ARE READILY AVAILABLE, SO THE POLICIES SHOULD SET A SPECIFIC TOMB 24 HOURS AFTER REQUEST OR SET A NOT LATER THAN TIME SUCH AS X WORKING DAYS.

PARTICULARLY FOR INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS DELAYS MEAN STUDENTS ARE BEING EXPOSED TO MATERIALS THAT PARENTS MAY NOT DEEM APPROPRIATE FOR THEIR CHILDREN. THE OVERALL POLICY IS AN OPT IN POLICY FOR THE AREAS LISTED IN ITEMS A THROUGH H.

THIS POLICY MAY CONFLICT WITH THE PANORAMA SURVEY

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THE ARGUMENT COULD BE MADE THAT THE PANORAMA SURVEY OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS ASKING FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGES FROM THE STUDENTS COULD HAVE THE COMMENT MAKING STATEMENTS ABOUT SEX BEHAVIOR, MENTAL ISSUES, RELIGIOUS OR POLITICAL BELIEFS OF THEIR FAMILY WHICH REQUIRE AN OPT IN UNDER 5.02.

EQUIPMENTLY THE RANRAMA SURVEY PARTICIPATION SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AN OPT IN PROGRAM AND THE HC SHOULD AMEND THEIR STATES TO PARENTS ON PARTICIPATION IN THE HANDRAMA PANORAMA SURVEY.

>> MARTY WOOD. >> SITTING TOO LONG.

BY THE WAY I WAS ALSO WRITING DOWN A COMMENT ON TEN -- 00 AND SOMEBODY SWITCHED OUT THE SHEETS AND I DIDN'T GET TO WRITE THAT ONE DOWN. I APPRECIATE YOU CITING THE LEGAL CODE. I WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO TODD OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL CITED A NUMBER OF CODES IN THAT SECTION REGARDING PARENTAL RIGHTS AND SPECIFICALLY IN I SAIDC 20-35-17, AND THIS CLEARS UP SOFT ISSUES THAT I THINK HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT IT SAYS IN REFERENCE TO CURRICULUM ECTOCURRICULUM NOT ALIGNING CAN INDIANA ACADEMIC STANDARDS WHICH IS REFERRING TO THIRD PARTY CURRICULUM, PARENTAL CONSENT IS REQUIRED. SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF ONLYING IN OUR OUT. IT'S REQUIRED SO I THINK YOU NEED TO ADDRESS PATCHY DRIZZLE . . .

>>> THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY DISMAYED BY THE LACK OF EDUCATION THE STUDENTS ARE GETTING ON THE CONSTITUTION AS REPRESENTED BY CONSTITUTION DAY.

THERE WAS ALMOST NOTHING TAUGHT ON CONSTITUTION DAY.

SO TO GET THE RESAUSAGE BY CITATION OF THAT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TAUGHT I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TEACH WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE LAW. IT MAY ALSO BE APPROPRIATE TO ADD IC 5-14-3-1. THIS IS A PUBLIC RECORDS ACT.

IT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES TRANSPARENCY.

AND THE SCHOOL, HFC LASS A STATUTORY RESPONSIBILITY TO

DETERMINE -- >> SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU. >> I'M GOING TO TAKE SOME MORE TIME HERE. TO DETERMINE --

>> THIS IS NOT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT AND YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> YOU YOU EVERN'T CUT ANYBODY E OFF AND THEY'VE GONE OVER THE

TIME. >> ACTUALLY YOU'RE 40 SECS OVER:

I LET MRS. EATON -- >> IF YOU WANT TO CUT ME OFF CUT ME OFF. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO SPEAK.

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>> SIR, WE NEED TO FINISH OUR MEETING --

>> .

>>> PLEASE I WONDER IF WE CAN STRIKE AT A MINIMUM THE CURRICULUM MUST, COLON, COMPLY WITH PUBLIC LAW.

THAT WOULD BE ANY DISCUSSION FOR CHANGING THAT.

BECAUSE AT A MINIMUM DOES SOUND LIKE WE'RE DOING THE LEAST

AMOUNT POSSIBLE. >> SO WITH A PARAGRAPH IS THAT

IN AGAIN? >> THIS IS I ZERO 01 -- AT THE END OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH. CURRICULUM MUST AT A MINIMUM.

IF WE JUST STRIKE THE CURRICULUM MUST AND STRIKE AT A MINIMUM AND

PUT THE TWO -- >> PROBLEM WITH THAT IS IT'S ACTUALLY MORE LIMITING BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IT MUST DO THIS, AND THAT'S IT. THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN THIS IS THE BASELINE LAW SAYS WE HAVE TO DO THIS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE POLICY THAT SAYS WE'RE NOT DOING 100 TIMES MORE BUT --

>> IT JUST SAYS IT MUST DO THIS AND SOMEBODY CAN THEN SAY THAT'S ALL -- THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO DO. THAT'S WHAT IT MUST DO BUT AT MINIMUM IT'S SAYING THIS IS THE BASE AND THEN THROUGH OUR CULTURE AND OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ACADEMICS WE'RE CLEARLY

GOING TO DO MORE. >> AND I --

>> THAT'S JUST -- YOU GUYS MAY DISAGREE WITH ME AND THAT'S

FAIR. >> THERE'S TWO SIDES TO THAT.

YOU READ THAT AND YOU THINK ABOUT -- YOU HEAR MINIMUM AND WE DON'T LIKE TO DO ANYTHING TO THE MINIMUM BUT YET YOU HEAR IT SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BUT I HEAR WHAT WAS SAID ALSO DURING MIGHT BE COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT OR NOT. BUT WE MIGHT THINK ABOUT IT.

I WOULD JUST SAY THINK ABOUT IT. THERE MAY BE A BETTER WAY TO WORD THAT, THERE MAY NOT BE A BETTER WAY TO WORD THAT.

BUT LET'S CONSIDER IT. >> I ALSO WANTED TO BRING UP WHERE IT SAYS REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME.

AS A SUGGESTION SAY MAYBE TWO BIDS DAYS.

>> THAT'S NOT REASONABLE. >> DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION THAT'S BEING REQUESTED ASK THE MANPOWER THAT IT TAKES AND THE FACT WE MAY HAVE TO SECOND IT TO A LAWYER THAT WE CAN'T PROMISE A 24 HOUR TURN AROUND.

>> IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

>> HOW LARGE IS THE REQUEST.

WHAT ARE THEY REQUESTING. WHERE IS IT.

I WISH WE COULD SAY THAT. >> I WAS TRYING TO THINK THE THERE WAS SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN THERE -- BECAUSE AS I SPEAKS, A RES GESTAE AMOUNT OF TIME TO YOU AND A RES RES RES REASONABLT OPHITISM TO ME COULD BE DIFFERENT, SO AN ANSWER OF SOME SORT IS WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO AT LEAST ADDRESS IT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE CONCLUSION BUT WE WOULD HAVE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE SITUATION WITHIN A --

>> WOULD IT BE SOMETHING WHERE THEY RESPOND TO THE REQUEST WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, NOT NECESSARILY GET THEM EVERYTHING THEY NEED BUT LET THEM KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON

THIS. >> MAYBE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THAT AND WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER -- MANY TIMES, DID THEY HEAR FROM US IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS, IS IT DONE YET.

>> I DO THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IF TIGHTENING THAT UP.

DEADLINE ALWAYS TEND TO DRIVE ACTION.

>> AND THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A GREAT RULE TO PONDER FOR THE PROCEDURES THE SUPERINTENDENT HAS TO DEVELOP.

>> THE STATEMENT DOES SAY MAY ESTABLISH PROCEDURES SO IF WE CHAIN THAT TO WILL ESTABLISH PROCEDURES WE WOULD BE GUARANTEED WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE.

BECAUSE WHAT'S REASONABLE COULD CHANGE OVER YEARS.

I MEAN DEPENDING ON HOW THE DEMOCRATIC CHANGES BUT I THINK A RESPONSE OF I HEAR YOU, WE'RE WORKING ON IT AND WITHIN A WEEK

OR WITHIN FIVE SCHOOL DAYS. >> I GUESS I ASSUME THAT'S

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HAPPENING IN MOST CASES. >> WELL, BUT WE DON'T KNOW --

SIMULTANEOUSLY.) >> THEY MAY NOT GET THE ANSWER THEY WANT IN THE TIME THEY WANT DO YOU --

>> I THINK WHAT MICHELLE IS SAYING IS THAT MAYBE WE PONDER AND THIS AND COME UP WITH APP OPTION BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT THE SITUATION HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE CONCLUSION BUT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE BEING NAÏVE BUT IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN THAT WE HAVE AN ANSWER AND AS BRAD SAID HAVING SOME TYPE OF DEADLINE DOES SPARK PEOPLE TO GET THE JOB DONE.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO, THERE'S SEVEN OF US WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS AND COMMUNICATE THAT BEFORE THE NEXT READ.

>> OKAY, ANY MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BY THE BOARD?

>> THE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE AND I HAVE NOT LOOKED BUT THERE WAS A COMMENT MADE ABOUT INDIANA CODE 203517 WHERE PARENTAL CONSENT IS REQUIRED. AND WE CITE THAT ON IN I 05.02.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO INCORPORATE INTO THIS

ABOUT -- >> I THINK THAT GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING EARLIER SO THERE WAS THE INDIANA CODE AND THEN THERE'S FEDERAL LAW. FEDERAL LAW IS WHAT REQUIRES US TO HAVE THIS POLICY. SO OUR POLICY IS REFLECTING THE LANGUAGE FROM FEDERAL LAW. WE STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW INDIANA LAW BUT FEDERAL LAW IS GOING TO TRUMP THAT SO IF THE FEDERAL LAW IS SAYING WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS POLICY THEN OUR LANGUAGE IS

TRACKING THAT. >> SO CAN INDIANA CODE BE MORE

RESTRICTIVE THAN FEDERAL CODE? >> IN THIS CASE THE FEDERAL LAW IS WHAT REQUIRES -- IT'S MINE FROM OUR POLICY DISCUSSIONS AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM OUR O LAWYERS THE FEDERAL LAW THAT REQUIRE THIS POLICY. WE STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW INDIANA LAW EVEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A POLICY, IF THERE'S A LAW WE'RE STILL REQUIRED TO FOLLOW ANY LAWS CREATED TO RESTRICT

WHATEVER WE CAN DO, BUT -- >> SO IF THERE'S -- SO I GUESS MY -- I GUESS THINKING OUT LOUD HERE, AT WORK WE CALL THAT SPIT BALLING, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A GOOD WORD OR NOT BUT I'M THINKING OUT LOUD IF FEDERAL LAW REQUIRES THIS POLICY BUT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW INDIANA LAW AND IF 20- 30-5-13 REQUIRES PARENTAL CONTINUE THEN WHERE DOES THAT COME IN AND HOW DO WE BALANCE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT IT IS BARITE LET'S SAY THAT IT IS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE BALANCE THAT

WITH WHAT IS WRITTEN HERE. >> WE'RE HAVING A MEETING, CAN YOU PLEASE QUIET IN THE AUDIENCE?

>> THANK YOU.

>> I DON'T KNOW, I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS --

>> THERE'S ANOTHER READING OF THIS AND WE'LL DIG INTO THAT.

>> WE CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND BRING

IT -- >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION, BRAD TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT AM IS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IT EITHER SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO ASK OUR ATTORNEYS AND FIND OUT WHAT THAT CLARITY IS.

>> WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, BRAD?

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT -- >> MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT --

>> 5.02. I DON'T KNOW HOW THESE -- I GUESS I DON'T EXACTLY NOW HOW THESE DOVETAIL TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH CURRICULUM. SOL THEY ARE BOTH IN THE CURRICULUM SOUTH CAROLINA, SESSION, AND OF BOTH OF THEM REFERENCE INDIANA CODE 20- 30.

>>> SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THOSE WORK TOGETHER.

IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE ONE IS GOING TO BE A SUBSET INCLUDED IN THE OTHER BUT I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT BECAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE MORE CONFUSING. IT'S FOUR PAGES LONG INSTEAD OF

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>> DO THEY SEEM LIKE THEY CONTRADICT EACH OTHER?

>> WELL, IF -- AND I GUESS I'M ONLY SAYING THE PERCEPTION IS THERE'S AN OPT IN OR AN OPT OUT. THERE'S TWO OPTIONS AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN OPT OUT OPTION. IF PARENTAL CONSENT IS REQUIRED AND WE ARE DOING AN OPT OUT OPTION IT FEELS AS THOUGH THAT'S A LITTLE BIT IN CONFLICT BECAUSE IT FILES LIKE IT SHOULD BE AN

OPT IN. >> SO IF THE CODE IS STAYING THE SAME THAT IT COULD BE PARENTAL REQUIREMENT YOU'RE SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF BEING AN OPT OUT IT SHOULD BE AN OPT?

: I AGREE WITH THAT. >> BECAUSE I -- I DON'T KNOW, I JUST FEEL LIKE IT HAS TO BE SOME ACTION TAKEN RATHER THAN ACTION

MISSED. >> SO MAYBE WHAT WE CAN DO TO CONCLUDE THIS CONVERSATION AND HELP IS BRING THAT FORWARD TO SEE IF IT -- IF I SHOULD BE IT SHOULD BE MORE OF AN OPT IN INSTEAD OF OPT OUT AND GET THAT CODE CLARIFIED ON OUR INDIANA CODE. ISN'T THAT CORRECT.

>> SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE INDIANA CODE AND THE U.S. CODE THEY MIRROR EACH OTHER. IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME LANGUAGE BUT IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME BUT THEY BOTH REQUIRE PARENTAL CONSENT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SURVEY THAT REVEALS THOSE THIS IS THAT ARE LIST INSIDE THERE.

>> OKAY. >> BUT ARE WE SURVEYING ABOUT

THOSE THINGS? >> NO.

WELL, I GUESS THAT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU INTERPRET THE QUESTIONS.

>> THAT'S HOW YOU INTERN THE QUESTIONS, SO MY WHOLE THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT IF YOU -- LET'S JUST TAKE OUT THE AMBIGUITY. SO IF WE -- IF IT COULD BE INTERPRETED THAT WAY LET'S NOT DO IT.

BECAUSE WE WE AREN'T TRYING TO PURPOSELY GAIN THAT INFORMATION SO SINCE WE AREN'T PURPOSELY TRYING TO DO IT WE DON'T HAVE ANY HIDDEN AGENDA SO LET'S REQUIRE AN OPT IN RATHER THAN OPT OUT BECAUSE NOW THE PARENTS HAVE TO TAKE SOME SPECIFIC ACTION AND THAT MIGHT DRIVE THEM TO GET MORE ENGAGED AND THINK ABOUT IT. I DON'T KNOW, IF WE'RE TRYING THE HIDE -- IF WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT -- OR IS QUESTIONABLE THEN OPTING OUT IS THE EASY THING.

IF WE'RE JUST -- HERE'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND JUST HAVE EVERYBODY OPT IN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I -- I DON'T KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THERE WAS EARLIER DISCUSSION, IT'S SIMILAR BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT WHERE YOU KNOW, I THINK AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL THERE'S AN OPTION TO OPT OUT OR HAVE YOUR CHILD GO TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE FCL TRAINING.

THAT IS -- IT DOESN'T HARM ANYTHING IN HAVING THEM GO DO SOMETHING ELSE, I JUST GIVES THEM AN OPTION AND HERE INSTEAD OF TRYING THE RUN THE SPECULATION THAT WE'RE COLLECTING SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WONDER WHY WE'RE COLLECTING IT LET'S NOT EVEN HAVE THAT IN HERE, LET'S JUST SAY OPT IN IF

YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO TAKE IT. >> WE'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION SO OUR INSTRUCTION IS BETTER, REACHES MORE CHILDREN AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT OPT OUT THE LESS VALIDITY OF THE DATA.

>> . >> IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE THE CLARITY FIRST ON WHAT IT IS AND SECOND, AND THE START OF EVERY YEAR AND THIS COULD BE THE PROCEDURES THEN THAT IS DONE WITH THE SCHOOL AND THEN DO THAT ON THEIR OWN AND I KNOW THE START OF EVERY YEAR WE HAVE A PLACE TO FILL OUT FORMS THAT WE CAN HAVE THERE, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN WORK ON THAT PARENTS CAN OPT IF FOR THE SURVEY OF THE YEAR AND DO IT AT THAT POINT SO THEY KNOW IF THEIR

CHILD WILL BE DOING THE SURVEYS. >> AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHEN WE HEAR ALL THESE SURVEY I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SPECIFICALLY A PANORAMA SURVEY.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY APPROPRIATED FROM THE LILY GRANT AND THE LILY GRANT IS PROVIDING THE COST TO DO THE SURVEYS I DON'T WANT TO BILL A POLICY AROUND A POLICY AROUND A

[02:25:04]

>> BUT EVEN IF THAT ONE GOES AWAY WE HAVE TO MAKE A POLICY SO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO PROTECT OUR PARENTS AND PROTECT OUR ADMINISTRATION GOING FORWARD.

WE DON'T CHANGE THE POLICY EVERY YEAR SO IF WE DO PUT IN IN PLACE WE NEED TO PUTS THAT IN PLACE AND THEN LET THE ADMINISTRATION WORK ON THE PROCEDURE MOVING FORWARD.

>> THAT'S PERFECT. >> I KNOW WE'RE TRYING THE COMBINE POLICYIES BUT TO ME IT'S KIND OF A STRETCH TO PUT BOTH OF THESE -- THE CONSENT FOR PARTICIPATION ON THE SAME ONE OF

PARENTS ACCESSING MATERIAL. >> IT'S ALL CONNECTED BECAUSE THE CODE COMBINES THEM. YOU CAN'T SURVEY THIS WITHOUT -- AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SURVEY MATERIALS AND YOU HAVE TO -- AND YOU MAY CREATE THESE PROCEDURES FOR THEY CAN INFORMANT INFORMANT THE --

>>> OKAY. SO YOU'RE ALMOST SUGGESTING

SPLIT THEM? >> YES, BUT IN THE INTERESTS OF NOT HAVING 100 EXTRA POLICIES. I GET WHY YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO BUT I DON'T THINK THESE EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE WRITTEN IN THE SAME CODE I DO THINK THESE ARE KIND OF SEPARATE ISSUES.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT?

>> I THINK WE NEED TO COMBINE THEM.

I THINK THAT IT'S I TO FIND WHEN YOU SEARCH SKIT TRYING THE MAKE

THINGS MORE STREAMLINED. >> AND IF THEY ARE COMBINED WE WILL CONFIRM THE CODE AND MORE SO THAT IT'S ON OPT IN INSTEAD OF ON OPT OUT SITUATION, CORRECT?

>> I'M NOT SURE, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, BUT --

>> OPT IN INSTEAD OF AN OPT OUT. WHEN YOUWHETHER YOU HAVE OPT OUE

PREY WHO ARE INTERESTED IN OPT? >> THEN YOU'RE NOT COLLECT DIAGNOSE DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO COLLECT.

>> IT WON'T BE STATISTICALLY -- >> INTEREST A CLASSROOM TEACHER PERSPECTIVE OPT IN POLICIES ARE OPT IN THAT YOU DON'T GET THE PARTICIPATION IN ANYTHING AS MUCH AS AN OPT OUT.

>> SO I THINK POLICY COMMITTEE HAS SOME THINGS TO PONDER HERE AND WE CAN MOVE ON FROM THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG. THIS JUST MADE UP FOR ALL THE MEETINGS THAT WE GOT OUT IN 40 MINUTES.

[7. Superintendent's Report]

>> I SUPPOSE SO. ALL RIGHT.

DR. STOKES, YOU'RE UP FOR THE MATTERS OF CORPORATION INTEREST.

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>> I WILL BE SHORT AND SWEET. AND SAY THAT JUST A REMINDER THAT WE WILL BE HAVING FALL BREAK STARTING MONDAY, SO I JUST WANT TO THANK OUR FAMILIES AS ALWAYS, THE COMMUNITY, OUR TEACHERS, OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF THANK YOU FOR THE FIRST NINE WEEKS OF WONDER AND ENJOY, RELAX AND DO SOMETHING THAT IS INSPIRING ON YOUR WEEK OFF. SO PARENTS DON'T SEND YOUR STUDENTS TO SCHOOL ON MONDAY AND I WANT TO ONCE AGAIN CONGRATULATE THORPE CREEK FOR THEIR ACADEMIC SUCCESS AND WE WILL ALL AS A DISTRICT MOVE THAT DIRECTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. DRAFT AGENDA FOR NEXT TIME.

SO IT IS INTERESTING THAT WE CONTINUE TOSS TO SEE THE DIRECT RICK BUS. LOOK AT THE SIX ACTION ITEMMINGS WE DO HAVE OUR DENTALTIVE DIRECT RICK BUS AND WE'RE SAYING TENTATIVE BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING IT IS OURS WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE OFFICIAL PAPERWORK, SO WE'RE WEIGHTING ON THE AWARD GRANT LETTER SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THIS FROM TIME TO TIME OP OUR DRAFT BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE THE CUT FOR THE ACTUAL MEETING. KATIE WILL BE BACK AGAIN FOR ACTION ITEMS ON THE BUDGET, ADOPTING THE BUDGET, CAPITAL PROJECTS FUNDS AND THE BUS REPLACEMENT PLAN.

AND THE ONLY OTHER THING IS WE WILL HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT REDRAWING THE BOUNDARY LINES AND I THINK PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING

ELSE IS SELF-EXPLANATORY. >> DR. STOKES FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TRYING TO BE POSITIVE AND WORKS IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION, THE GOVERNOR EXTENDED OUR COVID STILL BEING UNDER THE UMBRELLA, CAN YOU GIVE SOME HOPE TO OUR COMMUNITY OF WHAT WE'RE LOOING FOR AND STRIVING FOR TO GET US BACK TO NORMAL? CAN YOU UPDATE US ON WHAT OUR PLAN IS MOVING FORWARD?

>> FOR MASKS? >> FOR MASKS AND SOME NORMALCY IN THE SCHOOL. WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? I KNOW FROM OUR CONVERSATION BUT CAN YOU REITERATE IT FOR THE

PUBLIC? >> SO YOU KNOW I GIVE AN ACRONYM AND SAY THAT OUR GOAL IS SI S, STUDENTS IN SCHOOL.

AND RIGHT NOW BASED ON INFORMATION FROM OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENTS AND THE REQUIREMENTS WITH CONTACT TRACING AND BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS GAVE US RIGHT NOW THE REASON WE ARE WEARING MASKS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR SOUPS STUDENTS NORTH TO KEEP STUDENTS IN SCHOOL YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THESE FACTORS. ONE IS THAT IF STUDENTS HAVE ON MASKS, WE CAN CONTACT TRACE AT THREE FEE VERSUS SIX FEET, WHICH MEANS WE CAN KEEP MORE STUDENTS IN SCHOOL.

IF WE WEAR A MASK AND A STUDENT IS POSITIVE WE CAN HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARE ASYMPTOMATIC REMAIN IN SCHOOL AND STUDENTS WHO DO GO HOME FOR QUARANTINING PURPOSES THEY CAN COME BACK POSSIBLY AFTER SEVEN DAYS OR TEN DAYS VERSUS THE 14 DAYS.

SO IF WE WEAR A MASK ESSENTIALLY WE CAN KEEP MORE OF OUR STUDENTS IN SCHOOL AND WE CAN KEEP STUDENTS WHO DO HAVE TO LEAVE CAN COME BACK SOONER, SO WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS AT THE FOREFRONT AND THE FACT THAT WE LEGALLY HAVE TO CONTACT TRACE WE ARE WEARING MASKS BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO KEEP OUR INSTITUTE ASSUMES IN SCHOOL. AND THAT IS OUR GOAL.

WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE STUDENTS, THE SUPERINTENDENT STUDENT VOYEUR ADVISORY GROUP THEY WANT TO BE IN SCHOOL SO OUR GOAL IS

TO KEEP THEM IN SCHOOL. >> SO IT WOULD BE THE INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH OR THE GOVERNOR UNTIL THEY CHANGE THOSE

RESTRICTIONS. >> RIGHT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CANT TRACE. WITH CONTACT TRACING WE'RE AT SIX FEET YOU'RE KNOCKING OUT A LOT OF KIDS AND WITHOUT THE MASK YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO GO HOME. SO WITH MASKS IF YOU'RE ASYMPTOMATIC YOU CAN STAY IN SCHOOL.

BUT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I HAVE HEAR WHAT YOU SAID BUT I WAS

[02:35:01]

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY, TRANSMISSION RATES.

WE HAVE OUR INTERNAL DASHBOARD, WE HAVE THE DASHBOARD THAT WE SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT ANYBODY CAN GET ON AND FOLLOW WITH US. SO AS YOU KNOW WHEN WE MAID THE MAGSING MANDATE AND WE TIPPED AND PLATEAUS AND THEN WE CAPE CAME DOWN AND THAT MEANT KIDS IN SCHOOL IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING

AT. >> THANK THANK YOU YOUR UPDATE.

[8. Board Members Reports]

>> THERE ARE NO BOARD MEMBER ERRORS SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> MOVE TO ADJOURN.

>> WE'RE

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